ahhhhhh okay xect, I see where the confusion is. My character has removed the gravitational targeting hardware. It no longer matters. He's hooked the PDA to the pins controling the firing device so that when the PDA asserts logic high, the siege simply fires at whatever coordinates it's currently at. I chose 3D coordinates because that specifies the point of destabilization as well, though the way I'm giving coordinates will ensure it's always an object. Effectively, the siege's targetting device is completely bypassed and it's 100% manual. (note to self: maybe I should stop using real concepts in an RPG <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> )
<span style='color:gray'>"Fire darn you!" [tries again]</span>
<b>Ok, I need to get two things straight. The first thing: what you are descibing is what you are TRYING to do. Don't trust it to work, it hasn't worked all the times the TSA engineers tried. Second, are you actually trying to activate the fire mechanism (aimed at the mechs)?
Just a clearup. Right now, the guns are pointed at the mechs because of your coordinates. You are unable to tell if they will fire when you tell them to, and you have not yet tried to tell them to fire.</b>
<i>Ceanjia: "Ok, sure, if that is what you want, go for it.
Now, the upper floors of the ship has a nano-cleaning device like the one on the planet station. I'm gonna transfer to those, activate the device and try to disconnect those floors from the ship, making sure something is left even if you fail."</i>
what I'm trying to do has nothing to do with TSA engineers attempting to get a siege to auto-target a mobile object. All I'm doing is taking over the siege, pointing it in the right direction and telling it to engage its normal firing sequence as if it had locked on, but it hasn't really locked on, all that's happened is that its been told where to place the shot and then to actually shoot. This has nothing to do with the gravitational targeter and would be useless in most situations except something just like this, since it takes too long to set up in regular situations.
Yes I have attempted to fire 3 or 4 times now. the first time was when I said that I sent the code to my PDA.
<span style='color:White'> "Bomber, Situation is now under control, Our Main Base has been established and we are now commencing engagement with the Kahraa."
*Ed mutes outgoing sound for a second*
"I hate being a liason, I should be trying to pimp out Khaim's new legs with parts off the dropship, Anyone else want to play Diplomat for a while?"
<span style='color:purple'>*Walks back to the dropship* "Don't get any ideas there Ed. I'm not in the mood to spend another hour leg-less... And besides, you're doing great as a diplomat... I think." *Looks around* "Anyway, lets get going... Assuming that bomber pilot will listen to us now..."</span> Gwahir, the seige modifies gravity signatures, right? If it can't find any gravity to modify, it would probably just not fire... and If you removed failsafes and it tried to modify whatever you had it pointed at... Just don't shoot the walls... k? o.O
<!--QuoteBegin--Khaim+Jan 21 2004, 04:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Khaim @ Jan 21 2004, 04:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ....Just don't shoot the walls... k? o.O <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah... This ship is a bad as the Roger Young from the Starship Troopers Movie... let alone a a first run Galaxy class from Star Trek
As far as I can tell, gravity silhouettes are used to find targets, according to forum tradition (not the back story) the firing mechanism is sound related. I've removed the targetting hardware, for the umpteenth time, and I'm just saying "fire" whenever I want, I really don't see what the problem is.
<b>I think it's Xect's way of saying "Stop doing that and focus on somthing better than turning a set of "friendly" mechs into bits of metal that would shower out and injure all in the cargo bay"</b>
<b>First things first, Gwahir, we go by the manual here, not the socalled forum tradition (which is, as far as I'm aware, to follow the manual). But well, you order the siege to fire.</b>
<i>Ed - The connection seems to be faulty. A few seconds before you transmit, it simply pops out. There's no connection, no answer, no reaction, nothing at all but static.
Gwahir - Pressing a button on your hud, you order the siege to fire. A loud crash breaks the silence, except it doesnt stop. The target mech is splintered into small shards of metal flying all over the room, ripping structures and hitting your armor. The blast seems to not stop, you are beginning to see the area where the mech stood become slightly distorted, shaking like hot air. Then you notice the classical flame at the barrel on the siege is still on. The barrel is shaking wildly, and cracks are starting to break out along the barrel. Suddenly, you feel something hitting the back of your head, then everything goes black.
Khaim - You notice what Gwahir is doing. Then you watch the same scene from above, except when the barrel breaks you see, for a fraction of a second, a gravitational explosion like from hundreds of siege devices, centered on the siege cannon. Then the CC shakes violently, breaks open, and you roll along the floor of the dock. Your head hurts badly, but you can move. As you sit up to watch the situation, a voice sounds in your left headset, the right one is not working.
Ceanjia: "So, you team up with the aliens then? I would say that is what we A.I.s usually define as a mistake. Sorry, but if killing them means killing you, then so be it."
Khaim - You watch as the one mech that was not blasted aims for Gwahirs limp form, lying by the wall. Gwahir seems to be bleeding heavily. You don't have time to act before the mechs open fire, and the room echoes to unbearable sound levels as thousands of metal bullets are emptied into what was a human body 5 seconds ago.
Team by communications - you hear a scream through the headset. Then you hear Ceanjia's message. When you turn around, you see that the two mechs have turned up their weapons and are activating them.</i>
<span style='color:purple'><["Oh. Sh*t! Get the hell back here, Caen's gone mad!"]> *Runs like hell for the double rocket launcher still laying on the dock floor and [Attempts to aim it at the remaining mech and fire it]* "I told him not to do it too!" *Tries to get into the cover of the downed dropship*</span> Gwhir go boom. o.o
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-family:courier'> "What?? I thought we were becoming friends!" *shoulders weapon and spins around to face the explosion* "Holy! Where'd that mech go?" *pieces of wreakage rain around me* "...Oh." *scan the area for the other mech and sees Ghawir* "Crazy b*stard. Don't need anymore dead heroes." *runs over to get closer to him* "Medic! We need a god damn medic! I'll cover you!" *thumbs the selector switch to full auto and starts generous bursts of 10-15 rounds* "Hey! You take me down!" [continues firing on the mech, reloading and taunting it] </span></span>
oh come on, I never actually targeted the mech... I only test fired it, true I never deactivated the firing sequence, one sec later and I would have ripped the cords out. I never broke the rules to the RPG, why me? Others have gotten away with far worse. And I never argued really, I was just trying to figure out what was going on...
Moment of silence for Gwahir please. ... ... ... Now just hurry up and join the que to get back into the game. (no offense, and that's assuming you're dead o.o)
<span style='color:White'> *Ed hears the message.* "Cen, Calm down! It's not their----* *Ed hears the gunfire and the death message for Gwhair, Ed snaps.* "... You Binary B****!!!! And to think i was going to help you survive the destruction of this ship! I'll P*** on your CPU right before i pull your Plug!" *Ed Slams in his Antitank Armor Piercing Clip.* "Behold the Wrath of Wynona!"
[Ed opens fire on the mechs in the corridor, Making sure he doenst hit an exterior wall]
*As he Fires he opens up the inter-team communication on his suit*</span>
<b>I'll Edit it we pull out the dagger of time and rewind tiem all Prince of Persia Style</b>
<span style='color:green'>*listening* *[finds cover and dives into it]* *voice com* "We got our own problems over here Khaim." *[unloads my HMG into the nearest mech]*</span> <b>You know, I had a funny feeling this place was about to go down the crapper.</b>
<span style='color:orange'><i>[dives for cover Max Payne style, firing pointlessly at the mechs with my P229s]</i> <b>"Well, I hope you're all happy about not letting me in one of those things, otherwise I'd be blasting the sh!t out of them right now!"</b> <i>"Merc, calm down. See if you can find any weak points."</i> <b>"Well, there is your... Oh, you mean the mechs! I thought you meant yourself. Gimme a minute"</b> <i>[tries to move and take cover behind the dropship with Khaim]</i> <b>[tries to find mech specifications out of the many files she 'obtained' while she was in the system]</b></span>
<b>No need for queues there, Gwahir is still in the game even if his character is out.</b>
<i>The mech in the hanger turns towards khaim, and a beep breaks the, now striking, silence; the sound of a rocket launcher gaining a lock.
The other two mechs are starting to roll up their cannons. They don't seem to pay much attention to the bullets, although some of them actually do penetrate.
Ceanjia: "Muhahaaaa, feel your mistakes!"
Just then, the ship quakes, and the sound of an explosion, followed by the security door slamming, is heard from one of the unoccupied docks.
Ceanjia: "Seems your bomber hit. You're in quite a hurry if you want to escape. Oh wait, where are you going to go anyway?"</i>
<span style='color:purple'>*Runs like hell back for the rocket launcher* {Yelling} "This better Frelling work!!" [Fires the rockets at the locked on mech] {Yelling Again} "Burn in digital hell you psychotic A.I. piece of trash!"</span>
<span style='color:green'>"Come on, you tin psychos, DIE!" *I [unload more of my HMG clip at the same mech, trying to take out its guns], but I [duck behind cover and stay there if one of them starts pointing them in my direction]* <["You'd better make it quick, or you'll be mopping us off the walls!"]></span>
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-family:courier'> *clicks completely empty* "Aww...**** this!" *secures empty weapon to my back by tightening the strap* *runs over to the stockpile of weapons from the earlier spam* *grabs a Grenade Launcher* [Quickly shoulders it and fires off its four rounds] *when I click empty, I just grab another Grenade Launcher* </span></span>
<b>And then if I run out of GLs to ****, I'll just run up to it and start welding the mech. It ought to melt or something <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->.</b>
*cough*I'm just dying to get back into the RPG... *general moans follow*
Xect I'll PM you to discuss reentrance tothe RPG. Seems this character is dead, <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> I liked him, my best character EVER.
<i>Khaim - as you run towards the rocket launcher lying on the ground, the beeping grows louder. Just as you're getting close, the mech unleashes a rocket. The rocket follows you, but he jumps just before it hits you. Nevertheless, you are launched through the room. The last thing you hear is the mech letting out a new shower of bullets.
rest - You hear an explosion, and then loud gunfire echoing through the corridors.</i>
<b>Terran, I'm confused. Where exactly are you standing?</b>
<span style='color:white'> *After Ed empties his only clip of Antitank rounds, he dives behind the nearest cover. Ed hears the explosions, and has an idea. Ed activates teamchat.
<i>Edward_Crab (TEAM) : I have an idea that should stop Cen in her tracks. Follow my lead.</i>
Ed turns on the common frequency*
"My god! That Viral AI is gone insane!! 344! If you can hear this, a rouge AI is hyjacking your mechs and tryng to destroy your ship! We're the good guys!" </span>
<i>A few seconds later, a new voice is in the speakers. Less metallic and deeper than Ceanjias.
344: "Oh, is she. That's not good, I'd probably have to do something about that. I mean, it wouldn't do to have you killed. You know, you are, after all, the good guys ... Oh wait, something strikes me as a bit odd. You're the good guys, yet you seem to be cooperating with the bad guys. If I am to help you, there's on thing I need to know. Why..."
<b>I was in the vicinity of Ghawir's body, but then my weapon clicked empty (done by myself). I then ran over to the weapon stockpile, when we spammed a whole lot of Heavy and Weapons in the beginning, grabbed a Grenade Launcher, and started firing.</b>
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<span style='color:gray'>"Fire darn you!"
[tries again]</span>
Just a clearup. Right now, the guns are pointed at the mechs because of your coordinates. You are unable to tell if they will fire when you tell them to, and you have not yet tried to tell them to fire.</b>
<i>Ceanjia: "Ok, sure, if that is what you want, go for it.
Now, the upper floors of the ship has a nano-cleaning device like the one on the planet station. I'm gonna transfer to those, activate the device and try to disconnect those floors from the ship, making sure something is left even if you fail."</i>
Yes I have attempted to fire 3 or 4 times now. the first time was when I said that I sent the code to my PDA.
"Bomber, Situation is now under control, Our Main Base has been established and we are now commencing engagement with the Kahraa."
*Ed mutes outgoing sound for a second*
"I hate being a liason, I should be trying to pimp out Khaim's new legs with parts off the dropship, Anyone else want to play Diplomat for a while?"
*Ed unmutes*</span>
"Don't get any ideas there Ed. I'm not in the mood to spend another hour leg-less... And besides, you're doing great as a diplomat... I think."
*Looks around*
"Anyway, lets get going... Assuming that bomber pilot will listen to us now..."</span>
Gwahir, the seige modifies gravity signatures, right? If it can't find any gravity to modify, it would probably just not fire... and If you removed failsafes and it tried to modify whatever you had it pointed at... Just don't shoot the walls... k? o.O
Yeah... This ship is a bad as the Roger Young from the Starship Troopers Movie... let alone a a first run Galaxy class from Star Trek
<i>Ed - The connection seems to be faulty. A few seconds before you transmit, it simply pops out. There's no connection, no answer, no reaction, nothing at all but static.
Gwahir - Pressing a button on your hud, you order the siege to fire. A loud crash breaks the silence, except it doesnt stop. The target mech is splintered into small shards of metal flying all over the room, ripping structures and hitting your armor. The blast seems to not stop, you are beginning to see the area where the mech stood become slightly distorted, shaking like hot air. Then you notice the classical flame at the barrel on the siege is still on. The barrel is shaking wildly, and cracks are starting to break out along the barrel. Suddenly, you feel something hitting the back of your head, then everything goes black.
Khaim - You notice what Gwahir is doing. Then you watch the same scene from above, except when the barrel breaks you see, for a fraction of a second, a gravitational explosion like from hundreds of siege devices, centered on the siege cannon. Then the CC shakes violently, breaks open, and you roll along the floor of the dock. Your head hurts badly, but you can move. As you sit up to watch the situation, a voice sounds in your left headset, the right one is not working.
Ceanjia: "So, you team up with the aliens then? I would say that is what we A.I.s usually define as a mistake. Sorry, but if killing them means killing you, then so be it."
Khaim - You watch as the one mech that was not blasted aims for Gwahirs limp form, lying by the wall. Gwahir seems to be bleeding heavily. You don't have time to act before the mechs open fire, and the room echoes to unbearable sound levels as thousands of metal bullets are emptied into what was a human body 5 seconds ago.
Team by communications - you hear a scream through the headset. Then you hear Ceanjia's message. When you turn around, you see that the two mechs have turned up their weapons and are activating them.</i>
*Runs like hell for the double rocket launcher still laying on the dock floor and [Attempts to aim it at the remaining mech and fire it]*
"I told him not to do it too!"
*Tries to get into the cover of the downed dropship*</span>
Gwhir go boom. o.o
"What?? I thought we were becoming friends!"
*shoulders weapon and spins around to face the explosion*
"Holy! Where'd that mech go?"
*pieces of wreakage rain around me*
"...Oh."
*scan the area for the other mech and sees Ghawir*
"Crazy b*stard. Don't need anymore dead heroes."
*runs over to get closer to him*
"Medic! We need a god damn medic! I'll cover you!"
*thumbs the selector switch to full auto and starts generous bursts of 10-15 rounds*
"Hey! You take me down!"
[continues firing on the mech, reloading and taunting it]
</span></span>
Could you rewind time?
...
...
...
Now just hurry up and join the que to get back into the game. (no offense, and that's assuming you're dead o.o)
"Cen, Calm down! It's not their----*
*Ed hears the gunfire and the death message for Gwhair, Ed snaps.*
"... You Binary B****!!!! And to think i was going to help you survive the destruction of this ship! I'll P*** on your CPU right before i pull your Plug!" *Ed Slams in his Antitank Armor Piercing Clip.* "Behold the Wrath of Wynona!"
[Ed opens fire on the mechs in the corridor, Making sure he doenst hit an exterior wall]
*As he Fires he opens up the inter-team communication on his suit*</span>
<b>I'll Edit it we pull out the dagger of time and rewind tiem all Prince of Persia Style</b>
*[finds cover and dives into it]*
*voice com*
"We got our own problems over here Khaim."
*[unloads my HMG into the nearest mech]*</span>
<b>You know, I had a funny feeling this place was about to go down the crapper.</b>
<b>"Well, I hope you're all happy about not letting me in one of those things, otherwise I'd be blasting the sh!t out of them right now!"</b>
<i>"Merc, calm down. See if you can find any weak points."</i>
<b>"Well, there is your... Oh, you mean the mechs! I thought you meant yourself. Gimme a minute"</b>
<i>[tries to move and take cover behind the dropship with Khaim]</i>
<b>[tries to find mech specifications out of the many files she 'obtained' while she was in the system]</b></span>
<i>The mech in the hanger turns towards khaim, and a beep breaks the, now striking, silence; the sound of a rocket launcher gaining a lock.
The other two mechs are starting to roll up their cannons. They don't seem to pay much attention to the bullets, although some of them actually do penetrate.
Ceanjia: "Muhahaaaa, feel your mistakes!"
Just then, the ship quakes, and the sound of an explosion, followed by the security door slamming, is heard from one of the unoccupied docks.
Ceanjia: "Seems your bomber hit. You're in quite a hurry if you want to escape. Oh wait, where are you going to go anyway?"</i>
{Yelling} "This better Frelling work!!"
[Fires the rockets at the locked on mech]
{Yelling Again} "Burn in digital hell you psychotic A.I. piece of trash!"</span>
*I [unload more of my HMG clip at the same mech, trying to take out its guns], but I [duck behind cover and stay there if one of them starts pointing them in my direction]*
<["You'd better make it quick, or you'll be mopping us off the walls!"]></span>
*clicks completely empty*
"Aww...**** this!"
*secures empty weapon to my back by tightening the strap*
*runs over to the stockpile of weapons from the earlier spam*
*grabs a Grenade Launcher*
[Quickly shoulders it and fires off its four rounds]
*when I click empty, I just grab another Grenade Launcher*
</span></span>
<b>And then if I run out of GLs to ****, I'll just run up to it and start welding the mech. It ought to melt or something <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->.</b>
Xect I'll PM you to discuss reentrance tothe RPG. Seems this character is dead, <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> I liked him, my best character EVER.
rest - You hear an explosion, and then loud gunfire echoing through the corridors.</i>
<b>Terran, I'm confused. Where exactly are you standing?</b>
<i>Edward_Crab (TEAM) : I have an idea that should stop Cen in her tracks. Follow my lead.</i>
Ed turns on the common frequency*
"My god! That Viral AI is gone insane!! 344! If you can hear this, a rouge AI is hyjacking your mechs and tryng to destroy your ship! We're the good guys!"
</span>
<b> RPing at is best, minus all the PC death</b>
<i>Bill_Door (TEAM) :Yoou REALLY think this will work? 344 doesn't trust us</i>
344: "Oh, is she. That's not good, I'd probably have to do something about that. I mean, it wouldn't do to have you killed. You know, you are, after all, the good guys ... Oh wait, something strikes me as a bit odd. You're the good guys, yet you seem to be cooperating with the bad guys. If I am to help you, there's on thing I need to know. Why..."
Ceanjia: "...should I..."
344: "...trust..."
Ceanjia: "...you?"
344: "Muahahaaa"</i>