Partitioning A Hard Disk

SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Need some advice</div> I'm running Windows NT, and my hard disk's file structure is NTFS. I want to play certain really old games again, and after a long and arduous journey I've found a bootable DOS-like OS which supports them. The only problem is that it doesn't understand NTFS, only FAT. I know this for a fact because I've been able to play these old games on my mum's computer, the hard disk of which use FAT.

Basically, I want to put in a FAT partition on my hard disk, and I want to know if there's any way of doing this without reformatting. I can live with having to reformat, I guess, but it's a huge pain in the backside.

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  • redeemed_darknessredeemed_darkness Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12565Members
    edited November 2003
    Partition magic it’s not free but you got about 99% chance of success
    (Well so far haven’t failed me but I still back it up first)

    As for any freeware I have no idea

    Edit: dos emulators would probably be a better idea
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    fdisk > partition magic. Please. People need to stop paying for stuff that already comes with windows.
  • redeemed_darknessredeemed_darkness Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12565Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Nov 10 2003, 11:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 10 2003, 11:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'I want to know if there's any way of doing this without reformatting.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well if you read deep enough you find the reason of Partition magic
    But I agree it is better to start over again
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct+Nov 10 2003, 11:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Nov 10 2003, 11:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> fdisk > partition magic. Please. People need to stop paying for stuff that already comes with windows. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not really, Partition magic lets you make partitions out of ones that already have data on them.


    I would suggest, rather than bothering with attempting to partition your active HD (a risky endeavour the first time you try it) Just go to ebay or some site and buy a small 1-2 gig HD that you can use and not worry if it loses its data or not.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--redeemed darkness+Nov 11 2003, 12:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (redeemed darkness @ Nov 11 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Edit: dos emulators would probably be a better idea<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They are, and you have no idea how many I've been through. For these particular games, this boot disk is the only thing that works.

    <!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct + Nov 11 2003, 12:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Nov 11 2003, 12:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    fdisk > partition magic. Please. People need to stop paying for stuff that already comes with windows.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Can that set up partitions without reformatting, though?

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> would suggest, rather than bothering with attempting to partition your active HD (a risky endeavour the first time you try it) Just go to ebay or some site and buy a small 1-2 gig HD that you can use and not worry if it loses its data or not.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, if I was going to buy hardware I might as well by a whole other box, and set it up as a DOS box. I'm trying to avoid buying more hardware (I'd like to avoid buying anything at all, actually, if at all possibly).
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Nov 10 2003, 11:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 10 2003, 11:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Can that set up partitions without reformatting, though?

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> would suggest, rather than bothering with attempting to partition your active HD (a risky endeavour the first time you try it) Just go to ebay or some site and buy a small 1-2 gig HD that you can use and not worry if it loses its data or not.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, if I was going to buy hardware I might as well by a whole other box, and set it up as a DOS box. I'm trying to avoid buying more hardware (I'd like to avoid buying anything at all, actually, if at all possibly). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fdisk cannot setup partitions without reformatting. Its a very powerful tool (In the computer world, powerful simple refers to the tools ability to foul you up in the least number of steps)


    As for additional hardware, you can find 1-2 gig HD's for $10-$20. Hardly a cost justifying the purchase of a an entire new box.

    But if all you want is an extra FAT partition. Use partition magic to slice one out of your current drive.
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    PtM is easy as hell. If you get it it's done in 5 minutes. And you don't need to reformat.
  • CrystalSnakeCrystalSnake Join Date: 2002-01-27 Member: 110Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Nov 11 2003, 05:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 11 2003, 05:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I want to play certain really old games again, and after a long and arduous journey I've found a bootable DOS-like OS which supports them.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is this <a href='http://www.freedos.org/' target='_blank'>Freedos</a> you're talking about?
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CrystalSnake+Nov 11 2003, 02:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CrystalSnake @ Nov 11 2003, 02:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Nov 11 2003, 05:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 11 2003, 05:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I want to play certain really old games again, and after a long and arduous journey I've found a bootable DOS-like OS which supports them.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is this <a href='http://www.freedos.org/' target='_blank'>Freedos</a> you're talking about? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No. It's <a href='http://www.geocities.com/faustino909/bootdisk.html' target='_blank'>this</a>. I have little idea what it is, and I haven't found so much as a website about it other than this one.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Hm...

    Either way, I'm going to need to free up some space and defrag before I use whatever it is I'm using to partition, right?
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    Theres a freeware program I used to use... can't remebmer the name and I'm not sure if it could shrink NTFS partitions, i'll get back to you when I find it.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I remember linux has lots of partition tools, though I dunno if the screw up NTFS or not, as I heard linux has only just recently been able to write NTFS w/o fubar'ing it.
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Nov 11 2003, 04:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Nov 11 2003, 04:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I remember linux has lots of partition tools, though I dunno if the screw up NTFS or not, as I heard linux has only just recently been able to write NTFS w/o fubar'ing it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, IIRC linux could read from NTFS without problems fairly early on, but since they had to reverse engineer the filesystem, writing was always a bit risky. I think SuSE has some tool to resize windows partitions in its installer, though it may be proprietary.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--SkulkBait+Nov 11 2003, 07:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 11 2003, 07:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, IIRC linux could read from NTFS without problems fairly early on, but since they had to reverse engineer the filesystem, writing was always a bit risky. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, its been able to read NTFS awhile, but the Linux mongrels in my SA&D class say that very recently Writing to NTFS has been completed and is now working, one one of the distros at least (can't remember which)
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Yaaay! It's working now!

    Funny thing is, the OS wasn't recognising my USB mouse. That was until I remembered that I kept an old, slightly buggy mouse from when we replaced one of ours. I plugged it into the "normal" mouse port and it works great!

    Here's the funny thing: Windows recognises both mice. As being the same mouse. So both mice control the pointer <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Now, if I can just get the sound working...
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