Explanation on why marines cant play out doors

dragonsblade

<div class="IPBDescription">Going with marin tech that is</div>the marines cant play in vat outdoors because there nano building sytem wuoldnt be there so they wuoldnt be able to build or drop medpacks because theres no place for the nano stream to flow to get there. so marines comander wuold be pretty usless outdores.

DeathWish

That's, uh, nice to know.

Rob

Well, it would be more along the lines of:

"Marine commanders need to use security cameras and equipment to direct their marines.  Since none of this exists in large quantity outdoors, the marines cannont effectivly use the command station."

Well, that's what we've been told, anyway.



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DOOManiac

uhh...

so umm...

hi?

Nemesis_Zero

I agree with DOOM.

C0nan_The_Librarian

nver thought about it but your right.

Ginger

well about you just us a power source? like a big genrator or somthink like that?

Gwahir

if your saying that a later version of ns could allow outside venues by the way that you must use nano-generators, and surveilance buildings in order for the commander to operate there.  That could have balance issues as it would be like building a power network, marine expansion would be slow and require a specially built map.  Also, these buildings would need to be cheap so as to be easily replaced as there will need to be several that each exist at the edge of another.

I would suggest that in such a case, maybe one should allow the nano generator, but remain unrealistic for surveilance.

Jammer

Just to prove how stupid your post is, here is an explanation of why marines CAN have outdoor bases:

Commanders  generate nanotech cameras which float X meters above each marines head. Combined with the personal nanotech beam system equipped on each marine, the commander needs only to beam nanotech instructions and resources to the marine's area, and the nanotech beam system will create the desired material. No cameras or external nanotech structure neccesary.

<!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> See? A better explanation for few outdoor would be 'Aliens have not yet started colonizing the feral planets humanity resides on.'

Though I would like to see city maps where the aliens have landed. Allies and catwalks and cramped buildings. Preserve NS Claustrophobia, fresh enviorment.

MooMoo_the_SnowCow

If your outside the commander can use a satilte or something... and you lost me on the nano tech not working outside.

coil

Check out <a href="http://www.natural-selection.org/sanjii.php" target="_blank">Six Day in Sanjii</a> for a great story that also outlines how marine buildings, weapons, and other dropped items are constructed through nanotechnology.  It's actually by extension a good rationale against TSA outdoor missions - good call!

realityisdead

From my understanding, there are no outdoors levels in NS because it simply is not the atmosphere or environment that these guys want in the game. There are several other technical and balance issues with outdoors areas as well (eg. lerks flying, no ceilings for skulks, a marine advantage balance issue, etc).



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SentrySteve

Ken has it all wrong - if it were outdoors the marines would have no where to go to the  bathroom!  The space stations have these special bathrooms and the marine does not even have to get out of his armor!

.. now ..

Where are these bathrooms outdoors??

I rest my case.

(Actually, if you were looking for a real answer, kens is it)

Jammer

And luckily, because of the static nature of the future, new technology allows marines to construct outside if the need arises blah blah blah.

IMHO, there is no reason to come up with a 'story' for why there aren't outside maps.

dragonsblade

well thnxs coil for your support and for the others  soo far there is no outside build tech and possibly never will so there <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->

sharpsword6

Thnx for the info dragonsblade i think i will um nice to meet you

dragonsblade

i was one of the only people to read six days in sanji i guess because thats whwere i got my info.

Longtooth

If they are build with micro technoligy it wouldn't be that difficult to take things outdoors...You could make a small carry on pack that acts like a jump gate.  The gate could then beam in a stream of nano's that could then quickly establish an infrastructer where you happen to be.  Micro technologies are always expandable that is why they are so focused on in many Sci Fi works.

DarkAngelZLT

ok, now why dont we have reasons/stories for why there are no maps set in an ice-cream store, or an oversized kitchen, or a destruction derby...

If you had to explain why things <i>arnt</i> in it, you would have to explain infinite things! <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

dragonsblade

i was explaining acording to what the dev team wanted so it wuold be indoors for tension resions and ho hard wuold it to be to pick off aliens from a tower with a light machine gun with a scope realy.

sharpsword6

Well coil i decided to read that six days thing it gave me a lot of info i think i might start a new topic sounds good.

dragonsblade

i hope they make the other 5 parts to 6 days in sanji

Legionnaired

Uh, it's only gonna have 2 parts, maybe 3.

Crim0nKing

stop trying to look at the game realisticly nubs, it's got aliens in it, what about the aliens?

Rico1

And please dont spam or change the topic the thread was originally aimed for.

4 posts not even spaced out by 2 hours = spam. You can always hit the magic "edit" button on the forums and add any extra info you may ever want...

BTW: Post count doesnt matter here so i dont see your reasoning behind the spam anyways *shrugs*


Oh well...

coil

Rico, man, chill.  You don't have to b!tch them out in multiple threads.

Rico1

Sorry, it just makes me mad having people resurrect 10+ dead threads and change them all to offtopic just for a bigger post count.

Im usually very friendly, but i dont like spammers and people like that in general...

the_stalker

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Linkal

GENERALLY ON NS MAPS IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE YOU'RE IN SPACE. THEY MOSTLY TAKE PLACE ON SPACE STATIONS, IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED.
Sorry for the caps, but the obvious must be heard!