A Poll That Might Be More Precise.

FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
edited September 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Suggestion for Flayra</div> Poll Options.

1) Close to Balance (But Marines are slightly stonger)
2) Close to Balance (But Aliens are slghtly stronger)
3) Marines Overpowered
4) Aliens Overpowered

Because I feel NS is 60/40 but ever so slightly toward the alien side.

Just a suggestion to see what others think.

[edit]Just wanted to mention this is regarding the poll Flay but up in the Beta Forums. Thanks revenge <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->.[/edit]

Comments

  • LeetLlamaLeetLlama Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20260Members
    I think it does not matter what I, or anyone else thinks, balace is not a state of mind. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GrimmGrimm Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15448Members
    Wow, its been how long since the release of v2.0? And the people are still complaining about 'balance'...

    You'd think the people would learn to play the game as it is... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    I vote for 5) Marines and aliens kill each other 50/50.
  • SalamanSalaman Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9711Members
    Depends on the version, I consider 2.0 to be in favor of aliens, while 2.01d is decently balanced.
  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    1) Marines are overpowered
    2) Kharaa are overpowered

    That's the best poll. Soon as it's equal you know your game is balanced. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    Oh and of course...

    5) Perfectly Balanced.

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    My only real concern now is the early advanced evos, (Pubs - Fades @ 5-8 mins/Onos @ 9-12 mins) and even earlier in clan matches and scrims. That is where I think the aliens have a slight advantage in Pubs and Scrims between evenly matched teams. Like I said 40/60 close but need a little more tweakage.

    It has been really cool seeing the evolution in the gameplay from beta-to-beta.

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RokiyoRokiyo A.K.A. .::FeX::. Revenge Join Date: 2002-10-10 Member: 1471Members, Constellation
    You probably should have mentioned that you are talking about Flayra's poll in the beta forums, and NOT making any sort of balance rant, complaint or suggestion yourself.
  • XiileXiile Join Date: 2003-02-22 Member: 13818Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Hawkeye+Sep 11 2003, 06:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hawkeye @ Sep 11 2003, 06:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I vote for 5) Marines and aliens kill each other 50/50. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed. Its a perfect 50|50 split in 2.01e. Go! Play it now! Or ill bite your ear! Er, you didnt hear that.
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    I believe the scales should be slightly tilted in the favor of Aliens in pub play, and slightly toward Marines in clan play. Which I think it is in either 2.01d or 2.01e.
  • TheDestroyerTheDestroyer Tooobah Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18123Members, Constellation
    Balance...pfft, you don't need balance.


    Its what makes the games interesting and more realistic, the lack of balance.

    Plus, if your a clannie, 30-40 minutes, is it? I can hold out longer than that with some res nodes.

    Just depends on your team, not the balance issues.
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    edited September 2003
    omg i hate these kinda posts, dont u think flayra alrdy knows that aliens win a bit too much???
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    edited September 2003
    People.

    This is a post in response to an actual POLL that Flayra put up in the beta forums.

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=31&t=46778' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...ST&f=31&t=46778</a>

    My thought is he created this poll to gauge how the community feels about the balance 2.01d. I <b>am not</b> making a particular effort to point out anything is inbalanced and I <b>am not</b> complaining about the balance. I am just suggesting that Flay added an option to say:

    1) Close to Balance (But Marines are slightly stonger)
    2) Close to Balance (But Aliens are slghtly stronger)

    Because I have talked to many people online who thinks the game is very close to balanced except for a slight advantage on the alien side. If this is the case I think Flay should know that and when he goes about tweaking for 2.1 or another 2.01x patch he can modify accordingly. A more precise poll will allow him to gauge how many other people think the balance is close and which side is still slightly more powerful.

    Am I not being clear or is nobody really reading what I posted... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Fantasmo+Sep 11 2003, 10:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fantasmo @ Sep 11 2003, 10:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Because I have talked to many people online who thinks the game is very close to balanced except for a slight advantage on the alien side. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If they're at an advantage only in pubs (slightly), I think it's good, that's how NS can stay unique.
  • ZERGZERG Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13132Members, Constellation
    Ahh stop nitpicking Fantasmo... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Maybe he can do that later. I bet he just whipped that poll up in a matter of seconds cause he was curious.

    I want to know is who actually thinks marines are dominant. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pjofsky+Sep 12 2003, 01:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pjofsky @ Sep 12 2003, 01:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Fantasmo+Sep 11 2003, 10:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fantasmo @ Sep 11 2003, 10:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Because I have talked to many people online who thinks the game is very close to balanced except for a slight advantage on the alien side. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If they're at an advantage only in pubs (slightly), I think it's good, that's how NS can stay unique. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So you would select:

    5) Perfectly Balanced.

    Since you feel NS is balanced just fine.

    Look, I didn't want to make this a "how balanced is NS thread" it was only meant as a suggestion to Flay to expand the options of his 2.01 Balance Poll so he can get a better read of the community.

    Currently his choices are:

    1) It's very close to balanced (40/60% or closer)
    2) Aliens are dominant
    3) Marines are dominant

    Well it seems to me neither side is clearly dominating the game in pubs and one team might have some inherent advantages (however so slightly) due to their team/res model. So I thought it would be nice to split option 1 into 2 options which specify where that 10% of inbalance is located, 40/60 on the marine side or 40/60 on the alien side.

    Cool?
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    I think they're nearer to eachother than 40-60--I think it's more like 55-45. Or maybe I've been playing on the wrong servers, I don't know.
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pjofsky+Sep 12 2003, 01:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pjofsky @ Sep 12 2003, 01:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think they're nearer to eachother than 40-60--I think it's more like 55-45.  Or maybe I've been playing on the wrong servers, I don't know.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The exact percentage is probably not important. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    All that Flay needs to know is which side we feel is <i>slightly</i> more powerful so when he makes tweakages it's minor ones instead of major ones.

    My experience on Pubs comes from servers such as Redphive, H2O, Evil, P&Bs, DSSG [OSS], Chitown, OLDF, Sleepless, Skulkpit, Arsclan, Gibgames, Tekwar, GRAVEYARD and sometimes the Hamptons. (I pick servers based on the ping I get on 'em <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->)
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