What Have I Done Wrong?

Apocalipsus · December 2003

I was playing ns the game started and i went to the cc i build a ip a tf and a armory, will 3 of my m8s where build the other one was typing: "Stupid commander, WTH are u doing?? eject him eject him, Learn how to play before going to comm".

So i think i was doing a good job (correct me if im wrong) but what should i do when i go comm so i wotn flammed like tahta again

tanathos · December 2003

Learn to spell <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

On another note... you sure that's all you did ? Because it seems fine to me... Give more details.

surprise · December 2003

nearly no chance...
get used beeing flamed i would guess... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

there will always be a beach that flames you for not giving jps or whatever.

or go and find some servers with better and more tolerant players
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'>

cause at this stage of the game nobody will be able to judge if you are good or not

Snidely · December 2003

Make snide remarks over the fact that they ejected you without anyone else willing to be comm.

Phin · December 2003

Should you build an armoury as a comm, or just an IP + elec TF? Or just an IP and have 1-2 people stay in base an protect it? Just no too sure what's better.
Anyway, it doesn't sound like he had any grounds for giving you crap, so just igrnore nublets like that.

Epidemic · December 2003

Well, perhaps you needed 2 IP (8+) or perhaps that player was angry because you didnt do TF ele defence

Snidely · December 2003

If it was the start of the game, then I find that it's unnecessary to elec base tf or buy 2nd ip straight away. Personally, I only elec base tf when the nearest nodes have been capped (and so the team will be spread out over map), and only second ip when four people are in rein queue. <i>*shrug*</i>

DramaKing · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tanathos @ Dec 15 2003, 12:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Learn to spell <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

On another note... you sure that's all you did ? Because it seems fine to me... Give more details.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I have a suggestion for you, sir. If you indeed have the urge to try and encourage others to spell properly, you should learn proper grammar and general rules of the English language.

****.

That_Annoying_Kid · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DramaKing @ Dec 15 2003, 09:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tanathos @ Dec 15 2003, 12:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Learn to spell <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

On another note... you sure that's all you did ? Because it seems fine to me... Give more details. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I have a suggestion for you, sir. If you indeed have the urge to try and encourage others to spell properly, you should learn proper grammar and general rules of the English language.

****.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
with a period on that sentence and everthing.

grammar and proper verbage tends to be forgoten in the throngs of online forums.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

oh, and just keep comming, learn strats and don't let people who don't know you and are quick to judge stop you from hopping in the CC

X_Stickman · December 2003

Put a "Guard" waypoint on the head of the marine that was flaming you.

P.S, i don't know if you can still do that. I never command because i suck and we lose so badly...

Jammer · December 2003

In 1.0x TFs in base were useless. Some people still consider it a newbie alert if a commander drops a TF. Its not.

The player was being a dork.

Also, if you ARE a newbie commander, find a friendly server and before you get in the chair, say "Hey, I'm a newbie comm, but I want experience. Is it ok if I command?" Most people will be more forgiving, plus you'll generally get more help then attacks.

Aaron · December 2003

Yeah, some people will flame if you put down a TF (but do these people ever com when nobody else will? <i>ooh nooo</i>). For that matter some people will flame you no matter what you do.

DizzyOne · December 2003

maybe it looked like u was doing it all very slow, not giving him a wp or maybe it was a map where relocating has better chance, or maybe u built them in a wrong position or too far away from each other or maybe they were too close to each other, why would u care anyway, did u win? or were u ejected?

SDJason · December 2003

it depends on your style... i know comms that wont even make an ip until both closest res are capped... i know comms who waste ALL starting res on ****...

Comms who use 50 start res to farm
comms who use start res to rush armor/weap 1
comms who use start res for a few shotties

the thing is... its an rts... and unless the comm is being blatantly foolish(building CC or using it all for turrets) he should NOT be ejected... as long as he communicates

Communication is the one thing that leads me to eject commanders.... if u dont type stuff, tell us whats going on, or give us orders... ill vote ur **** out every time...

~Jason

taboofires · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SDJASON @ Dec 15 2003, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> comms who use start res to rush armor/weap 1
comms who use start res for a few shotties  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
These aren't a waste if you follow through with the rush, and actually win.

IBT · December 2003

from what i see... you were doing really good, the guy was just being a ****, prolly just wanting to end the game fast (which i hate with a passion). ignore the ****

Last · December 2003

You built a TF. And TFs are still quite stupid in 2.0, mines tend to be a more effective defense (if placed properly). Elec+TF defense is good when you've got a team of newbs. I'm assuming you built a few turrets too.

Extreme · December 2003

Find a server with good players in it. Usually when the players are good, they will tell you what to do and not eject you instead. Practically every game I play, the comm drops 1 or 2 ips, a tf, and an armory (clustered really close together for when he elecs the tf). I never comm, so I don't have any suggestions for you, except don't give up because people are stupid. Keep comming and you will get the hang of it.

Winter · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Last. @ Dec 15 2003, 06:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You built a TF. And TFs are still quite stupid in 2.0, mines tend to be a more effective defense (if placed properly). Elec+TF defense is good when you've got a team of newbs. I'm assuming you built a few turrets too.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Wrong.

My strat (usually) is one IP, TF + Elec, and Armoury (cuz on pubs people wont do crap until they have 250 ammo) then send EVERYONE out of base to get res nodes. This almost always works. By the time they are ammo-ed up, the skulk rush is over and the lingering one or two skulks wont attack because they're right next to the elec TF.

Imo, Elec TF is excellent base D in start of game.

Last · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([ADEMA] Everwinter @ Dec 15 2003, 11:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Last. @ Dec 15 2003, 06:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You built a TF. And TFs are still quite stupid in 2.0, mines tend to be a more effective defense (if placed properly). Elec+TF defense is good when you've got a team of newbs. I'm assuming you built a few turrets too. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Wrong.

My strat (usually) is one IP, TF + Elec, and Armoury (cuz on pubs people wont do crap until they have 250 ammo) then send EVERYONE out of base to get res nodes. This almost always works. By the time they are ammo-ed up, the skulk rush is over and the lingering one or two skulks wont attack because they're right next to the elec TF.

Imo, Elec TF is excellent base D in start of game.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Play on some decent servers, like reaperville, hamptons or h2o then...

Asal_The_Unforgiving · December 2003

Jeez guys. How about you recognize that each strat has it's ups and downs? I say let the comm do his job, I'll try to do mine. I don't know how you could be kicked that early in game, I always give my comms at least 5 minutes, if not more. It is not a viable option in my opinion, the guy started it, he should finish it.

Nefilim · December 2003

Read the commander section of the forum. It helps quite a bit.

As for dealing with ejectors, ask them if they can get in and do a better job. Most are just all talk and want to eject you for not giving them candy.

Winter · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Last. @ Dec 16 2003, 02:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Play on some decent servers, like reaperville, hamptons or h2o then...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Errm. I do play on Hamptons, and I'm not a fan of the H2O servers really.

But nevertheless, the same can be done on any server. All I'm saying is an elec TF is a good base def in the first few minutes of the game when res is scarce. Care to disagree? Then give me a better alternative. Mine are temporary and people can sacrifice themselves to eliminate them all. Elec TF is permanant (provided that later in game a fade or onos could take it down) but I'm concentrating on the first minutes of game.

tankefugl · December 2003

Part of being a commander is realising the skill of your team and act according to. A good strat is a strat that wins with the current team, not a strat that wins with another team. Do what your marines need to win the game! If it includes "newbie" things, so be it. A good commander should not panic just because his marines can't defend their base without a tf.

Turkey2 · December 2003

When you play with better players (vets, the old ones) or on a server that draws better players like hamptons, you have to adapt your strats. A tf can easily get you ejected there, as will phase tech (at any point of the game). Just things I've seen on servers with a high talent level. A lot of it has to do with style of play. Good aliens tend to ambush more than rush in one at a time. If they rush they rush with a large group. If they come with a large group turrets/elec will do nothing for you anyways without people in your base. Not to mention that res would probably be better spent on upgrades if you have a good team as they will then proceed to dominate with an early armor advantage followed by some quick weps. By getting armor 1 at the beginning those ambushers have lost part of their advantage as even if the y get the first bite they have to get 2 more, and by then you've jumped outta the way and gunned em down.

Anways in most pubs I'd say thats a very valid start. Now if you dropped turrets instead of elec that tf then I think you would see some problems. The other thing is elecing nodes is not really cost efective and thats the reason most people drop tf's.

Roger_Dodger · December 2003

Get the guy that voted you out to comm and watch his strat if it works try his way of doing things. If it doesnt then bag him as much as you want.

- RD

Majin · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X_Stickman @ Dec 15 2003, 01:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Put a "Guard" waypoint on the head of the marine that was flaming you.

P.S, i don't know if you can still do that. I never command because i suck and we lose so badly...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Yeah, you do make ppl lose! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

P.S. I can't talk though, I have poor comm abilities also, I start off OK with a small team but as soon as there are 6 or more ppl all doing there own thing I am screwed!

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