Cheating Rampant?
curlydave
Join Date: 2003-10-21 Member: 21855Members
Join Date: 2003-10-21 Member: 21855Members
<div class="IPBDescription">What's with all the CD servers?</div> After noticing that perhaps due to bugs, most NS servers still use won. So I set up half-life again and try to play NS, but apparently every active NS server requires cheating death.
I was under the impression that this was going to be like DOD in that it's a fairly small community that is basically cheat free. Whats' with the CD requirements? This game looks like it's gonna kick so much ****, but all the bugs and stuff make it hard to get into!
I was under the impression that this was going to be like DOD in that it's a fairly small community that is basically cheat free. Whats' with the CD requirements? This game looks like it's gonna kick so much ****, but all the bugs and stuff make it hard to get into!
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And your problem with this state of affairs stems from.....?
and so what if pople require CD? it just meens you can yell back at the ftards who accuse any one who kills them of haxoring
OMG HAX, How can an Egg DEVOUR ME?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->?
CS
TFC
DOD
NS
And as for cheating death, I have yet to see any cheater in ns since I started playing ns. Either I've played on the right servers with the right players or a few of those players were/are terrible cheaters.
NS: 1,675 players
TFC: 2,849 players
DoD: 4,286 players
Anyway, of course someone who really knows what he's doing can bypass CD without too much trouble. That's why they have to keep updating it, after all. The point to CD is that what I would guess to be the majority of cheaters are just script kiddies who go find some cheats online, install them and go wreak havoc on random servers. Cheaters such as that aren't determined enough to keep bypassing CD every time a new patch comes out, which is IMHO the primary reason for using it.
Frankly I don't see why anyone wouldn't use it. It just runs in the background and occasionally needs to be patched, no big deal.
what box are you living in?? and is there room for me? DoD has just as many, if not now more cheats than CS. With the release of steam, DoD has seem almost NO updates to its VAC software, CS has had more, so now there are MORE working cheats.
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yes, anyone who can use a hex editor, and script a little can rename the appropriate parts of a hack to make it undetectable to C-D, oh well, there will ALWAYS be hacks, then counters, then new hacks, deal with it
all in all, C-D if nothing less, deters people, with little to no downsides.......... who cares if its running?? just download it, use it, and enjoy the game
That's because according to a lot of people, CD works a lot better than VAC. I don't know how one could tell this, but thats what I heard a few months back. I don't know if VAC has since improved though.
The number of people who are "Oh, any nub can get around C-D" who by & large couldn't code their way out of a paper bag. I know I couldn't.
weirdest thing i saw was 2 people in a empty server discussing which ns hax they had. in the game before the server emptied this guy fired his entire energy bar of lerk spikes in under a second.
The cheating death team does a good job of keeping up with new hacks, and since it uses the same methods of getting into the running code that hacks use, it is pretty much impossible to hide cheats once they are known and looked for.
So, if you have CD running, their is a good degree of confidence that nobody is cheating, and you don't have to deal with the bazillions of immature flame wars and claims of cheating such as you will see in the average pub fps game (any game I dont care, actually even non-fps games)
PS: please if you suspect someone of cheating don't call them a hacker. A hacker is a programmer with skill enough to modify other people's code or discover and exploit weaknesses in an executable. The person who created a cheat might be called a hacker, but the 12 year old who downloads and double clicks an installer is certainly not.
The paranoia is warranted. Playing with speed hackers and aimbotters doesn't make a for a good time.
You seem to overestimate the people that use h4x. People that use h4x aren't all master coders, they're lamer kids who've downloaded it from some website somewhere, as Shockwave mentioned, they couldn't hack their way out of a wet paper bag.
You can't get rid of all the cheaters (they are creative), but you can get rid of the less determined ones.