The Question Of Me And Girls

ConfuzorConfuzor Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2412Awaiting Authorization
<div class="IPBDescription">My thoughts: Criticize them please</div> Throughout everything I’ve seen in life so far, there appears to be two types of “I want a girl” type guy. There are those who are bold, and there are those who are shy. I suppose that I fit in the latter categorization, but it is not so much because I have trouble talking with girls. It is something else that interferes with me actually going out to find a girlfriend.

I do my best in adhering to Christian morals, and one thing that’s been made clear in the lessons that I’ve been taught: <b>Thou shall not fling</b>. I have no problem with this rule. In fact, I want any relationship with a girl to be a serious and mature one, not just one that lasts for a few months, limited just to high school, or simply breaks apart after one fight.

I have no beef with that rule… so what exactly is my problem?

I believe that all the problems I have in making the attempt to find a girlfriend lies on a stereotype I have for +90% of all girls: They want children. This is the excuse I give myself to blocking myself in finding a girlfriend.

So the next question posed: Why do I have a phobia of being a father?

1. Since I applied a stereotype to women, it would only be fair that a stereotype that is also slapped on me: the fear of responsibility, (in this case, being responsible for the lives of others). If I ever became a parent, I don’t ever want to parent the way that my dad does. Yet as time goes by, I notice striking resemblances between us, such as how stubborn we can both be at times. I can also be very laid back at times and not show importance to things that need attention. My biggest fear may be in enforcing discipline. Even at my age, I do show favour in the use corporal punishment, but I dread having to use it myself. I know discipline isn't necessarily restricted to corporal punishment, but I have doubts as to whether more mild-mannered discipline is truly effective or not. To not use discipline is just suicide; my kids would go nuts, and then I’d look like a jackass on shows like Maury for not knowing how to teach my kids and needing a bloody boot camp sergeant to teach own kids. MY OWN ******* KIDS. Should I reach this point, I feel it’s safe to say I failed as a father.

The positive side to this however, is that I’m interested in joining the army reserves. I just finished the 6-day military orientation advertised in my school bulletin yesterday, and I do intend to join the military. In terms of rank, I’d be willing to go up as high as a Sergeant, or a Master Warrant, (these ranks are from the Canadian military), so given time, I might be more inclined to use discipline, and effectively as well. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

2. I simply do not find today’s society fit for raising children. A crowded, urban life, where media and advertisements constantly bombard your face, is simply not fit for children. I’d much rather raise kids in a suburban area, or a rural area. Unfortunately I have zero experience with farm life, so I guess that leaves me with the suburbs. Still, I really pity what parents have to deal with their kids nowadays, than say fifty years ago. One thing that has truly changed is the family organization. My understanding now is that there is an increase in both parents going to work, instead of the traditional, husband gathers meat; wife attends to cave and children. I am in no way opposed to women wanting to get out in the open to do work, but honestly, I don’t think that a couple in which both spouses go to work should have children, unless they’re friggin super-machines that can dedicate energy effectively between, themselves, their children, and their work. Frankly, I don’t think I have what it takes to juggle all three successfully.

3. Related back to what was said in 2., my simple outlook on this world is that it sucks. Thus, why would I want to bring life into a world in which I deem to be unhealthy? In fact, my preference as of right now is that I’d rather <i>adopt</i> children, instead of having my own. There are kids out there that need help; I don’t have some retarded instinct concerning the need to “continue my genes “. To hell with that! <b>My</b> instinct is to help people. Orphans need help, so I’d be much more willing to care for an orphan than to bring yet another life to this world. Did I forget to mention that this world is already overpopulated?

Of course, the above three points obscure me based on the stereotype that girls want kids. Yet there must of course be a percentage of girls that don’t want kids. In fact, I’ve already met a girl that agrees with some of my ideas, and I’m a good friend with her. She herself isn’t interested in having kids either. However, I think she’s already stated that she’s not really into having a boyfriend, and I’m cool with that. In fact, there’s another girl I have a bit of a crush on, but I haven’t really talked to her too much. And honestly, if I did approach her, the first thing on my mind isn’t to ask her, “hey, do you want to have kids when you’re older?” Good God, that makes for a damn fine <b>scare tactic</b> when it comes to first impressions. But at the same time, I don’t want to have to spend so much time to her, and then having it all come to an end with our differing opinions on having kids. The positive side to it would be that I made a strong friend, BUT THAT’S NOT THE ORIGINAL POINT NOW, WAS IT?

There seems to be hope though. With the way society is going nowadays, it seems that women are becoming more interested in having a career than with having kids. Should this trend continue, then I might be pretty lucky in the near future. I think...

This concludes my thoughts.

Now please ridicule me.

Comments

  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    My only advice is to go with the flow. Do what you want to do, worry about things like kids later. You're not a father yet, are you? If your girlfriend wants to have kids, she's not going to want them RIGHT THEN, most likely. You never know. When she's ready to have kids, you might be ready to have a father. Your best shot at being in a relationship is to ignore your assumption. (It's not a stereotype, stereotypes need to be based on truth to be a stereotype.) Just do it. Don't bother asking her, she'll tell you if she really feels that she has to have kids.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Your thinking ahead of yourself here. You are trying to tackle issues that you won't have to deal with for some time. The first half of dating is learning about people. The second half is actually finding a compatible "mate/life-partner/whatever" You are at the first half of this stage. Don't push yourself into the second when you haven't gotten through the first.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    like the guys said you're thinking too fast, too far. I've yet to see anything like...

    <b>boy:</b> "want to go out with me?"
    <b>girl:</b> "sure... lets have kids"

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Despite being right, you probably shouldn't listen to Gem. I think she is cat-people and you don't need cat-people's advice mmmk?

    Just waiting for my response eh?
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    Dude, be happy where your at, and surely goodness shall follow later in life. Be thankful for who you are and where your at. Finding a girl isn't an easy job, and I wouldn't know, because I haven't been at that stage yet. But that doesn't mean I have not talked to girls and whatnot. I just find that having a girlfriend is not on the top of my list, but rather reserved, possibly, for later life. If you really want to find a girlfriend, just follow what most guys follow. Read magazines like cosmo, but most importantly, don't listen to guys, or the guys that are in it for the sex, like my friend; he is mostly in it for the pleasure. Ironic? yes. But the flow is the what the media produces. One of the things that defers me from such relationships is the process of getting to know someone and the stereotypes and messages that the media pumps out to a lot of girls, which results in the dumbness that is found in some. And commitment and seriousness that often leads to emotional breakups and mental breakdowns. I really want to live my life now as it is, improve my inner self, and offer humanity what I have, before I move to later things. There have been times in my life, where I regret so many things, like my childhood. But I know all is forgiven by the almighty-though it feels at many a time like they haven't. Anyways, just be glad, and hope for the best, or that God will take care of things.
  • ConfuzorConfuzor Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2412Awaiting Authorization
    Hmm, my future planning must have something to do with my extreme anti-carpe diem philosophy, no? In any case, thanks for the input. I'll still come up with more excuses anyways... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    And yeah, I don't feel a strong need for a girlfriend yet either, I originally planned to never get married in the first place; thinking I could get all the companionship I needed from a pet. But as I thought about it further, I realized it was the "being a father" aspect that was most worrisome to me. Only time will tell...

    Cheers to not having been created as an asexual species!
  • BOOBOO Join Date: 2003-07-28 Member: 18504Members
    edited October 2003
    ok hmmmm

    yeah always just be happy where your at
    its your life dont let any peer pressure make u think o im weird im single!
    its your life <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->


    alot of guys are afraid of that ^_^
    cause its a commitment u can not back out of
    and commitment scares alot of guys.
    especially one with such responsiblity put on the father
    so yeah u have every right to feel that way <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    You sound like you're just looking for excuses not to have to get to know girls, or make any effort. You're a shy, awkward guy, and you don't have what it takes to just go out and take what you want [women], so you make excuses... you convince yourself that it's not worth it, that women are stupid stereotypes, you make out that you're just doing what Jesus wants you to do.

    Now, it's pretty obvious from the word 'go' that the internet communities will be filled with awkward and shy people, anti-social people, wacko people, religious people, illogical people, etc etc. And I don't know why I go to these threads. Maybe to show myself just how I SHOULD NOT be, how I SHOULD NOT think. I certainly don't go to them to help people - nothing short of a miracle or a revolution in your way of thinking could help you.

    Anyway, I got sidetracked while i was writing this - my finger started bleeding. So I'll just end it here.
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