Us Forces Covering Up Casualty Stats

CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
<div class="IPBDescription">by using expendable mercenaries</div> There have been some "unofficial" rumors that the US military used Foreigners to fight in special units in Iraq. By joining some of these combat units they would be granted full US citizenship.

What they wernt told was that they would basically be the "expendables". B/c they were technically not US soldiers they would not be counted as US casualties when they were killed. They were simply buried out in the desert. One news camera man who was taking pictures of the burial was "accidentaly" shot and killed.
And his film was taken, however people are still looking for those pictures or any other pictures from other similar incidentss

Anyone know anything more to this story, or if its even real?

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  • JammerJammer Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 728Members, Constellation
    Sounds kinda far fetched. US Special forces are highly trained. Its unlikely that they would pick up potentially unreliable foreign riff raff. This story probably spiraled out of Us Cooperation with the Kurds.
  • RatRat Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11486Members
    any mercenaries or "recruited" forces would know exactly what they were there for. If they didn't have quite a good idea, that's their fault for ignorance.
  • LukinLukin Join Date: 2003-08-23 Member: 20098Members
    It is true.

    US Special Forces, at least Green Berets, I'm not sure about SEALs and Force Recon, will go into a country such as Iraq or Afghanistan, recruit and equip locals which are refered to as "Indigenious Forces."

    In the 2.0 patch of America's Army, there will be a new Special Forces feature. Only a certain amount of team members will be US SF. The rest are the Indigenious Forces.

    It isn't something the Army keeps a secret. Why risk the lives of the absolute creme of your military when you have the chance to use locals? A 6 man Beret team will usually accompany the 12-24 man squad of IF.


    Delta Force, to my knowledge, does not do this. But Delta is used for recon gathering usually.


    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->They were simply buried out in the desert. One news camera man who was taking pictures of the burial was "accidentaly" shot and killed.
    And his film was taken, however people are still looking for those pictures or any other pictures from other similar incidents<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Lie. Probably coming from an opponent of the war.

    1) Why would you use a regular grunt? A marine. A soldier. There are MANY of them. 1 would prolly blab.

    2) There are not any new reports near any of the SF teams. Green Berets prefer to work with out anyone else. Even Armor support. And the US Government would not allow any news team imbedded with the SF teams.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    Imnot talking about green berets training the locals i know about that <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->


    These reports were of el salvadorians and other people not iraqis and locals. transported out there, given rudimentary training and then sent int to urban areas to take the death ticket for a real US soldier so we can keep our offical casualty count down, b/c these people dont count.
    oh well who knows
  • LukinLukin Join Date: 2003-08-23 Member: 20098Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->These reports were of el salvadorians and other people not iraqis and locals. transported out there, given rudimentary training and then sent int to urban areas to take the death ticket for a real US soldier so we can keep our offical casualty count down, b/c these people dont count.
    oh well who knows <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Well gee.. that's never been done before!! *cough Bay of Pigs*

    Like I said, why risk our hides when some of them volunteer to do it.
  • RatRat Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11486Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Lukin+Oct 15 2003, 10:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lukin @ Oct 15 2003, 10:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    2) There are not any new reports near any of the SF teams. Green Berets prefer to work with out anyone else. Even Armor support. And the US Government would not allow any news team imbedded with the SF teams. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    the closest thing I've seen as far as "reports" of any SF troops in the War on Terror were pictures of Green Berets riding camels (under full clothing cover, including face) in Afghanistan almost two years ago.
  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    Without some sort of credible source, I'm not inclined to believe it. It sounds more like a story that formed as an extension of a "The US is exploiting the poor and is the devil" story.
  • Marine0IMarine0I Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8639Members, Constellation
    LoL you havent been reading the Social Worker have you <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    edited October 2003
    Heh, I sure wouldn't put the possibility past OUR government...plausible deniability. PFFT. A Cowards whim...
  • KherasKheras Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7869Members
    It's not true. It'd almost be funny except for the fact that some people out there probably believe it.

    The only thing I can think of that is remotely near this is our dealing with the Kurds in the north. We integrated some of them, but said we can't guarantee they'll be top priority for cover if they start something alone. That and we couldn't guarantee they'd not get chewed up by artillery if they moved too far ahead of us. Ended up being a non-issue but /shrug. They conducted themselves pretty well overall.
  • TeflonTeflon Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20289Members
    Just to put this into perspective, there are also rumors that we bombed the WTC ourselves, that we hired an assassin to kill JFK, and we never landed on the moon.
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    I'd be fairly certain that this whole "theory" came out as a result of Kurdish soldiers fighting in Iraq. I honestly can't see any evidance to suggest otherwise. This is probably going to be a fairly pointless debate unless someone brings some proof into it.
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