<!--QuoteBegin--Lt Llama+Nov 25 2003, 12:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Llama @ Nov 25 2003, 12:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I believe the Natural Selection experience holds the solutions: §1 Dont waste the resources §2 Choose a good commander §3 Team work
We all know to well what happens if any of these paragraphs are not fulfilled.
I'm not saying that Natural Selection will make us live forever, just how it is possible to live as long as possible. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Good first post =)
<!--QuoteBegin--Epidemic+Nov 30 2003, 11:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Nov 30 2003, 11:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> K is that 1000? In that case, 6.000.000 is alot hotter than a blow torch <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, before some smart people decided that K is short for 1000, K mean degrees Kelvin. It's basically Celsius with a 0 point at -273 lower. so its not 6.000.000, merely 6000 C
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Are you just making this stuff up?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You obviously don't know a freaking thing about the sun, you don't even know what the corona is, maybe you should graduate 8th grade science and figure that out first.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Actually it is 5800 K, which is approximately 5526.85 degrees celcius vs 1300 degrees celcius for the blow torch. It is only 4.25 times hotter. We're not talking about trillions here.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, it's <b>only</b> 4,500 degrees hotter. It's not that much, only <b>4 times</b> <b>YOU'RE</b> the one who said a blow torch was hotter then the sun in the first place. For someone who was SO INCREDIBLY AND ABSOLUTELY STUPIDLY WRONG the first time, WHY ARE YOU EVEN ARGUING WITH US! You looked like a fool the first time, now you look like a child who gets in a 'UH HUH! NUH UH!' contest.
<!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Dec 1 2003, 12:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Dec 1 2003, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So what's your point? Would you rather I hit you with one bus, or 4.25 busses? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 4.25, because if I have to die by a bus, I'd like to see what a quarter of a bus looks like first.
I was talking about the entire surface of the earth rising to temperatures of "Millions of degrees".
Not even the sun can achieve that at it's surface (NOTE! Surface of sun != Corona!), only as one approaches it's centre.
A blowtorch is all well and good, but it's only a small point when compared to the entire surface area of the sun and/or the earth.
Making a small portion of the earth rise to millions of degrees is fairly easy, making the entire surface of the earth rise to millions of degrees is a good deal tougher.
Although global warming may cause climate change and mass extinctions humanity will most likely be fine. There may be huge amounts of population loss and or famine, but the species would be ok.
Even if 95% of the species on earth die, food chains collapse and nature F4's, so what? As long as we have farm plants and farm animals we will be more or less fine (and certainly alive), since we can protect what we need and deposit it in the now empty areas.
If we survive the next couple hundred years and begin colonizing other places we should be set to survive for an extremly long time, assuming none of these happen. Alien Killing Rampages Artificial Intelegence turning on us Cosmic Natural Disaster (Black Hole, antimater)
Since the chance of anything catastrophic happening in the next few hundred years is low I think humanity will become something alot like a weed: spreading across all available space reguardless of whatever happens to be there. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Obliterater+Dec 2 2003, 09:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obliterater @ Dec 2 2003, 09:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even if 95% of the species on earth die, food chains collapse and nature F4's, so what? As long as we have farm plants and farm animals we will be more or less fine (and certainly alive), since we can protect what we need and deposit it in the now empty areas.
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, you may have a point. We don't <i>need</i> meat to survive. The only reason we eat it was habit left over from the ice age. But I don't entirely agree with you. Basically all farms depend on animals to provide fertilizer and whatnot. So if the animals died out, the farms wouldn't last long.
People always seem to think if the planet warms up, the iceburgs will melt and the world will be covered in water. Well allow me to address that theory head-on.
Iceburgs are 95% underneath the water, correct (I could be wrong, but I know it is close)?
According to physics, ice is buoyant because it is lighter than water. How much lighter? Approximately 5%. This is no coincidence. If the weight of the ice was the same as the water, the ice burgs would be completely submerged in the water, but they aren't.
So supposing you have an icecube weighing 1 kg floating in the water. 50 grams would be sticking out of the water. As the ice cube melts, that 1 kg turns into 1 kg of water (more dense and takes up less space). So with the 50 grams aside, you would expect the water level to DECREASE since ice weighs less than water. Add in the melted 50 grams of ice, and what does the water level do? It retains its original position.
This isn't a miracle of science. It is a cold hard fact. Nothing is going to get submerged in water. "Waterworld" movie was all fiction. I dont' know what killed 97% of all species, but it wasn't water.
<!--QuoteBegin--Hawkeye+Dec 4 2003, 05:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hawkeye @ Dec 4 2003, 05:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> People always seem to think if the planet warms up, the iceburgs will melt and the world will be covered in water. Well allow me to address that theory head-on.
Iceburgs are 95% underneath the water, correct (I could be wrong, but I know it is close)?
According to physics, ice is buoyant because it is lighter than water. How much lighter? Approximately 5%. This is no coincidence. If the weight of the ice was the same as the water, the ice burgs would be completely submerged in the water, but they aren't.
So supposing you have an icecube weighing 1 kg floating in the water. 50 grams would be sticking out of the water. As the ice cube melts, that 1 kg turns into 1 kg of water (more dense and takes up less space). So with the 50 grams aside, you would expect the water level to DECREASE since ice weighs less than water. Add in the melted 50 grams of ice, and what does the water level do? It retains its original position.
This isn't a miracle of science. It is a cold hard fact. Nothing is going to get submerged in water. "Waterworld" movie was all fiction. I dont' know what killed 97% of all species, but it wasn't water. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Nice post... now that we have determined that is not going to "kill us all OMG"... time to move on.
What do you think would happen first:
A.) a large meteor strikes earth
B.) Sun turns into Red dwarf
Well the answer is c.) We dont care because by then we are moved to another location through the marvels of technology. Extinction would be niegh impossible if we manage to develop certian travel technologies. Even more so if we find and intigrate with alien races. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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§1 Dont waste the resources
§2 Choose a good commander
§3 Team work
We all know to well what happens if any of these paragraphs are not fulfilled.
I'm not saying that Natural Selection will make us live forever, just how it is possible to live as long as possible. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good first post =)
But can we f4?
No, before some smart people decided that K is short for 1000, K mean degrees Kelvin. It's basically Celsius with a 0 point at -273 lower. so its not 6.000.000, merely 6000 C
You obviously don't know a freaking thing about the sun, you don't even know what the corona is, maybe you should graduate 8th grade science and figure that out first.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Actually it is 5800 K, which is approximately 5526.85 degrees celcius vs 1300 degrees celcius for the blow torch.
It is only 4.25 times hotter. We're not talking about trillions here.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, it's <b>only</b> 4,500 degrees hotter. It's not that much, only <b>4 times</b> <b>YOU'RE</b> the one who said a blow torch was hotter then the sun in the first place. For someone who was SO INCREDIBLY AND ABSOLUTELY STUPIDLY WRONG the first time, WHY ARE YOU EVEN ARGUING WITH US! You looked like a fool the first time, now you look like a child who gets in a 'UH HUH! NUH UH!' contest.
4.25, because if I have to die by a bus, I'd like to see what a quarter of a bus looks like first.
I was talking about the entire surface of the earth rising to temperatures of "Millions of degrees".
Not even the sun can achieve that at it's surface (NOTE! Surface of sun != Corona!), only as one approaches it's centre.
A blowtorch is all well and good, but it's only a small point when compared to the entire surface area of the sun and/or the earth.
Making a small portion of the earth rise to millions of degrees is fairly easy, making the entire surface of the earth rise to millions of degrees is a good deal tougher.
Even if 95% of the species on earth die, food chains collapse and nature F4's, so what? As long as we have farm plants and farm animals we will be more or less fine (and certainly alive), since we can protect what we need and deposit it in the now empty areas.
If we survive the next couple hundred years and begin colonizing other places we should be set to survive for an extremly long time, assuming none of these happen.
Alien Killing Rampages
Artificial Intelegence turning on us
Cosmic Natural Disaster (Black Hole, antimater)
Since the chance of anything catastrophic happening in the next few hundred years is low I think humanity will become something alot like a weed: spreading across all available space reguardless of whatever happens to be there. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Well, you may have a point. We don't <i>need</i> meat to survive. The only reason we eat it was habit left over from the ice age. But I don't entirely agree with you. Basically all farms depend on animals to provide fertilizer and whatnot. So if the animals died out, the farms wouldn't last long.
Well allow me to address that theory head-on.
Iceburgs are 95% underneath the water, correct (I could be wrong, but I know it is close)?
According to physics, ice is buoyant because it is lighter than water. How much lighter? Approximately 5%. This is no coincidence. If the weight of the ice was the same as the water, the ice burgs would be completely submerged in the water, but they aren't.
So supposing you have an icecube weighing 1 kg floating in the water. 50 grams would be sticking out of the water. As the ice cube melts, that 1 kg turns into 1 kg of water (more dense and takes up less space). So with the 50 grams aside, you would expect the water level to DECREASE since ice weighs less than water. Add in the melted 50 grams of ice, and what does the water level do? It retains its original position.
This isn't a miracle of science. It is a cold hard fact. Nothing is going to get submerged in water. "Waterworld" movie was all fiction. I dont' know what killed 97% of all species, but it wasn't water.
Well allow me to address that theory head-on.
Iceburgs are 95% underneath the water, correct (I could be wrong, but I know it is close)?
According to physics, ice is buoyant because it is lighter than water. How much lighter? Approximately 5%. This is no coincidence. If the weight of the ice was the same as the water, the ice burgs would be completely submerged in the water, but they aren't.
So supposing you have an icecube weighing 1 kg floating in the water. 50 grams would be sticking out of the water. As the ice cube melts, that 1 kg turns into 1 kg of water (more dense and takes up less space). So with the 50 grams aside, you would expect the water level to DECREASE since ice weighs less than water. Add in the melted 50 grams of ice, and what does the water level do? It retains its original position.
This isn't a miracle of science. It is a cold hard fact. Nothing is going to get submerged in water. "Waterworld" movie was all fiction. I dont' know what killed 97% of all species, but it wasn't water. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nice post... now that we have determined that is not going to "kill us all OMG"... time to move on.
What do you think would happen first:
A.) a large meteor strikes earth
B.) Sun turns into Red dwarf
Well the answer is c.) We dont care because by then we are moved to another location through the marvels of technology. Extinction would be niegh impossible if we manage to develop certian travel technologies. Even more so if we find and intigrate with alien races. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->