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ChromeAngel

<div class="IPBDescription">Need some help</div>3 Picture, first 2 are of the new hive room, 3rd is an oddity.

1. Mmmm... crateness

ChromeAngel

2. And from the other corner...

ChromeAngel

3. Why is this happening?  Perfectly normal hallway, no entities, no overlapping brushes.  Wierd...

gutterclutch

The map is pretty dark. Some textures seem pretty lowres and out of alignment (only a few) but it's too dark to make out visually. Some steam here and there would be cool, and the lighting ought to be a little brighter and sharper

realityisdead

Can't imagine what's going on in that last shot... I know you said there are no overlapping brushes, but is there anything <i>above</i> that brush? A sky brush maybe? I've seen defects like that happen when a sky brush is above (or behind, whatever) a complex brush or group of brushes. This ceiling looks simple enough, though... :/

ChromeAngel

Nope there's nothing above that hallway.

RhoadsToNowhere

I think the hive room's ceiling is much too low.  If you look at other maps' hive rooms, you'll see that they're generally all pretty spacious.  This gives it some extra atmosphere in addition to allowing for massive combat.  And I just don't like the way that the hive is touching the floor like that.  Other than that, I think it looks good, maybe a little extra contrast in the lighting.  Great improvement over your previous maps.

UnCritical

I know this might sound a little simple, but have you tried deleteing that celing and re building it?

coil

Not all hives are high-ceilinged; sometimes a cramped hive makes the hive itself look even larger and more menacing.

I don't think the problem here is darkness, so much as lack of contrast.  You've got next to no variation in the saturation or coloration of your lighting; try to mix it up a bit.  I think you'll get a lot more life out of these areas if you can do that.

Also, the hive looks rather square and uninfested... have you considered replacing or overgrowing the crates with infestation?  Try to avoid making the floor-infestation completely square, too.

realityisdead

Quick thought concerning the error in the third shot: How tall is that brush? I wonder if it's a case of it being too thin (maybe even just too thin compared to the surrounding brushes).

Really though, I think UnCritical has the right mindset there. Whatever it is, it's obviously not a common occurrence. If deleting and rebuilding the brush doesn't help, try manually rebuilding the entire hallway in a seperate map file.



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ChromeAngel

The problem in picture 3 fixed itself when I re-compiled. *shrugs*

I've raised the ceiling that hive room and introduced some colored lighting.  Some of the crates are partialy infested, I plan to add some more gunk though.

ChromeAngel

3 more pics.

1. The cargo hive, from commander view (Note: You can see the whole layout in the minimap.)

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2. I call this the waterworks

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3. And another view of the waterworks

sharpsword6

Those look pretty dam good chromeangel. I wish I was good at mapping and backrounds. You look like an excellent backround maker. <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

gutterclutch

1. How exactly did you manage to get the surface of that mucky water reflective?

2. That wash of red light over the stairway is BEAUTIFUL

ChromeAngel

gutterclutch:
1. It's not reflective, it's transparent.  However reflections can be bodged by making a texture of the view you want reflected and applying it to a func_illusionary just under the waters surface (or something like that).

2.  It flashes, I'm not totally happy with it at the momment...

nrby

The pic 3 brush issue looks like you've accidentally cloned the brush without realising it. It would give that effect but would not appear in the editor unless you select and delete the brush.
The 3d window may show the fuzzy face so check it. The brush order may have changed so the compile would make the problem appear fixed when it still exists.

the_stalker

wow! that is a great map, ChromeAngel, i kinda like the low ceilling hive

SentrySteve

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Yes.. that will be neat to see ingame / in a PT.  One would think a low hive like that gives the aliens a disadvantage when gaurding it.  All a TSA Marine has to do is land some gernades at the base then bang - one less hive.