Hand Nades Blowing Up Inside Onos

Barneys_Soul

<div class="IPBDescription">wil it kil te marine 2 o_O</div> if a arine prames a nade then gets eaten then te nade blows wil te marine die?? and how much indigestion do they giv te onos AKA how much damage <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

Umbraed_Monkey

If you can get it to explode inside the onos, and if you can kill the onos with it, Im sure the marine will be killed.

kommando

thats an awsome idea

Phin

They'd probably make it so if you were priming a grenade and get devoured it'd fall on the floor where you last were. Either that or the onos' stomache acids would dissolve the grenade before it could explode or something...

Thief

I really doubt they would let the rine carry the grenade into the onos, Im guessing it will drop onto the ground if primed (and hopefully stay primed and blow up)

DragonMech

<!--QuoteBegin---Thief-+Dec 6 2003, 11:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-Thief- @ Dec 6 2003, 11:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I really doubt they would let the rine carry the grenade into the onos, Im guessing it will drop onto the ground if primed (and hopefully stay primed and blow up)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can see it now:

<!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> *Primes grenade* "Here Mr. Onos!"
<!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> *Devour*
<!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> "Four...three...two...one!"
*BOOM*
<!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> "God I love doing that."

ThE_HeRo

shouldn't this be in another forum?

Toschy

nice idea but it might couse some balancing probs couse the onis r diing all the time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->

KRagg

Considering the res cost of the onos (102-106) vs the grenade (free on spawn after research) That'd be fine as long as the price of researching it is around 8-12 oni, since this will pretty much mean oni won't be devouring much at all since it'd be an instant loss of onos. It should be comparative in price to its effectiveness.

Retales

The grenade wouldn't have to instantly kill the onos. And why do you keep talking about grenades like they are going to be included in the game? Are they?
/me not know

DoL_Thunder

<!--QuoteBegin--Retales+Dec 7 2003, 09:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Retales @ Dec 7 2003, 09:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The grenade wouldn't have to instantly kill the onos. And why do you keep talking about grenades like they are going to be included in the game? Are they?
/me not know <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hand Grenades are included in the lastest version of the beta.
Theres a render of the model somewhere in the 3.0b changelog post, I believe

FrickenMoron

<!--QuoteBegin--DoL | Thunder+Dec 7 2003, 09:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DoL | Thunder @ Dec 7 2003, 09:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Retales+Dec 7 2003, 09:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Retales @ Dec 7 2003, 09:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The grenade wouldn't have to instantly kill the onos. And why do you keep talking about grenades like they are going to be included in the game? Are they?
/me not know <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hand Grenades are included in the lastest version of the beta.
Theres a render of the model somewhere in the 3.0b changelog post, I believe <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yup, you can click <a href='http://www.shark5060.net/forum/fricken/nade.jpg' target='_blank'>here</a> for proof :o

Diablus

lets see... Odds against onos: Cat-Packs,Fixed hitboxes, and the res cost, do u really think more odds against an onos should increase <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> seeing how 3.0 is leaning toward the marine side somewhat

FrickenMoron

Onos are kind of hard to kill with the new health values.....

Dubbilex

it will be balanced. Fear not: Flay wouldn't make such a massive change as the addition of grenades without first thinking about the implications of it in every gameplay situation.

'Sides....that's what those sucker consties are for <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

Skyrage

Umm...perhaps I'm wrong now, but I had the impression that 'nades were for NS: Combat only??

Dubbilex

nope - nades are in both game modes <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

SDJason

i think it should do 250 damage to health, and 25 to armor...

in no way a guaranteed kill...

The only place it would be a guaranteed kill is endgame, when lamer onos run in vs lvl 3 weapons and just devour nonstop.... u guys know what im talking about

Any other time it will serverely damage the onos, but will not kill him....


~Jason

Mousey

That's a kind of... Odd looking grenade :o

I think Flay has had enough sense in the production thus far, enough that he'll keep it up. Though, it would be kind of cool to use that as a tactic, "Eat me and you'll have heart burn for a year!" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

CommunistWithAGun

Hand grenades are fun...sometimes, but they can get stuck inside some aliens then blow up. Hilarity.

sheena_yanai

<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but they can get stuck inside some aliens then blow up. Hilarity<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->yeah.. they already look like a dildo..makes it easy to stuck them inside a alien ...

there should be written a manual on the nade... put <a href='http://www.shark5060.net/forum/fricken/nade.jpg' target='_blank'>THIS</a> into a skulks butt...

<!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <----- skulk face expression

Ballisto

lol.... yeah the grenade is kind of wimpy and dildo looking.

Diablus

should make it thicker, looks so thin

EDIT: and dont grenades make marine rushes on a hive way too powerful in game start?

Retales

I'm so happy... Handgrenades in NS... mmmmmh <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
But I'm sure I'm going to swear more than once when I get killed by a nade when I'm an alien.

Amped1

If I'm not mistaken, the nade blows up 4 seconds after you throw it, no matter what. That means no priming and no hive rushes unless you can land it on top of the hive. Speaking of dropping nades when you are devoured, why doesn't that happen to all of the weapons? Doesn't make much sense to me. The only reason to not shoot a gun while inside an onos would be to drop it as you are eaten.

Vahn_Paktu

I think atm there is no priming. I have held a nade for more the then blowing up period even though the animation has the pull pin out.

Amped1

Personally, I plan to use my nades on resource towers and WoLs. I am just wondering, is this going to be a good way to use them? Are they good against enemies?

S2R2

was the grenades the surprise Flay was talking about?

JoltGris

<!--QuoteBegin--FrickenMoron+Dec 7 2003, 09:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FrickenMoron @ Dec 7 2003, 09:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DoL | Thunder+Dec 7 2003, 09:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DoL | Thunder @ Dec 7 2003, 09:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Retales+Dec 7 2003, 09:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Retales @ Dec 7 2003, 09:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The grenade wouldn't have to instantly kill the onos. And why do you keep talking about grenades like they are going to be included in the game? Are they?
/me not know <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hand Grenades are included in the lastest version of the beta.
Theres a render of the model somewhere in the 3.0b changelog post, I believe <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yup, you can click <a href='http://www.shark5060.net/forum/fricken/nade.jpg' target='_blank'>here</a> for proof :o <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's one ugly granade

ZdrozZ

<!--QuoteBegin--S2R2+Dec 7 2003, 01:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (S2R2 @ Dec 7 2003, 01:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> was the grenades the surprise Flay was talking about? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, the surprise was the 900/500 onos <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

Greven

OK upon seeing that Gren model i am so headed to the modeling forums for a new gren model!