The Patriots
greyfox5
Join Date: 2002-02-14 Member: 217Members
<div class="IPBDescription">what if...?</div> I just beat mgs2...good game, but...it makes me wonder....
What if the actual idea of "The Patriots" real?
12 men, ruling the US
Censorship of all things they dont like
Not really a democratic republic, more like a massive monarchy.
They are "dead"
.......TEH BRAIN HURTS.
It also makes me wonder....WHY does our form of government work so well, while in countries, it has failed?
If the "Patriots" were real, it would be the absolute ruling factor...under the cover of the "best" form of government considered...makes yah wonder....
What if the actual idea of "The Patriots" real?
12 men, ruling the US
Censorship of all things they dont like
Not really a democratic republic, more like a massive monarchy.
They are "dead"
.......TEH BRAIN HURTS.
It also makes me wonder....WHY does our form of government work so well, while in countries, it has failed?
If the "Patriots" were real, it would be the absolute ruling factor...under the cover of the "best" form of government considered...makes yah wonder....
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When put to the test, democracy has been found to be cracking as it were. Look at the post S-11 United States, with the Patriot Act, reduction of civil liberties, the nightmare that is Camp X-Ray and the US kept in a constant state of "fear of new attacks". Democracy seems to be being whittled away, one step at a time. Yet is this perhaps the logical reaction for a nation that was attacked? Only time will tell if democracy will survive the tests of the future. One does call to mind Starship Troopers.
I would argue that the reduction in civil liberties is due to the everpresent apathy that is only now being exploited rather than a fear of new attacks, but indeed, democracy is showing some cracks.
If you do some research (I didn't, someone else did) you will find that game has an absolutely <i>huge</i> amount of depth in terms of story (I can think of anything ATM). I've seen many theories on MGS forums.
Still, I think it's all BS. Hideo Kojima (the game's director) is just <i>really</i> good at making a story.
This is totally false when you look at the US.
whites over 21 who owned so-much land were the voters. AFter some fifty years, voting rights gradually expanded to other members of the curent electorate.
Because democracy is not a stable form of government, there was a need to restrict what power the common 'vulgar' had, while keeping them in the dark and making them think they had power. If you take a look at the Constitution, the American public could not vote for president, they couldn't vote for the Senate even. The Senate was elected by state legislatures (originally), which were elected by land-owning white males over 21 years of age. (ogliarchy, really, instead of democracy) The members of congress (representatives) were elected by land-owning white males over 21 years of age, but since there were a large number of representatives, their power was limited compared to the Senate.
This is why. The American public barely had a say in government at the beginning....in other countries this was not the case because they wanted to be like the 'American' example. And the American example at that time is what we have now. Lots of things have changed.
When put to the test, democracy has been found to be cracking as it were. Look at the post S-11 United States, with the Patriot Act, reduction of civil liberties, the nightmare that is Camp X-Ray and the US kept in a constant state of "fear of new attacks". Democracy seems to be being whittled away, one step at a time. Yet is this perhaps the logical reaction for a nation that was attacked? Only time will tell if democracy will survive the tests of the future. One does call to mind Starship Troopers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
My friends didn't understand they lived in a facist state.... they thought the movie was seriously about killing alien "bugs"
That really...**** me off. Great movie, Honestly, I don't think the best solution to government has been created. Whatever it is, can't be "democracy" as we see it.
I couldn't agree more.
Pretty interesting book, haven't finished it yet.