me, and all the other people in cal clans == winarrs! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
and leme restate that i think this is one of flay's best ideas ever, NS can topple cs with action like this...
i cant wait to get a chance to help the game thats caused me so much fun <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--CommunistWithAGun+Nov 2 2003, 12:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Nov 2 2003, 12:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 2 2003, 03:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 2 2003, 03:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just what we need, more elitists in the community :/
How about instead of clanners Flayra chooses active members from popular servers? It'd be nice to... you know... get a different perspective on the game then all 12 clanners. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I want to see a large pool of random community members randomly selected regardless of ability to shoot things and click "Place resource tower" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I dont know why people think that being on the internet magically disspells any and all elitism. Vets get their elitism for being the best, whether or not they playtest makes no difference, and thing in the entire world that involves skill will always have elitism. If you dont like it, you should go play bingo at your local church.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->veteran adj : rendered competent through trial and experience; "troops seasoned in combat"; "a seasoned traveler"; "veteran steadiness"; "a veteran officer" [syn: seasoned, veteran(a)] n 1: a serviceman who has seen considerable active service; "the veterans laughed at the new recruits" [syn: veteran soldier] 2: a person who has served in the armed forces [syn: vet, ex-serviceman] 3: an experienced person who has been through many battles; someone who has given long service [syn: old-timer, oldtimer, old hand, warhorse, old stager, stager] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--snozzle+Nov 2 2003, 02:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (snozzle @ Nov 2 2003, 02:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i think this is all about the icons. thats what everyone wants!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The angry bunny icons? pft to that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Impy_The_Lerk+Nov 2 2003, 01:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Impy_The_Lerk @ Nov 2 2003, 01:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->veteran adj : rendered competent through trial and experience; "troops seasoned in combat"; "a seasoned traveler"; "veteran steadiness"; "a veteran officer" [syn: seasoned, veteran(a)] n 1: a serviceman who has seen considerable active service; "the veterans laughed at the new recruits" [syn: veteran soldier] 2: a person who has served in the armed forces [syn: vet, ex-serviceman] 3: an experienced person who has been through many battles; someone who has given long service [syn: old-timer, oldtimer, old hand, warhorse, old stager, stager] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
uhh no where in there does it mention skill. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I hate to say this but skill comes with playing a lot and also comes with experience. If you do not have skill and you're naturally good at a game then you're one of few. The rest of us have to play a shitload to get 'skilled.'
<!--QuoteBegin--kuperaye+Nov 2 2003, 01:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kuperaye @ Nov 2 2003, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> last not to take a pot shot at you... ACTIVE CLANS IN CAL... i remember animosity not being in cal and not scrimming :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> HAMBONE will choose clans who are active in scrimmages not CAL. I think people have really messed up the message here. If you're actively scrimming at least once or twice or more a week then he will give you vet status.
<!--QuoteBegin--Zephor+Nov 2 2003, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zephor @ Nov 2 2003, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hate to say this but skill comes with playing a lot and also comes with experience. If you do not have skill and you're naturally good at a game then you're one of few. The rest of us have to play a shitload to get 'skilled.' <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> My point was that the vet program shouldnt have to do with who is the most skilled greatest ns player, sure people in cal are mostly very good players (thats kinda beside the point)
its more about how long and how devoted to the game u are, the word Vetran implies (Time/Dedication) and Intelegence.
<!--QuoteBegin--Impy_The_Lerk+Nov 2 2003, 01:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Impy_The_Lerk @ Nov 2 2003, 01:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zephor+Nov 2 2003, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zephor @ Nov 2 2003, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hate to say this but skill comes with playing a lot and also comes with experience. If you do not have skill and you're naturally good at a game then you're one of few. The rest of us have to play a shitload to get 'skilled.' <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> My point was that the vet program shouldnt have to do with who is the most skilled greatest ns player, sure people in cal are mostly very good players (thats kinda beside the point)
its more about how long and how devoted to the game u are, the word Vetran implies (Time/Dedication) and Intelegence.
-Impy <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> THe skilled players in CAL usually imply that they practice a lot and live and breath just as much as they play ns. I will not believe that some clan that gets 2-0ed every game they play will be able to tell us how to pull off strats or even know about them. They will not know if a game is inbalanced because if you like it or not, you will not notice these things unless you've played for a long time. You're not going to have ANY clan who have played a long time and are not skilled.
also, I hate to say this, but lots of practice and experience isn't enough for being a good player. Look at me, I'm still such a bad player <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
We'll be making a big public announcement about all this with the details this week. If you have any questions in the mean-time, head to #findnsscrim and lookup HAMBONE.
<!--QuoteBegin--Firewater+Nov 2 2003, 01:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Firewater @ Nov 2 2003, 01:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I dont know why people think that being on the internet magically disspells any and all elitism. Vets get their elitism for being the best, whether or not they playtest makes no difference, and thing in the entire world that involves skill will always have elitism. If you dont like it, you should go play bingo at your local church. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Very well put by a fellow veteran. (yes, I am in the new wave of vets coming in) Uranium, put away your retarded stereotype of all vets being jerks please, try to be fair. I mean... you're telling me if you asked to be a veteran, you would reject the idea?
I think a lot of people are missing the point here. The whole point, from my understanding, was to get active clans into the beta to have scrims with other active clans. This way when 2.1 is released publically clan play is balanced, creating a much smoother transition.
rawr i think its great considering most the old clans that were playtesting have died out leaving the vet program kinda in the dust. Now with HAMBONE in the lead and the new bevy of clans to scrim and play matches, I know the vet program will get good things accomplished.
HAMBoneProbably the best CommanderJoin Date: 2003-04-02Member: 15139Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
This isnt about being in CAL or being a well known clan. This is about actively testing the beta patches. We dont care if you started your clan a year ago, a month ago, yesterday, or tomorrow. We dont care where your clan is located or what leagues you are currently enrolled in. What we care about is active scrimming and testing in beta builds of Natural Selection. This means that ANYONE can create a team and start playtesting the build as soon as this week. Your clan will be judged on activity and maturity, not skill or teamwork. This is a great opportunity - not only for anyone interested to playtest the builds and get their opinions heard, but also a great opportunity for people to join a clan and experience clan play in a semi-controlled environment without all the drama and nonsense regularly associated with clan play. The program will begin shortly and believe me, you'll know when it happens. In the meantime, if you have any questions, feel free to send me a PM or message me on IRC. I can be found in #findnsscrim on gamesnet, and #ns.search on Quakenet. I will also be idling on the enterthegame network shortly.
Flayra, continue supporting this course of action and you may quickly find yourself without allies. Just a heads-up. While the clan scene is deserving of your attention, the public scene is too. Don't forget about that.
<!--QuoteBegin--Redford+Nov 2 2003, 07:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Nov 2 2003, 07:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flayra, continue supporting this course of action and you may quickly find yourself without allies. Just a heads-up. While the clan scene is deserving of your attention, the public scene is too. Don't forget about that.
That's all I have to say about this in paticular. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> post of the day
I agree all pubbers should hate flayra. im not sure why and have no reasoning to back this up I just think they should.
On another note this whole thing is just and underhanded advertisement drive by lux to get ppl to idle in findnsscrim. I have this on the best authority. My cat told me.
<!--QuoteBegin--Redford+Nov 2 2003, 06:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Nov 2 2003, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flayra, continue supporting this course of action and you may quickly find yourself without allies. Just a heads-up. While the clan scene is deserving of your attention, the public scene is too. Don't forget about that.
That's all I have to say about this in paticular. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'll have to say if this does happen it'll kill NS for me.
your saying the vetran program, something that has been designed and allways been handed out to clan players.... should now be handed out to people who play on pubs?
how shile we pick it draw straws?
this is rediculous, not only does it make no sence.... theres no point in giving it to pub players as they are unreachable....
people come to the vet program and prove themselvs by showing promis and commitment, the vet program doesnt go seek out them.
Flayra makes games, not mind controll devices.
EDIT: and one more thing: Somone plz lock this thred before it gets totaly flamed out of controll
Oh yes, why not let any nubceak/lamer who can slap a tag on and scrim get the beta sounds like a great idea to me. Flay the community is already shifting into negitivity and this will literaly only tear the community apart.
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me, and all the other people in cal clans == winarrs! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
and leme restate that i think this is one of flay's best ideas ever, NS can topple cs with action like this...
i cant wait to get a chance to help the game thats caused me so much fun <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
-Impy <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo-->
How about instead of clanners Flayra chooses active members from popular servers? It'd be nice to... you know... get a different perspective on the game then all 12 clanners. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I want to see a large pool of random community members randomly selected regardless of ability to shoot things and click "Place resource tower" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I dont know why people think that being on the internet magically disspells any and all elitism. Vets get their elitism for being the best, whether or not they playtest makes no difference, and thing in the entire world that involves skill will always have elitism. If you dont like it, you should go play bingo at your local church.
adj : rendered competent through trial and experience; "troops
seasoned in combat"; "a seasoned traveler"; "veteran
steadiness"; "a veteran officer" [syn: seasoned, veteran(a)]
n 1: a serviceman who has seen considerable active service; "the
veterans laughed at the new recruits" [syn: veteran
soldier]
2: a person who has served in the armed forces [syn: vet, ex-serviceman]
3: an experienced person who has been through many battles;
someone who has given long service [syn: old-timer, oldtimer,
old hand, warhorse, old stager, stager]
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uhh no where in there does it mention skill.
The angry bunny icons? pft to that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
/me ducks for DXO's blow
adj : rendered competent through trial and experience; "troops
seasoned in combat"; "a seasoned traveler"; "veteran
steadiness"; "a veteran officer" [syn: seasoned, veteran(a)]
n 1: a serviceman who has seen considerable active service; "the
veterans laughed at the new recruits" [syn: veteran
soldier]
2: a person who has served in the armed forces [syn: vet, ex-serviceman]
3: an experienced person who has been through many battles;
someone who has given long service [syn: old-timer, oldtimer,
old hand, warhorse, old stager, stager]
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
uhh no where in there does it mention skill. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I hate to say this but skill comes with playing a lot and also comes with experience. If you do not have skill and you're naturally good at a game then you're one of few. The rest of us have to play a shitload to get 'skilled.'
correct?
HAMBONE will choose clans who are active in scrimmages not CAL. I think people have really messed up the message here. If you're actively scrimming at least once or twice or more a week then he will give you vet status.
My point was that the vet program shouldnt have to do with who is the most skilled greatest ns player, sure people in cal are mostly very good players (thats kinda beside the point)
its more about how long and how devoted to the game u are, the word Vetran implies (Time/Dedication) and Intelegence.
-Impy <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo-->
My point was that the vet program shouldnt have to do with who is the most skilled greatest ns player, sure people in cal are mostly very good players (thats kinda beside the point)
its more about how long and how devoted to the game u are, the word Vetran implies (Time/Dedication) and Intelegence.
-Impy <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
THe skilled players in CAL usually imply that they practice a lot and live and breath just as much as they play ns. I will not believe that some clan that gets 2-0ed every game they play will be able to tell us how to pull off strats or even know about them. They will not know if a game is inbalanced because if you like it or not, you will not notice these things unless you've played for a long time. You're not going to have ANY clan who have played a long time and are not skilled.
Very well put by a fellow veteran. (yes, I am in the new wave of vets coming in) Uranium, put away your retarded stereotype of all vets being jerks please, try to be fair. I mean... you're telling me if you asked to be a veteran, you would reject the idea?
You have to regularly be scrimming via #findnsscrim to be able to take advantage of this opportunity.
gl in life uranium, jealuosy is bad mojo.
That's all I have to say about this in paticular.
That's all I have to say about this in paticular. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
post of the day
On another note this whole thing is just and underhanded advertisement drive by lux to get ppl to idle in findnsscrim. I have this on the best authority. My cat told me.
LOOOL!
and i think redford smokes something illigal.
That's all I have to say about this in paticular. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll have to say if this does happen it'll kill NS for me.
your saying the vetran program, something that has been designed and allways been handed out to clan players.... should now be handed out to people who play on pubs?
how shile we pick it draw straws?
this is rediculous, not only does it make no sence.... theres no point in giving it to pub players as they are unreachable....
people come to the vet program and prove themselvs by showing promis and commitment, the vet program doesnt go seek out them.
Flayra makes games, not mind controll devices.
EDIT: and one more thing: Somone plz lock this thred before it gets totaly flamed out of controll