Onos Devour Prevention

Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
<div class="IPBDescription">another type of lameness?</div> We all know the kill to prevent devouring - This can be stopped with the easy killdelay command.
Then there's always the retry command, if your suicide didn't work out in time. (losing a bit more time but whatever)

But this thing just totally surprised me, I saw a SCRIPT made to prevent onos eating! It looked like something:
"say_team Onos will devour me whatever blahblahblah" and proceeded with a weapon drop, a little readyrooming then finishing with a quick jointeamone

So do we need a f4ing period? That is just one of the worst scripts ever!

Comments

  • SilverAxSilverAx Join Date: 2003-10-26 Member: 21976Members
    At the moment devouring is too easy and indeed very tedious sit there and wiat to be 'passed' through it's gut. It's also worse to spawn then be devoured immediately by a spawn camping Ono.

    It needs to be addressed.
  • SensemannSensemann Join Date: 2003-11-01 Member: 22194Members
    i agree its pretty boring to sit up to 30 sec inside that onos. Also, the range an onos can eat you surprised me several times, to say it gentle

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
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    high |
    wall |
    ____ <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> *hop* *eat*
  • FrikkFrikk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3164Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--SilverAx+Nov 6 2003, 02:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SilverAx @ Nov 6 2003, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At the moment devouring is too easy and indeed very tedious sit there and wiat to be 'passed' through it's gut. It's also worse to spawn then be devoured immediately by a spawn camping Ono.

    It needs to be addressed. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you get bored waiting for an onos to poop you out, you need to realize that it's just a game. Stand up, and stretch. Lean back, and take a deep breath for a second. Type out some derogitory remarks to your team mates. Insult the onos who is eating you, call his mother a dirty space-cow. There's plenty of things that you can do, so as not to be bored.
    What would you propose to do to fix a onos who just sits next to an ip eating people? Make him have a gag reflex and puke anytime somebody phases in near him? We could say that the Phase disrupts his digestion and gives him heart burn.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    If you get bored while in the onos and wanna watch the action, just remember next time to hold down the +use key as you are being eaten.

    This way, you can enjoy the ride.
  • SuddenFearSuddenFear Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17571Members
    Personally, I prefer using "timerefresh" while being digested. :D

    And there's only so much you can do to battle such lamers. Putting a lock on f4ing would ruin more games then it saves (can't even teams and the like). The best prevention for this, like with many other annoying actions, is to have a crack squad of admins on the server.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SilverAx+Nov 6 2003, 04:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SilverAx @ Nov 6 2003, 04:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At the moment devouring is too easy and indeed very tedious sit there and wiat to be 'passed' through it's gut. It's also worse to spawn then be devoured immediately by a spawn camping Ono.

    It needs to be addressed. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you missed my point: the problem is not about people devouring too easily, it's more like how some people just prevent the normal outcome of the game.

    Yes, I agree that REMOVING f4 would be horrible, but we'd need at least a limit to prevent exploiting.
  • criticaIcriticaI Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15269Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+Nov 6 2003, 11:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Nov 6 2003, 11:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SilverAx+Nov 6 2003, 04:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SilverAx @ Nov 6 2003, 04:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At the moment devouring is too easy and indeed very tedious sit there and wiat to be 'passed' through it's gut. It's also worse to spawn then be devoured immediately by a spawn camping Ono.

    It needs to be addressed. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you missed my point: the problem is not about people devouring too easily, it's more like how some people just prevent the normal outcome of the game.

    Yes, I agree that REMOVING f4 would be horrible, but we'd need at least a limit to prevent exploiting. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "Blah Blah blah blah blah"

    We can't code morality. If people are going to be "lame" they'll find a way. I've seen this maybe 1/1000 onos devour attempts. Is it really that big of a deal? NOPE.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SilverAx+Nov 6 2003, 10:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SilverAx @ Nov 6 2003, 10:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At the moment devouring is too easy and indeed very tedious sit there and wiat to be 'passed' through it's gut. It's also worse to spawn then be devoured immediately by a spawn camping Ono.

    It needs to be addressed. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    if you let aliens get onos u deserve to be spawn camp devoured
  • xl-cowxl-cow Join Date: 2003-09-24 Member: 21163Members
    No, spawn camping is retarded - in all situations. The goal should be killing the round as quickly as possible, not seeing how many kills you can get. THa'ts a by-product.

    F4ing is a policy left up to the administrators and the variable that they are around to see it.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--cri.tical+Nov 6 2003, 03:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cri.tical @ Nov 6 2003, 03:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+Nov 6 2003, 11:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Nov 6 2003, 11:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SilverAx+Nov 6 2003, 04:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SilverAx @ Nov 6 2003, 04:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At the moment devouring is too easy and indeed very tedious sit there and wiat to be 'passed' through it's gut. It's also worse to spawn then be devoured immediately by a spawn camping Ono.

    It needs to be addressed. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you missed my point: the problem is not about people devouring too easily, it's more like how some people just prevent the normal outcome of the game.

    Yes, I agree that REMOVING f4 would be horrible, but we'd need at least a limit to prevent exploiting. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "Blah Blah blah blah blah"

    We can't code morality. If people are going to be "lame" they'll find a way. I've seen this maybe 1/1000 onos devour attempts. Is it really that big of a deal? NOPE. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, not to mention critical that if someone goes to the readyroom in a CAL match they can kiss their **** goodbye.


    Really, do you need to f4 over just hitting the kill command before you are eaten? That is leagal by CAL-NS standards, and I personally have to qualms with it. I used to, but not anymore.

    Actually what's really funny to do is stomp a LA marine, walk up to them like you will eat them, but then walk away and go for someone else, it's always a good laugh when the retard dies from hitting the kill command 2 seconds later.


    Also, using the kill command or f4 isn't really feasible if you have upgrades, for there is always an off chance you could be saved.
  • AngeluszAngelusz Harmonic entropist Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18072Members, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    the big point is:
    -being eaten is annoying.
    second point:
    -preventing yourself from getting eaten is lame.

    sollution:
    remove devour, or make it faster.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Archon+Nov 6 2003, 04:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Archon @ Nov 6 2003, 04:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the big point is:
    -being eaten is annoying.
    second point:
    -preventing yourself from getting eaten is lame.

    sollution:
    remove devour, or make it faster. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    make it faster? the point of devour is to TAKE the marine out of play for 30 seconds at full hp so it gives the aliens an upper hand say its 7v6 marines, 1 in comm that makes 6, 1 gets devoured that makes 5, thats 1 less marine u have to worry about killing you, now people do **** it and yes it gets annoying but its part of the game deal with it, i in fact like devour ven when im devoured i still dont mind
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    the big point is most players can't live with part of the game.

    Forlorn: my point is, f4-jointeamone also works on killdelayed servers. And also, we're talking about a slim chance of survival because were talking pubs
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Nov 6 2003, 09:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Nov 6 2003, 09:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you get bored while in the onos and wanna watch the action, just remember next time to hold down the +use key as you are being eaten.

    This way, you can enjoy the ride. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What does holding the 'use' key do, exactly?
  • napalmnapalm Join Date: 2003-05-20 Member: 16533Members
    I like to snipe with devour, they dont expect your mouth to just leap forward 6 feet like that
  • killswitchkillswitch Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13141Members, Constellation
    Although a bit unrealistic, I imagine devour to be something like this:

    The muffled sound was still in, but you could also 'see' outside the stomach with some translucent haze like the gestating egg. Of course I know the onos body is thick as alien-hide but it would give us something to do at least.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Dragon_Mech+Nov 6 2003, 11:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Nov 6 2003, 11:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Nov 6 2003, 09:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Nov 6 2003, 09:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you get bored while in the onos and wanna watch the action, just remember next time to hold down the +use key as you are being eaten.

    This way, you can enjoy the ride. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What does holding the 'use' key do, exactly? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you don't see the sprite covering your view
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Just ban abusers, for a stress free existance.

    I suggest something like

    "You f4ed out of an onos, bai bai" kickban wonid.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Dragon_Mech+Nov 6 2003, 05:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Nov 6 2003, 05:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Nov 6 2003, 09:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Nov 6 2003, 09:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you get bored while in the onos and wanna watch the action, just remember next time to hold down the +use key as you are being eaten.

    This way, you can enjoy the ride. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What does holding the 'use' key do, exactly? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    See for yourself, it's fun to go on the onos ride!


    And no, it's not an exploit that will get you banned.
  • SWAT_PointmanSWAT_Pointman Join Date: 2003-10-05 Member: 21458Members
    Sounds like really good idea FRikk
  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Archon+Nov 6 2003, 04:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Archon @ Nov 6 2003, 04:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the big point is:
    -being eaten is annoying.
    second point:
    -preventing yourself from getting eaten is lame.

    sollution:
    remove devour, or make it faster. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Gee for that matter there are lots of things that are annoying:

    * dying in any other manner
    * waiting to respawn
    * not getting a good weapon
    * having your hive destroyed
    * having your base destroyed

    So, I guess to make the game the best, we should just, uh, remove all that stuff.
  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    A tip:

    Have a key bound to drop your weapon. That way, if you know you're gonna get eaten, drop your weapon. Your not gonna kill the Onos anyway, but this way he cant run off with your expensive HMG or GL and poop it out far from your teammates. If you drop it then hopefully someone else can pick it up (especially if you get stomp-devour sniped out of a group).
  • MercsDragonMercsDragon Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6963Members
    Solution to people that exploit to get around things like devour = admins...

    I'd sooner have devour how it is than have it extreamly quick. Right now an onos can take a heavy like he should be able to 20res vs 100res, an onos should make quick work of a heavy, but not a squad. If it were quicker, onos would be able to quickly wipe out squads of heavies. I agree it is boaring to wait, but love insulting the onos and begging for my life. I usually promise them a cookie if they let me out <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->. My only problem with devour is that it's effect is too high, I get devoured as a jper way too much when I'm flying by an onos
  • Asal_The_UnforgivingAsal_The_Unforgiving Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14903Members
    I just throw down my gun, sit up, and start flinging dirty comments like there's no tomorrow......
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