Does Your Screen Shake With Wep Upgrades

AngryMonkeyAngryMonkey Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9603Awaiting Authorization
Right, weird one this..

Ever since installing 2.0 my screen shakes when i fire the LMG. The cursor moves, the screenshakes, everything. Its not just the sprite as ive tried using custom crosshairs.

I wouldnt be bothered, but ive asked a lot of people and they seem to wonder what im talking about...apparantly for everyone else when firing the LMG the screen doesnt shake, and the crosshair doesnt move...

It gets worse each level of wep upgrades to the point where with lvl3 weapons its like playing one of those old darts games where the crosshair moves randomly and you have to compensate for it manually.

Could you lot tell me if your screen/crosshair shake when firing...or if this is a client problem or something.

Ive tried re-installign everything scratch and running totally default (even with the name nsplayer!) but still the same..
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  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    You computers on crack? Thats bizzare. Never even heard of that problem. My screen only shakes when grenades are going off all over the place. Whats your graphics card?

    You don't happen to drink a lot of coffee while playing do you? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FaiTHLeSSFaiTHLeSS Join Date: 2003-04-29 Member: 15941Members
    turn your hack off, i told you it wouldnt help u any. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Norml_E_HighNorml_E_High Join Date: 2003-03-30 Member: 15055Members
    Yeah first I've heard of this happening... What screen resolution do you run in? Also, like daxx asked what graphics card are you using?
  • AngryMonkeyAngryMonkey Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9603Awaiting Authorization
    GR4 4600 - Latest drivers

    Dual AMD system, 1 gig memory

    erm

    Win XP pro

    Weird thing is though, ive tried it on 3 computers round here, it does the same, different cards/specs etc.

    The only things that remain the same are the base half-life install (of the generatios cd), the mirror im downloading ns2 from, and my adsl line...

    Very very strange..

    I may make an avi of it. Its playable, but like in 1.04 the crosshair was totally stationary even when firing, now its now...makes things very hard to hit.

    Its like the screenshake we used to get off of bilebombs...the whole screen shakes...but this does it constantly when firing (although not as bad as a bile bomb).
  • CheesyPetezaCheesyPeteza Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9784Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I assume you're running in opengl?
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--AngryMonkey+Oct 11 2003, 07:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AngryMonkey @ Oct 11 2003, 07:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Win XP pro <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <b><i>There's</i></b> your problem. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AngryMonkeyAngryMonkey Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9603Awaiting Authorization
    Yeah, opengl. Same thing happens in software or direct3d though..

    Ive just tried windows 2000, same thing..

    Ive tried a custom weapon model, same thing.

    sooo...confused...
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    I get this. I always figured it's just the makeshift "recoil" of the lmg firing. I've never had any problems with it whatsoever before and thought it was purposely there.
  • criogenicscriogenics Join Date: 2003-01-13 Member: 12248Members, Constellation
    lvl3 weapons do give a big more recoil
  • rabbityrabbity Join Date: 2003-07-02 Member: 17866Members
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--rabbity+Oct 12 2003, 05:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rabbity @ Oct 12 2003, 05:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> they do?! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    After just testing this, yeah, they do. It's not exactly significant, but from level 0 to 3 it's definately noticeable.
  • AngryMonkeyAngryMonkey Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9603Awaiting Authorization
    Right....im not alone, thank god for that (was going mad).

    For me, on lvl3, its very noticable (well, in comparison to lvl1 i guess, still nothing in comparison to firing in CS i suppose). I dont understand how people can say they dont have it, if they actaully did have it...surly they would see it.

    Im tempted to say everyone gets the "recoil" and some just dont notice....or maybe some people dont get it and some do?

    Occasionally there is a bug in NS where your gun animation wont play, but you still fire (no sound etc). When this happens although its annoying as you dont know if your firing or not...your aim is perfect because the crosshair is perfectly still (no recoil), you just track the aliens easily. If some people get this no recoil effect even when firing normally...well, i want it...!!

    Im going to get a few people to try it with lvl0 weps, then lvl 3 weps and see if they notice anything. If people still tell me that they have no recoil/crosshair movement i'll look into this further...

    (i was even getting to the stage where i considered there may be different versions of the final ns2 install, some where marines had no recoil and some where the game was more "balanced" and they had recoil...)
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    So are we who are not getting massive recoil in error, or those who are getting massive recoil in error? Who is the person with the bug?
  • pwned_nspwned_ns Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21007Members
    tape xhair to screen and deleate the sprite .. and if it re downloads it ill have a mate make u in invis one
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    I think the fact is, if you're moving your mouse around tracking your target, the screen's moving as it is so the screen shaking when you fire isn't really noticeable at all.

    There is a chance you have got an error on your end, but what you're describing sounds like what's supposed to happen.
  • pwned_nspwned_ns Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21007Members
    edited October 2003
    ^^ lol

    I got an idea ... stick to comming teamuk will thank u for it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AngryMonkeyAngryMonkey Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9603Awaiting Authorization
    Thats what ive always though, its supposed to be there...i mean firing a gun with no recoil is just, wrong...

    The fact that its barly noticable on lvl0 guns, but very noticable on lvl3 guns made me even less suspicious.

    One way to see the difference is to spectate. Fire your gun in game (preferably with lvl2/3 weapons). Take note of the crosshair and screenshake. Then specate. Even for me when i specate a marine firing the crosshair is always perfectly still (no screenshake either). I believe this is what its like for a lot of people.
  • AngryMonkeyAngryMonkey Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9603Awaiting Authorization
    Oh, also I dont think this is related to the gun model or sprite at all, as ive tried lots of models/sprites and the effect is the same.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--AngryMonkey+Oct 11 2003, 11:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AngryMonkey @ Oct 11 2003, 11:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh, also I dont think this is related to the gun model or sprite at all, as ive tried lots of models/sprites and the effect is the same. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sounds more code related anyway. But, yeah my screen does not shake at all. So like I asked earlier, which one is normal, recoil or no recoil?
    Anyone got an idea?
  • pwned_nspwned_ns Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21007Members
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thats what ive always though, its supposed to be there...i mean firing a gun with no recoil is just, wrong...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    hey comeon its not cs, and dont give them any stupid ideas about adding recoil infact .....

    if i had my way i wouldent have anything with the word "coil" involved with ns.
  • AngryMonkeyAngryMonkey Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9603Awaiting Authorization
    It would appear that no-recoil is the norm, as this forum is the first place ive found someone else who has the problem (so, the count is about 100 people have perfectly still screen, 1 person here and me have recoil)....that sux...

    Maybe i'll make a fraps avi or something to show the effect, then get one of you lot who say you dont have it to also make an avi...compare em.

    Going to head round a mates tomorrow who says he has no recoil, see if hes just mistaken or if indeed he has it but just isnt half as picky as i am (i.e hasnt noticed it).
  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--pwned.ns+Oct 12 2003, 05:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pwned.ns @ Oct 12 2003, 05:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if i had my way i wouldent have anything with the word "coil" involved with ns. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I dont think Coil the moderator would appreciate that statement <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • pwned_nspwned_ns Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21007Members
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  • LastLast Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21463Members
    You should consider yourself lucky to get that. Something to spice up the NS experience eh?
  • galweggalweg Join Date: 2003-10-12 Member: 21624Members
    Hi m8,

    This used to happen with HL a *long* time ago. Crosshair would wander about shakily and yer screen would shake. Can't remember the exact cause now (was over 5 years ago). Was something to do with unsupported stuff for yer gfx card. Have u reinstalled yer gfx card and drivers?
  • elchinesetouristelchinesetourist Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17775Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--AngryMonkey+Oct 11 2003, 11:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AngryMonkey @ Oct 11 2003, 11:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh, also I dont think this is related to the gun model or sprite at all, as ive tried lots of models/sprites and the effect is the same. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I know what you're saying. I sensed it but I didn't notice it. From my memories, I can see that spec vs actual brings it out, there's a difference that I felt but that I didn't pick up on or notice.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    Ill pay more attention, but I dont think I get it.
  • AngryMonkeyAngryMonkey Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9603Awaiting Authorization
    Well, tried a difference gfx card in this machine, same thing...shakyshaky...

    Ok, just noticed also...it does it with everything, not just LMG. I didnt notice before because all other weapons are like 1 press things.

    E.g, the skulk bit, on every bite (when it goes "munch") the screen shakes a tiny bit. On every pistol fire it does too. HMG is the same as LMG, there all the time (but then i expected if from the HMG).

    The knife doesnt...knife is always perfectly shake free. Clicking when empty (no ammo) doesnt do it either..
  • meaniemeanie Join Date: 2003-03-25 Member: 14868Members
    i get an explosion sound every now and then and my screen shakes, its not a nader.. i dunno what it is.. doesn't effect me though and i just keep running around
  • CheesyPetezaCheesyPeteza Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9784Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    My screen shakes like you say Monkey. I'd just never noticed until you mentioned it.
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