<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>EXCLUSIVE TO NSARMSLAB</span>
Stop giving this "to a friend who wont leak".
I dont want to see this going down the drain because of crappy versions etc. Lets wait until we have atleast one properly working version and release then.
I'll check ingame tomorrow, but after looking at it in HLMV it looks very nice, great origins but some of the anims, like the reload, have some moments where the arm doesn't move at all, for a long time, that's a bit weird and unhuman, maybe try to add a little bit of motion to those parts
I dont want to see this going down the drain because of crappy versions etc. Lets wait until we have atleast one properly working version and release then.
Umm, Andersen, after ignoring my messages for two weeks, that's a hell of a way to come at me. I wanted some feedback, and since I never heard from you, I sought other help. This is a crappy BETA release that I put out to 5 volunteers knowing it has some bugs so I could get some suggestions. It also might have been nice to be told from you originally that you planned to make it "exclusive", instead of me hearing second hand. Now I love your work, don't want to turn this into a ****ing match, just want to stay cool, but that could have been approached a whole lot better....
the default HMG, has a more difficult way of reloading, so it takes longer the Warspikes reload normally wouldn't take this long, so it was like, stretched to fit the long default animation
the animation needs a lot of work. and the origin is too low; but when I moved the origin up by 2 units, it looked VERY "pointy" at the end... longer than it should look. i guess to fix that you have to shorten the entire model and make it wider at the end?
how are the <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> animations doing?
~_~ So preeety. I think that it should be protruding from the bottom right hand side of the screen though... not handled like the LMG etc. I mean it would block off alot of the screen, but when dealing with massive firepower, you usually want to use the stock/pad system.
(happy new year btw <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )
I believe the concept for the weapon was drawn by someone on the Polycount forums, if my memory holds after thirty pages and a few weeks of not paying close attention to this particular thread.
Fury, you seem to be the center of a lot of trouble recently. I won't theorize whether it's your fault or everyone else's, but since you seem to be the one being such a catalyst, it might be best for you to cool off for a bit. I'd suggest the same to anyone and everyone else who likes to take part in the arguments.
No screaming, no bolding, no capping, no enlarged text, egos or phallic symbols of any kind. Yes? Please?
As for the "exclusive" issue, I would have to say--since there are apparently such different opinions [or something] between the people who worked on the model in some form or other--an impartial mediary might be best to resolve the issue [seeing as it was not a concept dreamed up by any of you to begin with, if I'm not mistaken]. Can't solve it peacefully, give it up to a judge and <i>shut up</i>. None of you is helping this go anywhere but to temporary or permanent bandom by reaming anyone else out.
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edited January 2004
I just moved three pages of yelling and insults out of this thread - namely, the last three pages excepting a *very* few on-topic posts.
Regarding this thread: if you're not talking about the progress of the Warspike model, skin, or animations, DON'T BOTHER POSTING IN HERE.
Regarding exclusivity: this is a discussion that needs to happen between the modeler, skinner, and animator. It does not belong here, and the opinions of the rest of this forum really don't matter one whit. Andersen, you and Brimstone and Bots need to discuss this thoroughly, and in private - and you need to come to an agreement that you all are happy with. If you can't, then you have to respect their right to withdraw their contributions to the model.
My personal opinion: as long as the model can be downloaded for free *somewhere*, what does it matter if there's only one place to get it? If Armslab were going to be charging money, then I'd take issue -- but despite what all of you are screaming in your half-baked, knee-jerk reactions, NO ONE IS PLANNING ON MAKING YOU PAY FOR THIS MODEL. So please re-engage your brains and <i>use them</i> before you go off half-c<b>o</b>cked again.
The next time this thread degenerates, it's getting locked for good. Do *not* bring up the exclusivity argument here. It is not your argument to have.
I hope this model gets finished and released soon; it looks fantastic so far.
By "presumptuous," I was alluding to the fact that my previous post came out feeling far more demanding than I'd intended, despite wording it all as best I could in the form of simple suggestions. I wasn't trying to come off as though I were trying to police anyone, only as though I were offering alternatives to fighting and such.
I won't release it without testing, as I want the animations to match the high quality of mesh and skin. Since Andersen objects to my testing, I'm afraid it's on hold until he changes his mind, or provides testers acceptible to him.
What's the point of letting NSA testing it (no offence, but i don't see the point of more testers) when we've already got 5 testers?
The animations are flawless and any previous comments by me are null since having watched them again (and again and again and again etc) in a private (i.e just me) lan server against bots they are perfect for the HMG and although the reload one is too long, it is not your fault and i cannot think of something better than what you have done.
What is so wrong about 5 testers? They are all trusted AFAIK and i have not seen any of them do anything wrong like leak a model etc.
Can we all stop arguing and release the model please?
I'm sure people will actually want to use it, instead of hearing all this arguing about exclusive rights nonsense
im agains exclusiveness. i didnt knew there where 5 testers allready i was just trying to give some people for testing that can be slaped to death because we know there names photos living places 8)
<!--QuoteBegin--Dillinja+Jan 6 2004, 02:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dillinja @ Jan 6 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its free so stop demanding.
the skin release was christmas and it was released at christmas. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> are you being aggresive to me? i am not to be bashed around... not all new ppl are n00bas
not by far <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Stop giving this "to a friend who wont leak".
I dont want to see this going down the drain because of crappy versions etc. Lets wait until we have atleast one properly working version and release then.
Thank you.
but some of the anims, like the reload, have some moments where the arm doesn't move at all, for a long time, that's a bit weird and unhuman, maybe try to add a little bit of motion to those parts
the peewees are well done too, gj !
Stop giving this "to a friend who wont leak".
I dont want to see this going down the drain because of crappy versions etc. Lets wait until we have atleast one properly working version and release then.
Thank you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
eh
Now I love your work, don't want to turn this into a ****ing match, just want to stay cool, but that could have been approached a whole lot better....
Only fault i have with the reload animation is when he goes to remove the clip, its seems a bit to jagged/slow... i dunno, maybe its just me?
the Warspikes reload normally wouldn't take this long, so it was like, stretched to fit the long default animation
maybe this would be better as a LMG replacement?
how are the <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> animations doing?
progress/status?
(happy new year btw <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )
Fury, you seem to be the center of a lot of trouble recently. I won't theorize whether it's your fault or everyone else's, but since you seem to be the one being such a catalyst, it might be best for you to cool off for a bit. I'd suggest the same to anyone and everyone else who likes to take part in the arguments.
No screaming, no bolding, no capping, no enlarged text, egos or phallic symbols of any kind. Yes? Please?
As for the "exclusive" issue, I would have to say--since there are apparently such different opinions [or something] between the people who worked on the model in some form or other--an impartial mediary might be best to resolve the issue [seeing as it was not a concept dreamed up by any of you to begin with, if I'm not mistaken]. Can't solve it peacefully, give it up to a judge and <i>shut up</i>. None of you is helping this go anywhere but to temporary or permanent bandom by reaming anyone else out.
Sorry, that sounds terribly presumtuous...
Regarding this thread: if you're not talking about the progress of the Warspike model, skin, or animations, DON'T BOTHER POSTING IN HERE.
Regarding exclusivity: this is a discussion that needs to happen between the modeler, skinner, and animator. It does not belong here, and the opinions of the rest of this forum really don't matter one whit. Andersen, you and Brimstone and Bots need to discuss this thoroughly, and in private - and you need to come to an agreement that you all are happy with. If you can't, then you have to respect their right to withdraw their contributions to the model.
My personal opinion: as long as the model can be downloaded for free *somewhere*, what does it matter if there's only one place to get it? If Armslab were going to be charging money, then I'd take issue -- but despite what all of you are screaming in your half-baked, knee-jerk reactions, NO ONE IS PLANNING ON MAKING YOU PAY FOR THIS MODEL. So please re-engage your brains and <i>use them</i> before you go off half-c<b>o</b>cked again.
The next time this thread degenerates, it's getting locked for good. Do *not* bring up the exclusivity argument here. It is not your argument to have.
I hope this model gets finished and released soon; it looks fantastic so far.
The animations are flawless and any previous comments by me are null since having watched them again (and again and again and again etc) in a private (i.e just me) lan server against bots they are perfect for the HMG and although the reload one is too long, it is not your fault and i cannot think of something better than what you have done.
What is so wrong about 5 testers? They are all trusted AFAIK and i have not seen any of them do anything wrong like leak a model etc.
Can we all stop arguing and release the model please?
I'm sure people will actually want to use it, instead of hearing all this arguing about exclusive rights nonsense
u missunderstood my post completly
im agains exclusiveness. i didnt knew there where 5 testers allready i was just trying to give some people for testing that can be slaped to death because we know there names photos living places 8)
yep... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
the skin release was christmas and it was released at christmas.
the skin release was christmas and it was released at christmas. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
are you being aggresive to me? i am not to be bashed around... not all new ppl are n00bas
not by far <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->