Naked Sushi

othellothell Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4183Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
<div class="IPBDescription">Dehumanizing?</div> <a href='http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/11/12/offbeat.naked.sushi.ap/index.html' target='_blank'>http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/11/12/offb...i.ap/index.html</a>

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  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    One man's trash is another man's art.
  • The_ThingThe_Thing Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13993Members
    Sooo, prostitutes are still legal?
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    As long as it's fine with the models, the guests and the owners I see no problems with it. Yeah, sexual attraction can be exhibited and be written a big art-sign on <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    Nothing new. It's been done in Japan for years. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Women can get hired as human plates in some restaurants.
  • p4Samwisep4Samwise Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10831Members
    Interesting. I think I'd be a little too self-conscious to appreciate it, but I have no problem whatsoever with it going on. Dehumanization is in the eye of the beholder.
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    Hmm, I like my Sushi cold, seems her skin would warm it up too much.

    Aside from that I say more power to her, she has wealthy people spending btloads of money to eat off of her flesh. What could possibly be better (without touching on prostitution that is) Besides I dont see these activists in nude massage parlors, or spas, seems like a double standard to me.

    Also, would there even be a story if people were eating the Sushi off of a mans flesh?
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    <rant>
    Not to sound sexist or anything (which I might)...but is anyone tired of seeing a double-standard?

    There are hundreds of organizations for minorities, women, minority women, and everything else. But what would happen if it was a "naked" male doing? a naked, caucasian male? No one would give a flying rat's arse.

    If I understand it correctly, the entire 60's "Women's Lib" thing was basically giving women the choice of how they want to live their lives, but now if a person CHOOSES to do something, such as "naked" sushi, they aren't given the freedom of having chosen to do that. It is suddenly "offensive" to every woman of what ever race the person is just because that person has chosen to exhibit CHOICE, choice that they had every right to do?



    *Semi-Spoiler*
    It reminds me of a family guy episode (Season two, Disc three) where Peter is charged with Sexual Harassment. He attends a workshop to deal with his "attitude" towards women. They basically convert him. At the end, Peter and Lois are at a "Feminist" meeting. The person who ran the workshop for Peter walks up to Lois and basically says that she is a disgrace, because she isn't working. Lois says something along the lines of, "The 60's feminist movement was a great thing, but didn't it also give me the choice to do what I want? I want to be a stay-at-home mother."

    </rant>
  • WaltWalt Join Date: 2003-10-12 Member: 21635Members, Constellation
    I hear about porn and scantily clad underwear models and naked sushi all being dehumanizing to women, but really, I'm not that stupid. They're doing it out of their own free will. They're humans, and <i>because they're humans</i>, that's exactly why it's interesting to eat off of them. Because they aren't objects, not because we're viewing them as objects. I've done my fair share of immoral things, and I still consider women every bit as human as I am. Dehumanizing? Perhaps burlesque, lewd, or racy, but that side of culture is overrated and overcriticized in my opinion.
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Smoke Nova+Nov 12 2003, 09:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Smoke Nova @ Nov 12 2003, 09:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    *Semi-Spoiler*
    It reminds me of a family guy episode (Season two, Disc three) where Peter is charged with Sexual Harassment. He attends a workshop to deal with his "attitude" towards women.  They basically convert him.  At the end, Peter and Lois are at a "Feminist" meeting.  The person who ran the workshop for Peter walks up to Lois and basically says that she is a disgrace, because she isn't working.  Lois says something along the lines of, "The 60's feminist movement was a great thing, but didn't it also give me the choice to do what I want? I want to be a stay-at-home mother."
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Best part of that episode is where he goes to the black rally and tells them (He's yelling at the males in the audience, not just because they're black) that because of the way men act, they're what's wrong with america and everything is their fault. Except he doesn't mention men.
  • Island_SavageIsland_Savage Join Date: 2003-09-30 Member: 21354Members
    hmm, times bring change, these changes merely show the culture behind them. I say "To each their own".
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    I love sushi. I also love naked women. A union of these two things is fine by me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Now to get this club to open a store in Australia...
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's dehumanizing, the manner in which people are buying and selling sushi to be eaten off a woman's body. It's dehumanizing to be treated as a plate.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    They do it out of thier free will. If they thought it was de humanizing, they could quit. Her statement doesnt hold any water
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    It's all a matter of choice.

    These women choose to be used as plates. It is entirely their own choice.

    ^points to my own post above.
  • torquetorque Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20035Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Z.X. Bogglesteinsky+Nov 13 2003, 09:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Z.X. Bogglesteinsky @ Nov 13 2003, 09:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    They do it out of thier free will. If they thought it was de humanizing, they could quit. Her statement doesnt hold any water<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Whether it's dehumanizing or not (that, I believe, is in the eye of the beholder), some people will do it because they need the money. Out of their 'free will' yes, so to speak... I had friends that believed pornography was dehumanizing, but went into the business anyway because they were unemployed and could come up with no other way to come up with the money they needed to survive on. A drastic case, I suppose, but still...

    Also, I'm inclined to believe that there are cultural differences you're overlooking, at least in Japan. (I'm not an actual native, so I'm just going by what I've heard from growing up in the culture, so please correct me wherever you can.)

    Going to a 'naked sushi' restaurant in Japan is more or less reserved for businessmen, who go to all sorts of weird restaurants as a way to let out the incredible pressure many of them are under. Naked sushi, then, is not just eating out, but allows the men to a)ogle a woman, if that's what they want to get out of it and b) has a distinctly aesthetic quality to it, as well as the surreal sense that a lot of us find pleasing. A lot of Japanese aestheticism revolves around femininity (hence the large market for 'bishounen' in comics and animation, meaning beautiful, often very feminine boys), so sushi (which is viewed as a culinary art, both in the preparation and the beauty of the way in which it is served) on a woman would be aestheticism upon aestheticism. Very Japanese.

    / my two cents
  • MenixMenix Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20828Members
    Most of the "Women's Rights" and "feminist" groups today have put women as their primary enemy. Sometimes it's sickening whenever the hardcore "feminists" open their mouths to attack beauty or freedom of choice.
  • LukinLukin Join Date: 2003-08-23 Member: 20098Members
    If there are any men behind this movement, have they a pair??

    C'mon!! What would do if an attractive 19 year old sprawled out nude infront of you? Be offended?
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    edited November 2003
    People can do whatever the hell they want as long as it doesn't interfere with someone else's rights.

    That's my own personal beliefs.

    Whether it is morally right or wrong is another issue, however if the government did this, we would all be forced to go to church, read the bible, and confess our sins on a regular basis to avoid getting put in jail. Luckily, this isn't the world we live in. People have choice. So LET them have choice.

    I hate how people want to force other people to do things and then say "See? Don't you feel more liberated now?"
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