Agp...pci?

Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Help me Ooby dooby scooby kanoobie</div> Ok, so my cousin helped me put together my PC. This was about a month, two months back.

Now, a GeForce FX5200 8xAGP ain't too good, but it should be able to run Halo with lowest settings at more then 5 FPS in abig area...but it doesn't, so I think my cousin screwed up the AGP connection and has it set to run as PCI.

is there anyway to tell? I just ran the Savage Demo and it said "Your graphics card is currently in PCI mode. Please see Blah blah blah for help".

Help me! I want this beast (ok, it's a small beast) in AGP so I can run Halo goshdarnit!
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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    Uh AGP and PCI aren't modes, they're physical slots on your motherboard... if your card is PCI youre stuck.
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  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    I bought the graphics card as AGP but I think my cousin might have plugged it into the PCI slot.


    it's so aggravating. because it was 8x AGP but I don't feel like taking apart my computer. is there any diagnostic tool to find out if it's PCI or AGP right now?
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  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Oct 11 2003, 08:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Oct 11 2003, 08:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok, so my cousin helped me put together my PC.  This was about a month, two months back.

    Now, a GeForce FX5200 8xAGP ain't too good, but it should be able to run Halo with lowest settings at more then 5 FPS in abig area...but it doesn't, so I think my cousin screwed up the AGP connection and has it set to run as PCI.

    is there anyway to tell? I just ran the Savage Demo and it said "Your graphics card is currently in PCI mode.  Please see Blah blah blah for help".

    Help me! I want this beast (ok, it's a small beast) in AGP so I can run Halo goshdarnit! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I had the same thing with the Savage demo. I suggest you read the document it tells you to read (EDIT: It's called "Important Performance Information" on your start menu.) and that will give you instructions on how to make your card get recognised as AGP rather than PCI.

    In my case, however, i'd forgotten to install the AGP drivers for my motherboard last time i reinstalled so it was picking up my GF FX as PCI too, it really does wonders for your fps once you correct this...
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  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Oct 11 2003, 08:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Oct 11 2003, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I bought the graphics card as AGP but I think my cousin might have plugged it into the PCI slot.


    it's so aggravating. because it was 8x AGP but I don't feel like taking apart my computer. is there any diagnostic tool to find out if it's PCI or AGP right now? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's impossible to plug an AGP card into a PCI slot, it just won't fit, and visa versa. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    Well, I updated my NVidia drivers, my Intel drivers and I can't update my mobo driver thingy cuz the main website is down for it (Asus). Halo still runs reallllly slow though, so is there anything else I should do?
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  • 2of12B0RG2of12B0RG Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11285Members
    edited October 2003
    Slide the side off your case. If the card is in a white slot, it's PCI. If it's in a brown slot, it's AGP.

    If you bought the card as AGP and you suspect your friend plugged it into the PCI slot, I doubt you'd see anything at all on your monitor. Actually I'm 100% sure you would get zero monitor response.
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  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    Take a look in the BIOS (the thing you have to press del at the start to get), it will say what mode your graphics card is in (Don't know where, just have a look, but dont CHANGE anything else for god's sake!).

    Mine was set to PCI for some time yet it still ran. Changing it to AGP made little to no difference tbh.

    What processor do you have? Your FPS is more dependant on your processor than your graphics card. I upgraded (well, technically I fixed the old one...) from a 1050 to a 1500 and went from 20-30fps to 40-50fps.

    When I went from a Radeon 7000 to a 9700 pro I went from 40-50 to 60-80.
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Oct 11 2003, 12:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Oct 11 2003, 12:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I bought the graphics card as AGP but I think my cousin might have plugged it into the PCI slot.


    it's so aggravating. because it was 8x AGP but I don't feel like taking apart my computer. is there any diagnostic tool to find out if it's PCI or AGP right now? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The only way that would work is if he filed it down...
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  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    well, we did have to leave him alone with it for a couple hours.

    I have a Pentium 2.4 ghz type B (533 FSB), with a GeForce FX5200 64mb (I forgot I was buying a 5200, not a Ti4200) and 512 single-channel DDR Ram. Now Halo runs @ 30 fps on my friends computer, 1.4 ghz Athlon, 512 dual channel DDR and a Radeon 9600 ( I think)

    I updated my Intel graphics setting stuff, I updated my NVidia drivers. It's in an agp slot also. I checked. twice.

    Now i'm just gonna try and update the mobo driver.
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  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    check the game settings, run the game in 1024 resolution, not 1600, for instance.
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    If he filed it down, you have to return it now.
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  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    The game settings I have right now are:

    640 x 480 resolution
    low everything
    no to everything that's a check box

    and that's it. I'm gonna re-install my NVidia drivers so I can use the Nvidia center thingy.
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Whats the rest of your computer? You shouldn't have to run it that low...
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  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    It's a

    Pentium 4 2.4ghz Type B (533 FSB)
    Single channel 512 2700 DDR Ram
    40 gb Seagate 7200.7
    Chaintech GeForce FX 5200 64mb DDR
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nil_IQ+Oct 11 2003, 01:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Oct 11 2003, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Take a look in the BIOS (the thing you have to press del at the start to get), it will say what mode your graphics card is in (Don't know where, just have a look, but dont CHANGE anything else for god's sake!).

    Mine was set to PCI for some time yet it still ran. Changing it to AGP made little to no difference tbh.
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    No. Your video card was not 'set' to PCI.

    Most BIOSen contain a switch to select which to use as the primary display adapter, if you have an AGP *and* a PCI video card installed. This is because it defaults to using the PCI one on most mobos, for some wacky reason. You cannot 'set' an AGP card as PCI. :b It Just Don't Work. And I must say, I'm tempted to add this to my big book of tech support forehead-slaps.


    Honestly, the best thing you can do is to patch Halo. Or buy a better video card... the FX5200 is outperformed by a monkey on a tricycle in most cases. Even a GF4MX440 will outperform an FX5200 in most instances. An R9600 (much less a Pro) outperforms an FX5600, and in *cough* certain games, will keep up with an FX5900 Ultra. Don't expect too much out of your video card. It's a budget part.
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  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    yes it was. but I was on a very strict budget (had to keep it all under 800$) and the good cards would have put me up to 850-900$. Once the prices drop in November, i'm gettin me a good card though.
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I like how ATI and Nvidia issue worthless cards and trick people into buying them by lying about how great they are.

    (Radeon 9000, for example.)
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  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    so what's a good performing low budget card? Something that can run Halo @ 30 fps would be nice.

    I'm looking into the 60-120$ price range.
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Oct 11 2003, 07:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Oct 11 2003, 07:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> so what's a good performing low budget card? Something that can run Halo @ 30 fps would be nice.

    I'm looking into the 60-120$ price range. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Im saving every ounce of cash I get till spring, then Im gonna get a Radeon 9800xt <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Hmm... radeon 9600 pros are popular.
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