<!--QuoteBegin--Twex+Sep 3 2003, 10:32 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Twex @ Sep 3 2003, 10:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The UN, a child of the early Cold War, was never intended for this kind of situation. It lacks an independent army, a strong, base-democratically founded executive arm, and most importantly, it lacks the funding necessary to do policing missions. Thus, there is as of now no, no power on Earth that could even hope to carry such missions out with a chance of success. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So what are we to do?
You correctly assert that the global situation resembles lawless anarchy. Will we succumb to this anarchy in fatalism, grabbing loot where we can, or will we put our trust in an actor whose motives are, although imperfect and somewhat selfish, at least not totally corrupted and destructive?
Of course a lawful and strong world government would be the ideal solution. But as long as none is in sight, we have to participate in a somewhat shady vigilantism, because letting the criminals rule is even <i>less</i> desirable.
The USA are no policeman, but they're no common thug either. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You describe my notion as "fatalism" and fall into what could be described as 'blind actionism' at the same time.
The matter of fact is that we know no effective way of 'policing' the world as of now, indeed, most attempts even created worse situations than those they were to stop. Thus, every action of unasked intervention into internal affairs of another country we undertake based on the practices of today is irresponsible. This does not have to result in fatalist apathy, it just shows that we need to develop a different way of approaching injustices in the world. How does that new way look? I honestly do not know, but the absence of a valid solution does not justify the use of an invalid one, it only shows the necessity of development on this area.
Jammer, try as I might, I can find very little US-bashing in here.
All in the subtext. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Maybe I was a little over zealous in my search.
Hey, some jerk threw the fire alarm in my dorm this morning. I was tired and stressed when I wrote that.
<!--QuoteBegin--Z.X. Bogglesteinsky+Sep 2 2003, 11:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Z.X. Bogglesteinsky @ Sep 2 2003, 11:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A and B dont like what C is doing? who cares? its C's country. he can run it how he wants <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not if it's at the expense of his people.
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So what are we to do?
You correctly assert that the global situation resembles lawless anarchy. Will we succumb to this anarchy in fatalism, grabbing loot where we can, or will we put our trust in an actor whose motives are, although imperfect and somewhat selfish, at least not totally corrupted and destructive?
Of course a lawful and strong world government would be the ideal solution. But as long as none is in sight, we have to participate in a somewhat shady vigilantism, because letting the criminals rule is even <i>less</i> desirable.
The USA are no policeman, but they're no common thug either. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You describe my notion as "fatalism" and fall into what could be described as 'blind actionism' at the same time.
The matter of fact is that we know no effective way of 'policing' the world as of now, indeed, most attempts even created worse situations than those they were to stop. Thus, every action of unasked intervention into internal affairs of another country we undertake based on the practices of today is irresponsible.
This does not have to result in fatalist apathy, it just shows that we need to develop a different way of approaching injustices in the world. How does that new way look? I honestly do not know, but the absence of a valid solution does not justify the use of an invalid one, it only shows the necessity of development on this area.
Jammer, try as I might, I can find very little US-bashing in here.
All in the subtext. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Maybe I was a little over zealous in my search.
Hey, some jerk threw the fire alarm in my dorm this morning. I was tired and stressed when I wrote that.
Not if it's at the expense of his people.