Ai Sues For Right To Exist In Mock Trial

SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
edited October 2003 in Discussions
Its a bit long to post, so just read it <a href='http://www.kurzweilai.net/meme/frame.html?main=/articles/art0594.html' target='_blank'>here.</a>.

What do you think? Does AI have the right to existance?

I would ask that you please keep religion out of this for the most part. You may mention 'souls' if you wish, but I'd rather not have anybody spewing forth something God/Allah/Mohamud/Pizzlewig said from a book written before the concept even (of AI) existed.

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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SkulkBait+Oct 20 2003, 12:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Oct 20 2003, 12:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Pizzlewig said from a book written before the concept even existed. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm sorry but, LMFAO <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    I'd say the AI has a right to exist. It's like(IMO) if you take a kitten, you don't have the right to kill it but you have to care for it. If you make an AI you shouldn't destroy it either because it IS alive.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    it is just a computer, the parts can be replicated, why not just make some more parts instead of stealing the computer's? Why kill someone for their liver when you can grow your own?
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Z.X. Bogglesteinsky+Oct 20 2003, 01:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Z.X. Bogglesteinsky @ Oct 20 2003, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it is just a computer, the parts can be replicated, why not just make some more parts instead of stealing the computer's? Why kill someone for their liver when you can grow your own? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's cheaper? However I think the point here is if AI should be allowed the same rights as humans. Or at least a right to live.
  • MerciorMercior Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4019Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    You can't just talk about AI and assume that it will end up exactly like yourself. Remember that the AI will have to be trained from "birth" and its ideas and morals will vary depending on what it is taught, just as with humans. EG: Terrorist sucide bombers are bought up to beleive that it is honorable to die by strapping a bomb to yourself. By controlling upbringing and then limiting the AI's abilitys we could control it.

    We would probably train many different AI "personalitys" to help us out as needed in certain situations, by expeimenting with personalitys and only reproducing "stable" personalitys into other AI machines we could ensure control. There would always be a risk of AI learning new things that trigger a personality change, so I imagine that personalitys would be fully trained - eg. You would fully train a surgeon AI to the point where it can do any operation, and then in the AI program itself, put a block on the ability to learn. Viola! 1 perfect surgeon who will never question his existance, why he doesnt get paid, why he works 24 hours a day, etc <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

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    Of course this the same as bringing up a human, teaching him how to chop wood, deliberately giving him brain damage and then exploiting him to work for free. Sounds a lot more immoral when you talk about it in a human sense doesnt it? In my opinion, humans will have to get over the fact that essentially we aren't any better than a computer and get used to the idea of "playing god" to take control and advance our civilisation.

    The real question in this thread is: Given the ability to create life, do we have the right to control it?
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