The Unofficial Steam Results Thread
Marine0I
Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8639Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">If it works for you, tell us how....</div> EDIT <a href='http://forums.dodnetwork.com/index.php?showtopic=739' target='_blank'>This Guide</a> is pure gold to getting steam to work. Also check out the thread in Off-topic, its awesome as well.
I was having a look at the DoD forums answers to steam issues and frankly they are waaaayyyy ahead of people here. They have an entire forum section devoted to steam, the people that have it working are trying to help others, people are collecting what they know about steam and sharing it with others. I fail to see that here, and I always imagined we had a better community then DoD.
Still, here is our chance to redeem ourselves. If you manage to get NS working on your computer (or any halflife mod for that matter), tell us what you did, tell us what you have worked out about steam.
To get this started, here is what I have figured about steam. First off, a lot of steam upload servers are really full, hence damn awful downloading. Second, it collects your cdkey from your registry. Third, once you register yourself with steam, that cdkey becomes YOURS. In other words, if you try and reregister under a different name, you are going to get an email that tells you your cdkey has already been used.
Fourth, if you are installing the initial steam program and it appears to hang, check your internet connection. Is it sending data? If it is sending and recieving and you are doing nothing else with it, then chances are steam is d/ling, its just not showing you.
Fifth, when steam caches, it can leave the cached version somewhere else on your computer. Not necessarily in program files/steam/steamapps/youremail/halflife (if you even have that halflife folder there. So have a search on your computer. Search for ns or dod, see if you can find where Steam has hidden it, then copy these folders (NOT CUT) to program files/steam/steamapps/youremail/halflife.
If you for example you say launch DoD, and it says preparing to launch, but doesnt actually appear to go anywhere, check your "monitor box", and you'll find that its actually not hanging, its downloading. So dont click cancel, just wait. Then if you get into the DoD screen and try and join a game, you might get a problem with timeouts, that because steam is downloading more updates or the map. Again, watch your monitor to find out. Sometimes to make the damn thing update you have to try to join a server.
Patiences seems to be the key to steam. If in doubt, give it 30 min should be a general rule of thumb. Keep an eye on the monitor but above all wait.
Below is some stolen help from the DoD forums. If anyone can help people with getting ns to run, that would be great. Especially if we couldnt cache NS over, and thus dont get an icon in steam-games.
EDIT If you are looking for serious help with steam in general, not just NS - head over to www.dayofdefeat.com and go to the forums. Enter their steam section.
POST
When you launch This summary of perceptions and experiences I had while attempting to
get steam running on my comp, is supposed to help you to succeed in
your efforts to get it running as well (hope it does).
Transferring your existing installation
The first rule of thumb I have for you is: If you intend to implement your
existing Half-Life (or DoD/CS retail, or whatever) installation into Steam instead
of downloading the whole nine yards, don't interrupt the process at all costs,
because you won't get a second chance on doing this (at least I did not figure
out how) without having to start the installation process all over again... etc. etc.
(many of you probably will know the score)
Depending on your system specs and degree of fragmentation of the files on your
harddrive, this can take quite a bunch of time. The basic key here is patience,
patience, patience.
Steamy Misunderstandings
First of all I have to fill you in on a fundamental misconception I was having about
Steam: Steam isn't just a lil proggie that just moves your half-life and mods over to
another folder and authentificates through other IDs.
Think of it as a regular Half-Life patch. Even if you have steam get most of the stuff it
needs from your harddrive, it still needs to download that 'new half-life patch'.
So you're not instantly ready to go even after your half-life installation is assimilated.
Since the content servers' bandwidth capacities are suffering from the tons of
requests of steam disciples who still need to download stuff, that can take a lot
of time (but whom am I telling this).
Lockup (not the movie with Sly)
I had the same enigmatic 'lockup' when trying to install a game via steam
(we all know the phenomenom by now).
Yet, I noticed that even while the program wasn't reacting anymore
according to my taskmanager, it still was downloading some stuff in
really really slow steps, by monitoring my internet activity.
So eventually I did get fed up with it taking so long in hibernation on the brim
of locking up, that I cancelled it. Yet, when I restarted the program, I
realised that my DoD icon in the games list was actually highlighted.
That proved that it hadn't been entirely dead.
Installing the game
Once you get this far, you've got the foot in the door. Select the highlighted
game icon and launch the game. You will get that all too familiar
"preparing launch of game" with the blinking dots.
The trick here is: No matter how long your beard grows, do not close that window,
because after a while you will get a new window that says "updating day of defeat".
For the first time, you'll have some means of information on how far your game is
installed/updated in form of a progress bar and an estimated eta.
From that point on, simply install one game after another. Since that's going to take
a while (especially for those who didn't transfer their previous half-life installation),
go get some sleep. At least I will.
Update: Lol, heed this advice from someone who just woke up from 6 hours
of sleep, sitting in front of his monitor staring in disbelief: In 6 hours (read six hours!)
of unattended updating, I got 2 blips on the progress bar further down the road of
installing the last game I wanted to have (DoD).
Diabolical gremlins at work
I asked myself: what had happened during my sleep that had caused it to
stop updating without being finished?
A quick check on my gameslist confirmed my suspicions: Steam had somehow
automagically switched all my games from "Always keep this game up to date"
to "Do not autmatically update this game". So my advice is, when you get up in the
night to go to the bathroom, also make a quick check if some sadistic ****
switched you back to 'no-update mode' and then go back to sleep.
Update: After Steam idling around for about an hour or so, I decided to
shut it down and restart my computer. When I restarted and ran Steam once
more, it began to download really fast and I report to you after my first game
of DoD via Steam!
It seems that I was connected to a content server that got shot down while I
was sleeping and Steam obviously isn't able to switch over to another content
server automatically. My suggestion is that you shut down steam from time to time
and rerun it, so that it connects to a different content server that works better for you
I was having a look at the DoD forums answers to steam issues and frankly they are waaaayyyy ahead of people here. They have an entire forum section devoted to steam, the people that have it working are trying to help others, people are collecting what they know about steam and sharing it with others. I fail to see that here, and I always imagined we had a better community then DoD.
Still, here is our chance to redeem ourselves. If you manage to get NS working on your computer (or any halflife mod for that matter), tell us what you did, tell us what you have worked out about steam.
To get this started, here is what I have figured about steam. First off, a lot of steam upload servers are really full, hence damn awful downloading. Second, it collects your cdkey from your registry. Third, once you register yourself with steam, that cdkey becomes YOURS. In other words, if you try and reregister under a different name, you are going to get an email that tells you your cdkey has already been used.
Fourth, if you are installing the initial steam program and it appears to hang, check your internet connection. Is it sending data? If it is sending and recieving and you are doing nothing else with it, then chances are steam is d/ling, its just not showing you.
Fifth, when steam caches, it can leave the cached version somewhere else on your computer. Not necessarily in program files/steam/steamapps/youremail/halflife (if you even have that halflife folder there. So have a search on your computer. Search for ns or dod, see if you can find where Steam has hidden it, then copy these folders (NOT CUT) to program files/steam/steamapps/youremail/halflife.
If you for example you say launch DoD, and it says preparing to launch, but doesnt actually appear to go anywhere, check your "monitor box", and you'll find that its actually not hanging, its downloading. So dont click cancel, just wait. Then if you get into the DoD screen and try and join a game, you might get a problem with timeouts, that because steam is downloading more updates or the map. Again, watch your monitor to find out. Sometimes to make the damn thing update you have to try to join a server.
Patiences seems to be the key to steam. If in doubt, give it 30 min should be a general rule of thumb. Keep an eye on the monitor but above all wait.
Below is some stolen help from the DoD forums. If anyone can help people with getting ns to run, that would be great. Especially if we couldnt cache NS over, and thus dont get an icon in steam-games.
EDIT If you are looking for serious help with steam in general, not just NS - head over to www.dayofdefeat.com and go to the forums. Enter their steam section.
POST
When you launch This summary of perceptions and experiences I had while attempting to
get steam running on my comp, is supposed to help you to succeed in
your efforts to get it running as well (hope it does).
Transferring your existing installation
The first rule of thumb I have for you is: If you intend to implement your
existing Half-Life (or DoD/CS retail, or whatever) installation into Steam instead
of downloading the whole nine yards, don't interrupt the process at all costs,
because you won't get a second chance on doing this (at least I did not figure
out how) without having to start the installation process all over again... etc. etc.
(many of you probably will know the score)
Depending on your system specs and degree of fragmentation of the files on your
harddrive, this can take quite a bunch of time. The basic key here is patience,
patience, patience.
Steamy Misunderstandings
First of all I have to fill you in on a fundamental misconception I was having about
Steam: Steam isn't just a lil proggie that just moves your half-life and mods over to
another folder and authentificates through other IDs.
Think of it as a regular Half-Life patch. Even if you have steam get most of the stuff it
needs from your harddrive, it still needs to download that 'new half-life patch'.
So you're not instantly ready to go even after your half-life installation is assimilated.
Since the content servers' bandwidth capacities are suffering from the tons of
requests of steam disciples who still need to download stuff, that can take a lot
of time (but whom am I telling this).
Lockup (not the movie with Sly)
I had the same enigmatic 'lockup' when trying to install a game via steam
(we all know the phenomenom by now).
Yet, I noticed that even while the program wasn't reacting anymore
according to my taskmanager, it still was downloading some stuff in
really really slow steps, by monitoring my internet activity.
So eventually I did get fed up with it taking so long in hibernation on the brim
of locking up, that I cancelled it. Yet, when I restarted the program, I
realised that my DoD icon in the games list was actually highlighted.
That proved that it hadn't been entirely dead.
Installing the game
Once you get this far, you've got the foot in the door. Select the highlighted
game icon and launch the game. You will get that all too familiar
"preparing launch of game" with the blinking dots.
The trick here is: No matter how long your beard grows, do not close that window,
because after a while you will get a new window that says "updating day of defeat".
For the first time, you'll have some means of information on how far your game is
installed/updated in form of a progress bar and an estimated eta.
From that point on, simply install one game after another. Since that's going to take
a while (especially for those who didn't transfer their previous half-life installation),
go get some sleep. At least I will.
Update: Lol, heed this advice from someone who just woke up from 6 hours
of sleep, sitting in front of his monitor staring in disbelief: In 6 hours (read six hours!)
of unattended updating, I got 2 blips on the progress bar further down the road of
installing the last game I wanted to have (DoD).
Diabolical gremlins at work
I asked myself: what had happened during my sleep that had caused it to
stop updating without being finished?
A quick check on my gameslist confirmed my suspicions: Steam had somehow
automagically switched all my games from "Always keep this game up to date"
to "Do not autmatically update this game". So my advice is, when you get up in the
night to go to the bathroom, also make a quick check if some sadistic ****
switched you back to 'no-update mode' and then go back to sleep.
Update: After Steam idling around for about an hour or so, I decided to
shut it down and restart my computer. When I restarted and ran Steam once
more, it began to download really fast and I report to you after my first game
of DoD via Steam!
It seems that I was connected to a content server that got shot down while I
was sleeping and Steam obviously isn't able to switch over to another content
server automatically. My suggestion is that you shut down steam from time to time
and rerun it, so that it connects to a different content server that works better for you
Comments
oh and all of this is leached from
<a href='http://www.steampowered.com/faq.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.steampowered.com/faq.htm</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How do I install and use mods in Steam?
If you have a Half-Life mod installed before installing Steam, Steam will automatically convert and install the game for you. It will then be accessible in the Steam "My Games" list under "Third Party Games."
If you want to add a mod after installing Steam, you need only to put it in the Steam/SteamApps/your_email_address/Half-Life directory. The next time you open the "My Games" list it will be listed under "Third Party Games."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
for Steam to work:
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The following ports must be "open":
UDP 1200
UDP 27000 to 27015 inclusive
TCP 27030 to 27039 inclusive<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Does Steam upload information or files from my computer? Is Steam Spyware?
Nothing gets uploaded from users' machines to Steam other than account login information and other server communication/protocol information. We transfer no files from the client to the Steam system.
Some users have seen non-Steam related information (like names of private files on their computer) show up inside their Steam cache files, raising privacy concerns. This is actually a result of the way Windows handles files. The cache file gets created on the client using the Windows CreateFile() command. This command will create the file but not initialize it. Due to the large size of the file, we don't bother initializing the empty data blocks in it as this can take an appreciable amount of time. On NTFS machines, files created with this method happen to have the property of appearing empty (initialized to zero) but for FAT32 machines, it shows up as whatever old data was sitting on drive in the sectors that just got allocated for the cache. The people that are reporting this behavior are actually seeing old data from their hard drives. It's never uploaded or even looked at by the client. Eventually, as they download more data, it gets written over.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How do I stop Steam from running automatically when I start my computer?
From the Steam icon in the notification tray, select Settings. Switch to the Interface tab, and uncheck the box that says "Run Steam when Windows starts".<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I install ns 2.0 in the folder steamapps/<mymail>/half-life/ and the install create yhe folder /ns and now the ns appears in the game list fo steam as a 3th party game.
somebody know how fix this ?
1. I downloaded the 397mb Half-Life and Counter-Strike file from fileplanet(many places are hosting it though)
2. I installed it regularly.
3. Double click -ALL- of your official mods and expansions, so that you can play them.
4. For all those mods that you had BEFORE THIS, take their old file, and copy it into your c:\program files\steam\steamapps\username@email.com.
5. For regular, non-official mods, just copy + paste into your Half-Life directory inside of the folder shown in #4.
oh and all of this is leached from
<a href='http://www.steampowered.com/faq.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.steampowered.com/faq.htm</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How do I install and use mods in Steam?
If you have a Half-Life mod installed before installing Steam, Steam will automatically convert and install the game for you. It will then be accessible in the Steam "My Games" list under "Third Party Games."
If you want to add a mod after installing Steam, you need only to put it in the Steam/SteamApps/your_email_address/Half-Life directory. The next time you open the "My Games" list it will be listed under "Third Party Games."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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ok i installed steam and everything worked fine ns was in my game list then i restarted and all of a sudden BAM its gone. so i reinstall steam. Nothing. so i unistall steam and Hl including all mods. Restart. then i reinstalled HL including CS and NS then NONE of my games were in game list so i thought forget downloading through steam so i unistalled steam download the CACHE version and installed. Cs worked and so do all the other steam OFFICAL mods but still no NS. so i tryed copying over manually like steam advise BUT STILL NOTHING.
NE HELP?
I have a few graphical glitches now though.
1.) The pop-up menu often looks garbled.
2.) No crosshairs for anything.
It seems their is a problem with drawing sprites.
I had NS in my list
then it poofed
Steam is just royaly borked for me
it takes a few MINUTS to BOOT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE
SteamProcessCall(Login0xab0003,0x15efc04,0x15efd0c) Failed with error 200 : Connection Reset, Winsock Error 10054 "Connection Reset by Peer"
Can anyone help me? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
Bodger
MArine you = GOD
I am such a twit, I didn't actualy REALY read yuor post
if you constantly can't conect to steam REBOOT!!!!
aparently when you boot your comp it randomly chooses a steam server and sticks with it! (what a pos)
so reboot and hope for a better server <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Last night I told steam to play the game TFC, it went to the "Launching game" window, I then left the computer alone (bear in mind that Kazaa was running), I come back, and it claims my steam ticket has expired. I relog in. Launch TFC again, leave computer, go to sleep. Wake up in the morning and ALL my games except TFC are greyed out as if I never downloaded them or cached them at all. I double click the now grayed out cs, it says its going to download it for me. I say SOD THAT, restart, and now all my mods are back again.
If I'm commanding but do NOT have any building selected it goes alright at about 30fps. But as soon as I select any building, whether it's already on the ground or I'm placing it my framerate drops to about 4-7fps. This doesn't occur on Old-HL
I also get the following error in the console too:<!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->Error: could not load file sprites/techtree/tech0s.spr<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->This sprite file doesn't seem to exist in the steam HL or the old HL.
So anyone else getting the FPS drop and if so, know how to fix it?
I have finally been successful in getting Steam and NS running. I basically copied my old NS over to the steamapps. Then started it, rebooted, started it rebooted etc. for a good 30 times and then poof it started working late last night. Go figure.
Bodger
1) Installed full (300MB+) Steam
2) Copied NS folder to the Steam HL folder, as usual
3) <b>Copied FMOD.DLL file to Steam HL folder, NOT NS folder</b>
4) Ran from Steam menu.
Number 3 is key, it kept complaining about not having that DLL File.
Side effects/evil things with Steam:
1) No NS-specific settings can be set in-game
2) New game-font is not smooth like old one
3) Contrast is bad with new large chat-font, hard to see
4) Alien evolve/build menu has visual problems
5) Minor text cutoff problems in scoreboard
6) Death messages are too light
7) Some GUI elements didn't scale up (Running at 1280x1024) to normal size, are smaller than usual
8) Some other brightness related things
9) Can't seem to use custom programs (ASE, HLSW) or custom shortcuts (To specify command line parameters)
It's working pretty well, except for a few things:
1. the right-click gui is a bit garbled, but it's still understandable if you move it around and force it to repaint itself
2. I can't launch directly into a NS server from the server browser in windows, I have to launch Natural Selection from my games list first, then access a server from the browser
3. I keep getting this message in my console: unknown command: ex_maxerrordistance
4. I get dropped from servers that don't support steam
5. servers that do support steam don't support HL/WONIDs (unlike DoD)
But the game is prettymuch behaving normaly, and I just finished a good game
i now have it all working and its great
i transferred my ns to steam
and only 3 servers had players in them... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
issuse with ns on steam:
-ex_maxerrordistance
-i crash when the map ends
-the gui has its gamma messed up or something
-the menus are messed up
other then that, had a great game on hera, marines won, got to the ready room, then lock up :/
Steps taken:
1) First DL Steam and run install. Mod conversion failed.
2) Acquire HL and CS cache files by BitTorrent. Link: <a href='http://zodiac.mobilefrenzy.com/torrents/285/Steam-HL.and.CS.Install.Files-rar.torrent' target='_blank'>http://zodiac.mobilefrenzy.com/torrents/28...les-rar.torrent</a>
3) Unzip files to SteamApps dir
4) Start HL in Steam
5) Start CS in Steam. Alles ist OK!
6) Install NS2 to ...\Steam\SteamApps\<e-mail>\Half-Life\
7) Game shows up in 3rd party games list of Steam.
8) Launch game.
Had a bit of problems playing NS initially
I cant look for game servers in the regular server browser of Steam. It doesnt have NS listed as game type. However, I entered "ns" as map name, a convenient way to filter away all non-ns running servers.
When I launched NS I had a problem with the launch options; it looked for games in the server browser starting with
ns-32bpp
As poster below stated: I had to right-click Half-Life game listed in steam ->Properties -> Launch Options and then delete the -32bpp string. Not sure how that string got there. After this I could set up NS to use 32bpp inside the game using the menu.
All options seemed to work. If you click the Advanced menu you get access to all the NS specific settings. Sound was fine, maps seemed fine, only problem was garbled pop-up menu and "Larger than Life" fonts making things look a bit... clunky.
[edit] Thanks to Align for helping me solve the -32bpp headache[/edit]
But I cant look for game servers in teh regular server browser of Steam. I have to launch Natural Selection
Upon doing this I see that it looks for a game on filter called:
ns-32bpp
WTH!
It also creates a new folder in the half-life folder called ns-32bpp.
Whats that about now <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Remove the Launch Options string in the Half-Life properties window.
ASE is wonderful though, and supports how steam crappily works. There just aren't many steam_ns servers. And for good reason. Gui sprite overflows, shoddy fps, a crappy font and increased gamma, and garbled menus. Steam is really quite horrid and since Valve decided to be tight-lipped about it, only their official mods are working properly. Way to screw up an engine that's worked for years, Valve.
I'm stuck with this crap now, and am seriously craving a Natural Selection fix. I'm angry with valve and the new system. It's so...SO bad. But hey, CS works, so I should be happy. Right.
I used the first install (without HL&CS cache) and selected 'Half-Life' in the Games window. It took some time but it managed to download and install the Half-Life files (but NOT CS, i don't want any crappy CS file infecting my computer). I started a single player game.. long mapchanges but its working, i also tried a multiplayer HL deathmatch, everything was fine.
Now with NS.. it doesnt work.. i copied my NS2 install into steam and it shows under the "third party games" and all. I manage to find a steam server via the steam server browser (only a few servers in the browser btw.. like 20 servers and i can find 533 servers with ASE...) and i click it to join, here's the result: <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
1) Intalled Steam 1.0 379mb (hl/cs cashed version)
2) copied NS 2.0 to C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\<myemailaddy>\half-life
3) Opened HLSW, adjusted HL target as C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\<myemailaddy>\half-life
4) Attempted to join any NS server using HLSW. Attempt fails. Steam drops back to HL in-game launcher and is now pointing to the correct NS directory. You can now look for and create Steam/NS servers but only while in-game launcher remains open.
The only problem I see now is, NS is not quite ready for the steam platform. Some things I found were, framerates in steam/ns are much lower then they were in HL 1.1.1.0/ns. Commanding is very difficult because your fps drops to sub teens. The in-game gui menu is unreadable, the text is blured out. Gamma seems brighter then normal. And an error message that keeps flowing in the console, something about "maxerrordistance".
Download steam through Bittorrent - No problems there took about 2 hours averaged about 70 bit.
Installed Steam and got the OCEACC.DLL was missing error - Checked the steam website and found this link
<a href='http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6327&highlight=oleacc.dll' target='_blank'>http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthr...ight=oleacc.dll</a>
Which tells you how and where to download the dummy file - got steam to start
Joined a few different NS games and got disconnected each time - followed
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Guspaz Posted: Sep 15 2003, 06:48 PM
Got NS installed fine under steam. Installation process (Differs slightly from usual quoted one):
1) Installed full (300MB+) Steam
2) Copied NS folder to the Steam HL folder, as usual
3) <b>Copied FMOD.DLL file to Steam HL folder, NOT NS folder</b>
4) Ran from Steam menu.
Number 3 is key, it kept complaining about not having that DLL File.
Side effects/evil things with Steam:
1) No NS-specific settings can be set in-game
2) New game-font is not smooth like old one
3) Contrast is bad with new large chat-font, hard to see
4) Alien evolve/build menu has visual problems
5) Minor text cutoff problems in scoreboard
6) Death messages are too light
7) Some GUI elements didn't scale up (Running at 1280x1024) to normal size, are smaller than usual
8) Some other brightness related things
9) Can't seem to use custom programs (ASE, HLSW) or custom shortcuts (To specify command line parameters)
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks for that info <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Other than that i played fine with higher pings and bad menu displays
System specs
AMD 1.3
512MB
ati 9000
NO SOUNDCARD
windows 98
desktop 1024 x 768
Edit . Included Guspaz name into the quote