New Video Card.

LemurZoboomafooLemurZoboomafoo Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8131Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Wanna help me pick one?</div> I've got a PCI GeForce2 MX200 right now.
ASUS A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe board,
Corsair 512MB DDR PC3200 400MHz DIMM,
AthlonXP 2600+ 333MHz Thoroughbred.

Just trying to choose what video card I want to put in this thing. Thinkin about this one right here.
<a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=14-102-303' target='_blank'>http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?...tion=14-102-303</a>
What do you guys think for a max budget of $175?

Comments

  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    I can say right now you won't be happy with that. Look at other regular 9800's that are non SE and check their price. Huge difference. AS a reviewer states there are only four pipelines, so basically this thing is a 9600 pro, only with 9800 slapped on it. If you want a card right away I suggest the Tyan 9600 pro, or if you wait for benchmarks, the 9600 XT is supposed to be released this month, and on ATI's site they claim it's faster than cards double its price. Obviously an overstatement, but still, wait for the benchmarks if thats youre route.
  • LemurZoboomafooLemurZoboomafoo Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8131Members
    I want something that will support DirectX 9.0 features.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
  • LemurZoboomafooLemurZoboomafoo Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8131Members
    Hmm, so then the best bang for my stingy yet demanding buck would be what? Planning on ordering something today, if not within the week.
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    Who needs a video card when you can bask in the glory that is Software Mode?
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TenSix+Oct 7 2003, 01:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TenSix @ Oct 7 2003, 01:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Who needs a video card when you can bask in the glory that is Software Mode? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ROFLMAO!
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    LOL
    OMG, that 8-bit skulk is attacking with the 8-bit Lork on that flat 2 colour clorf!

    I say go with ATI cards.
    They are BANG for the BUCK.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    The R9500 Pro is probably the best deal... but it's a PITA to find one. It's essentially just an underclocked R9700 Pro.

    Personally, if you have the cash I'd go with an R9600 ProXT if you can wait a little... apparently from independent benchmarks, it outstrips the R9700 Pro in all respects, for a bit under $200.
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Talesin+Oct 7 2003, 03:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Oct 7 2003, 03:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Personally, if you have the cash I'd go with an R9600 ProXT if you can wait a little... apparently from independent benchmarks, it outstrips the R9700 Pro in all respects, for a bit under $200. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Concur. Though if you ABSOLUTELY MUST BUY NOW, I'd say get the <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=14-131-227' target='_blank'>Radeon 9600 Pro</a> with 256mb RAM. It's clocked lower than the upcoming 9600XT, and doesn't perform as well as the nearly impossible-to-find 9500 pro, but it has 256MB of RAM for upcoming texture-heavy games like Half-Life 2 and Doom 3.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    Talesin where did you see the 9600 XT benchmarks?
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DrunkenBozo+Oct 7 2003, 02:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrunkenBozo @ Oct 7 2003, 02:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Talesin+Oct 7 2003, 03:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Oct 7 2003, 03:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Personally, if you have the cash I'd go with an R9600 ProXT if you can wait a little... apparently from independent benchmarks, it outstrips the R9700 Pro in all respects, for a bit under $200. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Concur. Though if you ABSOLUTELY MUST BUY NOW, I'd say get the <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?description=14-131-227' target='_blank'>Radeon 9600 Pro</a> with 256mb RAM. It's clocked lower than the upcoming 9600XT, and doesn't perform as well as the nearly impossible-to-find 9500 pro, but it has 256MB of RAM for upcoming texture-heavy games like Half-Life 2 and Doom 3. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Uhhh. Dude HL2 and Doom3 are going to be optimized for 128 meg performance. Think about it, as a game developer are you going to make a product to appeal to a small audience who buys $200+ graphics cards, or the masses who buy $100 economy cards.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Actually, not all XTs will be 256MB. :b

    And I'd have to look around to find the benchmarks... they had them in a lineup with the 9800 XT, 9600 XT, 9500, 9700, 9600, 9800 (all Pros), and the GFFX 5900 Ultra, GF4 Ti4200, and a smattering of the other FX cards. Ran them through a bunch, and excepting in stuff like Q3A and RTCW (based off Q3A, yes) the R9800 XT couldn't be touched. Even in Q3A, it only lost by about 5fps... which isn't much, when you're measuring fps in the 300-400/s range. And when the card did its little auto-overclock thing... whoo. It WAS untouchable. Plus, you didn't get any of the ugly blur nVidia cards have to resort to in some games to get the framerate up.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Save up to $200, get a radeon9600XT. free HL2 too.



    Im gonna get the 9800XT come spring.
  • LemurZoboomafooLemurZoboomafoo Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8131Members
    I've got enough for an oxygen card, but I'm trying to save money and get my computer working. Right now it's way underclocked to support this PCI GeForce, Halo runs at about 4 fps.
  • LemurZoboomafooLemurZoboomafoo Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8131Members
    Oh, and when are the XT's coming out? Nobody seems to know.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    On ATI's website it says October... meaning... now.
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct+Oct 7 2003, 03:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Oct 7 2003, 03:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [Uhhh. Dude HL2 and Doom3 are going to be optimized for 128 meg performance. Think about it, as a game developer are you going to make a product to appeal to a small audience who buys $200+ graphics cards, or the masses who buy $100 economy cards. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    True. But it's never a bad idea to have extra memory on your vid card. Besides, would you want the target card for a given game or something with a fairly sizeable overhead? The doubled RAM means that you'll have R9600Pro performance (not shabby at all) with enough RAM to support mods that take HL2 texturing to a new level.
  • LemurZoboomafooLemurZoboomafoo Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8131Members
    256mb cards don't offer any performance increases unless you're running full FSAA and Anisotropic filtering in 32 bit at high res. With any current games anyway.
  • LemurZoboomafooLemurZoboomafoo Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8131Members
    Oh yeah, and even then, it's only by a few fps.
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