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<!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 13 2003, 05:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 13 2003, 05:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just to put this into perspective, Counter-Strike is top multiplayer game of all time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> HAHAHAHAH! True...
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I never really did like LOTR. This makes me happy <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
In all fairness, Matrix Revolutions opened to more theatre and pulled that "same time round the world" gig. That lessens its numbers imo. But congrats at passing 200 million nontheless.
<!--QuoteBegin--Duff-Man+Nov 13 2003, 06:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Duff-Man @ Nov 13 2003, 06:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ROTK will smash all records and destroy all-comers in the movie wars.
...as well as being the most pwn-tacular movie of all time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It'll also put me into a nice deep sleep.
Matrix was good, but as far as plot, characters....PLOT, Lotr is much much better and always will be. Not to mention this whole topic is pointless because ROTK will chew up then crap out any records set by the Matrix.
<!--QuoteBegin--Bosnian+Nov 13 2003, 08:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bosnian @ Nov 13 2003, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It'll also put me into a nice deep sleep. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Must.... resist.... flame....
I'm sorry, but if LotR puts you to sleep then you really must have a.) A sleeping disorder or b.) ADD.
There is no way to fall asleep in LotR even if you do, for some strange reason, feel the need to. For one thing, the music and sounds are so loud (and well done) that it would be impossible to fall asleep and for another thing, there IS alot of action in LotR. Most of the people saying that LotR "put them to sleep" haven't even seen the movie and just don't like it because most people do, they think their cool because they're not on the LotR bandwagon.
Anyways, it's true, LotR will crush Revolution in the box office. (which, btw, sucked almost as badly as Reloaded) My local movie theater was selling some special package on the night of the RoTK release, all 3 movies in a row. (with breaks between each one of course) The tickets sold out in less then 30 minutes, 6 screens showing this for a hefty price and it was sold out in less then 30 minutes. Just think of how well the tickets will sell for normal screenings of RoTK. Another thing, most people wanting to watch the other two LotR movies waited for a few weeks to avoid the rush. Can't say the same for Reloaded and it looks the same for Revolutions, went to Reloaded about 3 weeks after the release and the theater wasn't even half full, did the same for TTT and it was almost packed, only single seats left.
The Matrix was a great movie with lots of deep thinking but Reloaded and Revolution sucked. All the focus was on action and the story line seemed almost forgotten. Luckly, LoTR still focuses on the, if not a little altered, great story line. Sorry, but LotR pwns The last two Matrix movies.
Look, Fellowship was incredibly tepid in the first, oh, half of the movie, with the major action scene being the fall of Sauron, and the 2 minute Ringwraith battle with Strider. Forgot that little bit of the trilogy? Two Towers, again, it was tepid in the first half of the movie, with the action being very slow and gradual. The "Big battle" was Helm's Deep and the Orc-Rider's. That's it. From the look of the trailers, it was full of action. Instead I find it to be full of talk and running and such.
Still good movies, just don't go saying they were action filled when they had their fair share of tepid sequences.
As much as I disliked the original Lord of the Rings novels, and as much of a Matrix fan I am, I'm saddened by this news. Revolutions sucked skulk scrotum, and LoTR is unquestionably a classic.
I've always seen the LOTR movies on opening day....but it's definitely no Matrix. I just don't find myself caring nearly as much. Don't get me wrong - I loved the books: the movies are just a little too 'Hollywood' for my tastes. I want philosophical, cognitive, thought-provoking movies, darnit!
Funny how people can call a 202 million in 5 day movie a bomb. I just don't get it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> I stand by all my previous statements: Revolutions pwns so hard I can barely keep my head from spinning. Agree if you will, but I stand by this conviction. I'm sure as hell getting it on DVD. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
They should have left it at the first Matrix. It needed no more development of plot and lost everything the original had going for it. It's better to see Neo rise to being 'the one' instead of watching him be 'the one' again and again and again.
Um, ok. The matirx is a stupid action movie sequence which is just a lot of CG animated fighting sequences, neo and trinity kissing, and a touch of plot. However, the lord of the rings movies are based on possibly one of the greatest series of books ever made. True, the conversion isn't perfect, but I think anyone who WANTS the matrix to do better then LOtR has a mental condition.
I saw FOTR once opening day... I saw Two Towers twice opening day... and so far, my schedule for ROTK opening day is clear. Can I handle the precedent? Have to wait and see....
<!--QuoteBegin--Redford+Nov 13 2003, 09:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Nov 13 2003, 09:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...possibly one of the greatest series of books ever made... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I dunno about that, the Magic: The Gathering series of books have been very engrossing.
I don't know about you guys, but if I was Warner Brothers, I wouldn't look at the millions I had just made and say to myself:
"This means much less because it was based off a movie so many hated. Because it was a shorter movie, we were able to get so much more money, which is bad. If only we had elves in this movie, and lengthened the film - then all this money we've just earned would be so much more, well, <b>real.</b>"
I applaud Warner Brothers and the Matrix Brothers for being able to earn so much money.
Hmmm...what many of you apparently <i>didn't</i> know is that the scene with neo and Smith was largely the actors themselves. The Brothers set up a gigantic midair bluescreen rig and had the actors fight and whatnot. When they were floating in the sky while fighting in the end? Real. The only CGI fakeness in that entire scene was when Smith is flying around liek crazy fast, and in a few key other parts.
You can tell some of the CGI stuff, but for the most part it's a cool fight with the flying and the booms and the rain and the slightly-cheesy dialogue.
and yes, people might say the Matrix movies has cheesy dialogue. So does LotR. Your just an LotR fanboy if you can't admit that it doesn't have cheesy dialog.
It does have some moving speeches but it's got a lot of cheesy stuff.
And for that I am truely grateful. The world Tolkein created was truely wonderful, and an excellent peice of work. But the books themselves, whilst good, simply don't translate well into cinema without changes.
If the movies had followed the books exactly, the films would have been twice as long, half of them would be poetry and singing, the Battle of Helms Deep would be 5 minutes long and would consist of the Orcs killing one another through sheer incompitance whilst Aragorn composed a poem. Then there would be 2 hours of Saruman and Gandalf shouting at each other, whilst Sam would spend most of the movie kissing Frodo. Plus Tom I-am-a-raging-hobbit-paedophile Bombadil. Thank every deity ever concieved that Tom wasn't in the movies.
Sorry, but that would just suck. Peter Jackson has done a wonderful job in my opinion.
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HAHAHAHAH! True...
<span style='color:white'>No, you don't.</span>
Yup, I totally agree.
But congrats at passing 200 million nontheless.
...as well as being the most pwn-tacular movie of all time.
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It'll also put me into a nice deep sleep.
Its not so much a measure of popularity as it is a measure of volume.
I am willing to bet LOTR makes much more in DVD and merchandise sales.
The reason Two Towers has such a good plot is because it has an entire novel to be based off of.
If you hadn't read LotR, would you honestly find the movies as good?
Must.... resist.... flame....
I'm sorry, but if LotR puts you to sleep then you really must have a.) A sleeping disorder or b.) ADD.
There is no way to fall asleep in LotR even if you do, for some strange reason, feel the need to. For one thing, the music and sounds are so loud (and well done) that it would be impossible to fall asleep and for another thing, there IS alot of action in LotR. Most of the people saying that LotR "put them to sleep" haven't even seen the movie and just don't like it because most people do, they think their cool because they're not on the LotR bandwagon.
Anyways, it's true, LotR will crush Revolution in the box office. (which, btw, sucked almost as badly as Reloaded) My local movie theater was selling some special package on the night of the RoTK release, all 3 movies in a row. (with breaks between each one of course) The tickets sold out in less then 30 minutes, 6 screens showing this for a hefty price and it was sold out in less then 30 minutes. Just think of how well the tickets will sell for normal screenings of RoTK. Another thing, most people wanting to watch the other two LotR movies waited for a few weeks to avoid the rush. Can't say the same for Reloaded and it looks the same for Revolutions, went to Reloaded about 3 weeks after the release and the theater wasn't even half full, did the same for TTT and it was almost packed, only single seats left.
The Matrix was a great movie with lots of deep thinking but Reloaded and Revolution sucked. All the focus was on action and the story line seemed almost forgotten. Luckly, LoTR still focuses on the, if not a little altered, great story line. Sorry, but LotR pwns The last two Matrix movies.
Must.... resist.... flame....
I'm sorry, but if LotR puts you to sleep then you really must have a.) A sleeping disorder or b.) ADD.
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Look, Fellowship was incredibly tepid in the first, oh, half of the movie, with the major action scene being the fall of Sauron, and the 2 minute Ringwraith battle with Strider. Forgot that little bit of the trilogy? Two Towers, again, it was tepid in the first half of the movie, with the action being very slow and gradual. The "Big battle" was Helm's Deep and the Orc-Rider's. That's it. From the look of the trailers, it was full of action. Instead I find it to be full of talk and running and such.
Still good movies, just don't go saying they were action filled when they had their fair share of tepid sequences.
Funny how people can call a 202 million in 5 day movie a bomb. I just don't get it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> I stand by all my previous statements: Revolutions pwns so hard I can barely keep my head from spinning. Agree if you will, but I stand by this conviction. I'm sure as hell getting it on DVD. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Yup, I totally agree. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Think about it.
I dunno about that, the Magic: The Gathering series of books have been very engrossing.
"This means much less because it was based off a movie so many hated. Because it was a shorter movie, we were able to get so much more money, which is bad. If only we had elves in this movie, and lengthened the film - then all this money we've just earned would be so much more, well, <b>real.</b>"
I applaud Warner Brothers and the Matrix Brothers for being able to earn so much money.
Oh, and to further the off topic fanboy rambling:
Matrix > Lord of the Rings.
That is all.
You can tell some of the CGI stuff, but for the most part it's a cool fight with the flying and the booms and the rain and the slightly-cheesy dialogue.
and yes, people might say the Matrix movies has cheesy dialogue. So does LotR. Your just an LotR fanboy if you can't admit that it doesn't have cheesy dialog.
It does have some moving speeches but it's got a lot of cheesy stuff.
And for that I am truely grateful. The world Tolkein created was truely wonderful, and an excellent peice of work. But the books themselves, whilst good, simply don't translate well into cinema without changes.
If the movies had followed the books exactly, the films would have been twice as long, half of them would be poetry and singing, the Battle of Helms Deep would be 5 minutes long and would consist of the Orcs killing one another through sheer incompitance whilst Aragorn composed a poem. Then there would be 2 hours of Saruman and Gandalf shouting at each other, whilst Sam would spend most of the movie kissing Frodo. Plus Tom I-am-a-raging-hobbit-paedophile Bombadil. Thank every deity ever concieved that Tom wasn't in the movies.
Sorry, but that would just suck. Peter Jackson has done a wonderful job in my opinion.