Tragedies Such As The Wtc

esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
edited September 2003 in Discussions
<div class="IPBDescription">and others....</div> ...but mainly aimed about the WTC.

First of all i'd like to preface this message by saying that i have every respect for those who were killed in the terrorist attacks on the WTC buildings, and i also have every respect for those emergency workers that strived to save people, and lost many of their own. My father is an emergency planner and basically writes the manuals for this kind of thing, i'm well aware that if this was in England, my father would be one of the ones out their trying his hardest and putting his life on the line. I'm deadly serious.

But... with all that said, i'd like to refer you to <a href='http://warnuts.com/' target='_blank'>this</a>. The offending page is a badly made, badly animated piece of flash that is striving to both mourn the losses and give power to those that did right. But they're not the messages that are given.

There have been a great deal of American Patriotic nonsense and also a great deal of poor tributes to those who lost their lives or lost those whom they know or love. Basically my question is, is this sort of patriotic drivel nothing but an insult to those who died, and and an excuse to brandish empowering statements about America? I find this ridiculous patriotism to be nothing short of offensive.

[EDIT] Ontop of what i said earlier, i'd like to refer you to the amount of "make-you-feel-crappy" images there are out there, you know the ones i mean. I'm pretty sure we all understand the magnetude of something of this scale (hell, years on we're still talking about it) and i'm <i>positive</i> we're not going to forget too soon. [/EDIT]

And again, to end this message, i have <b>NOTHING BUT RESPECT</b> to those whom lost and gave their lives at the time of the WTC incident, so don't even attempt to feed me some BS about me either not respecting them. Oh, and no, i'm English, not American, but don't let that stand in the way of me having an opinion.

Comments

  • DarkDudeDarkDude Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19088Members
    Hopefully this want turn into a flame war like the other 9/11 thread in General Discussion. Yea, I can see where you ar coming from, but I think one of the most offensive things is how Bush is using 9/11 to boost him in his campaign race. It happened only 2 years ago and I'm already hearing jokes about it, you never hear jokes about Pearl Harbor, do you? I agree that we have to move on but 9/11 should <b><u>NEVER</u></b> be used to make a joke, or to boost someones popularity.

    Another thing I can't believe is that some people are saying that 9/11 was "over-hyped" and that the media turned it into a drama. In a day where if a celebrity gets jailed it makes front page news how was 9/11 over-hyped? The Kobe Bryant case makes front page news so often and personally, I don't care about it! I'd rather see the front page headline talking about the two soldiers killed in Iraq, or the 5 citizens wounded by a misfire in Afghanistan. The western world has it's priorities wrong all too often. But on 9/11 and the weeks following it they weren't wrong, and if you feel that they were then you are very cold at heart.

    Well, just had to get some anger off my chest, just sick of people thinking they're cool because they can say stuff like that, act like they don't care about life in general, it's sad almost. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> Now I guess I'll go shoot up some more aliens to make myself feel better. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    Esuna, you're right, and I never thought about it exactly like that before. I'm sure most of the people who lost their lives in the World Trade Center were intelligent, deep, and peace-loving people. Not only have the media turned their deaths into a circus; their deaths have been used as an excuse to cause more deaths. I know that if I died in an act of terrorism, I wouldn't want someone 'remembering' me by putting 4 American flags on their car and plastering it with cheesy bumper stickers; even more importantly, I wouldn't want someone to turn me into a martyr and cause more death on my 'behalf'. Are we barbarians? I'm not Christian, but considering it's the most popular religion, I have to ask, is this what Jesus would want?
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    in a way, its kinda sad that people set out to make a memorial piece of flash (tacky as it may sound) and then end up with aggressive sounding 'we will not be defeated' sentaments that totally distract from the people who died, and chose to focus more on the creators ideas of what seem to be mostly cheesy 'us and them' style lines directed against terrorism.
    the focus of any rememberance, i beleive should be the people who died, and nothing else.
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