View Of America After Bush Is Gone
Violent_J
Join Date: 2003-09-09 Member: 20704Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">assuming democrats take over...</div> I would like to discuss how the world would view America assuming Bush is defeated in the 2004 elections. If a democrat takes office will it change the attitude of people around the world towards America ? Would people be optimistic about a new president and hope for a better America?
If this is the case then i would also ask the question, does Anti-American sentiment derive soley from President Bush? If he would be defeated would anti-Americanism drop? or would people still dislike America as a whole.?
I personally think it would depend on the policies of the new president but would be optomistic.
What are your opinions on this?
If this is the case then i would also ask the question, does Anti-American sentiment derive soley from President Bush? If he would be defeated would anti-Americanism drop? or would people still dislike America as a whole.?
I personally think it would depend on the policies of the new president but would be optomistic.
What are your opinions on this?
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You know what Yoda said? Fear leads to hate(or so, don't cut me in to pieces sw freaks), and that's pretty nicely put. USA is the most powerful nation with largest nuke arsenal. People fear USA because it's not actually the most stabile nation in the world and that's why they hate it. World would be much more peaceful place if all the big nations would be broken down in to smaller countries with max population of 25million people.
You know what Yoda said? Fear leads to hate(or so, don't cut me in to pieces sw freaks), and that's pretty nicely put. USA is the most powerful nation with largest nuke arsenal. People fear USA because it's not actually the most stabile nation in the world and that's why they hate it. World would be much more peaceful place if all the big nations would be broken down in to smaller countries with max population of 25million people. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm going to ignore the completely flawed logic in your post and just ask you if you are aware that Los Angeles has a population of around 28 million.
You know what Yoda said? Fear leads to hate(or so, don't cut me in to pieces sw freaks), and that's pretty nicely put. USA is the most powerful nation with largest nuke arsenal. People fear USA because it's not actually the most stabile nation in the world and that's why they hate it. World would be much more peaceful place if all the big nations would be broken down in to smaller countries with max population of 25million people. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm going to ignore the completely flawed logic in your post and just ask you if you are aware that Los Angeles has a population of around 28 million. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What logic? Flawed how? The part that people hate USA because they are afraid of it or the part that superpowers are bad?
It's just my opinion. We either need all the countries to be part of superpower like it's currently going(US, EU, Russia/China) or no super powers at all.
Really? I thought people hated the US because it basically treats the rest of the world like ****...
Really? I thought people hated the US because it basically treats the rest of the world like ****... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, that too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> But people wouldn't give a crap about how USA treats other countries if it weren't so powerful.
The main reason is that it's a big country that is getting high on power.
Will my dislike of America go down when Bush goes? Yes. I quite like many of the ideals and philosophies that America as a nation is founded upon, what I don't like is when those ideals are forgotten or twisted by the government of the US. Bush I believe is sending out an image of the US that simply isn't what the nation as a whole is all about. He is also taking America in directions that I see as dangerous and counter-productive to world peace. So yes, if a Democrat takes over, I will hope that America's image and policies will change. Of course, if he or she pursues the same path Bush has taken, I will be inclined to remain opposed to the America of today.
Really? I thought people hated the US because it basically treats the rest of the world like ****... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats my reasoning, ooh and its own people <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Its like me, when I say all democrats are fat slobs who wish for full government control over everything like jerk off Michael Moore <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Man American politics must have changed heaps in the last 150 years. It was the Republicans in the Civil War who advocated greater government control and now you say they oppose it? I might start reading up on current American political trends.
Sheep you may have the wrong impression. I don't dislike Bush because he's a Republican, same way I don't dislike my country's leader because he's a Liberal. I dislike them both because of their policies and political thoughts. If Bush wasn't so aggressive, if he wanted to preserve the Alaskan Wildlife Preserve, if he introduced minimum fuel efficientcy laws for SUVs, if he actively promoted alternate fuels, if he supported abortion ect... (I could go on but it would be a bit pointless, I think you get the idea) I'd think he was a great leader. Now you think that he's done some good things because that's your political ideology. Fine by me, that's everyone's free choice. But because Bush's policies are against my way of thinking, I don't think he's doing a good job. That's why if a Democract took over next election and followed the same policies I would dislike him or her as well.
*cough* well, one party will probably want to undo some of the things the previous party did, so that means that whatever bush has done will mostly be undone by the next party to take office. Hey, it happens in Canada all the time... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I will be surprised if democrats don't win the next election. Although I lean more towards republican, I don't believe having a democratic president next will be a bad thing. Hopefully they will balance things out
Oh except for the children
the adults
anyone not from the US
Iranians
North Koreans
Anyone-bush-sees-fit-to-exterminate