System Shock 2

HuntyHunty Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19244Members
Um my version of System Shock 2 is "Final 1.12",but i can find no patches to upgrade to 2.3 from 1.12....the godmode,no gun degration and nospawn cheats do not work for this version.Im wondering why i have such a "special" version.

Only patch ive found is for 1.15-2.3.

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  • LastLast Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21463Members
    cheats? why... cheat?

    Just play easy mode <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ConfuzorConfuzor Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2412Awaiting Authorization
    I see a <a href='http://www.3dgamers.com/games/systemshock2/' target='_blank'>retail multiplayer patch</a>, but I'm guessing that's useless?
  • HuntyHunty Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19244Members
    Yup.Like i SAID,my version is "Final 1.12",and that patch needs 1.15.I do not know why my version is so damn special.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    poke poke try the SS2 forum, they will know what to do

    or the underdogs, they re good for getting just about anything working <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    There was only 1 patch, the multiplayer one.
  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    It's actually a good thing to disable the weapons degeneration. It wouldn't be an issue if it weren't so poorly implemented, but the way it is really hurts the quality of the experiance.
  • HuntyHunty Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19244Members
    No one posts on the irrational games forum boards anymore.

    Through the looking glass's forums are slightly more active,but they arent sending confirmation emails for registration,and attempting to email the forum admins results in a "Sorry no host named "ttlg.com" was found".

    Really strange.....final 1.12?Was this some leaked version right before release?Hell i paid 30 bucks for this in a jewel case.
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    I like weapon regeneration. There are plenty of weapons and repair tools around and you can increase your repair skill anyway. It just means that, along with the finite amount of ammo, you can't go blasting your way through the levels. The only minus is the re-spawning of mobs. I know I finished the game with craploads of ammo and weapons in tippy-top condition.

    The issue with version differences may have something to do with internationalisation. For example, version 1 was released in the States, whereas version 2 was released a little later in Europe.

    Did anyone ever try going through the game using Psi skills ?
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited December 2003
    Early on, the wrench is your friend. If you get all ninja style with the wrench, you won't NEED to use ammo-based weapons. Early on, all you should need your pistol for is 1. Shooting out security cameras. 2. Shooting out protocol Droids. 3. Shooting out some turrets if you suck at hacking. When you get the AR and can kill anything with 1-3 shots, you should have enough repairtools and ammo to use it for the rest of the game. Alternatly, go PSI and have fun going invisible and hacking turrets with security still on. OR, getting enough melee bonuses and a crystal shard, allowing you to kill a rumbler in two swings. Fun!


    You shouldn't need to use ammo for the first two decks. you'll start needing ammo on deck three. By the time you clean out the cargobays, you should have between 90 and 120 rounds of 9mm blue. Also: don't waste nanites on 9mm blue. Seriously. Save it for more hard to get ammo. If you are a grenade fancier, buy some of those. If you like assualt rifles, I would reccomend either AA or AP ammo - AP ammo is especally handy later. If you are planning to use the plasma cannon, buy prisms. If you like lasors, you may want to invest in some backup batteries - even though using PSI for this purpose is much cheaper in terms of nanites. If you are a PSI fancier, then buy lots and lots of PSI hypos. You shouldn't paticularly need to run around fireballing everything if you fight smart using PSI, but the more reserve PSI you have, the better.
  • HuntyHunty Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19244Members
    Funny,people are posting about hints and tips,not to addrese my problem.
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    A quick search of the Google groups indicates that v1.12 is a pre-release version that should never have been released. It ended up in the hands of pirates and was predominantly sold in Asia. v1.15 is the "official" version. I suspect you will not find any "official" support for it or an upgrade from 1.12 to 1.15.
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    You could get the SSmod manager, It lets you choose things like that.
  • HuntyHunty Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19244Members
    OMG i paid 30 bucks for a pre-release version -.-

    Tried searching for info related to SS2 1.12.All i got was a bunch of crap about coporate systems blah blah 1.12 blah blah -.-

    Anyway i just completed the game.Pretty cool,but the character models were a bit...fake looking.Particularly the humans.Flat fases,pointy elbows,etc.

    SPOILER WARNING :







    Firstly,i would like to say SS2's plot was EXCELLENT.Too many RPGs have paper-thin plots now.It leaves a lot of questions though,makes you think.

    About the ending part,after i blew up the many's brain,how come rumblers,cyborg midwifes,still kept spawning and attacking?And what does the many say after i blew up the brain?I couldnt hear it too clearly,what with all the attacking noises,my gunfire and the music.Anyone can tell me with text?And after i jump into the hole the many leaves,its a waterfall road right?Theres a point where you get diverted into the LEFT hole....and into shodans reality.Is it possible to continue going forward?What would happen?

    Delacroix : Where IS delacroix?Where did she die?In shodan's reality?How did shodan betray her?How did delacroix get to shodan's reality?Wheres her body?The 2001 FAQ on gamefaqs says that the body in shuttle bay 2 is delacroix,but im not to sure.How did delacroix get those audio logs into shodan's reality if she died in shuttle bay 2?What did shodan ask delacroix to do?Tasks like the one she gave my character?I tried summon_obj delacroix,but all it created was a invisible and unkillable character(you could see the selection box and health bar) that you could walk through.

    Tommy and Rebecca : In one of the audio logs,tommy says that he and rebecca are going into cryo-freeze for 30 years.But in the escape pod,.7 billion miles from von bruan(i think it says billion,not sure),tommy is standing,looking out into space,and saying something(for some reason,the speech for shodan and tommy's ending scene was VERY low volume and sounded a bit unclear.).I think he said something like "Rebecca has done nothing but sleep since we escaped in this pod" then the rest is extremely unclear.Then shodan appears behind tommy,and says "Whats the matter tommy?" and after that,its unclear.Though its clear that shodan is taunting tommy.Anyone can tell me exactly what they said?Another question : How could Rebecca be Shodan?!Rebecca is a real,live crew member of the von bruan,and shodan was in a fragment on tau ceti V.Did shodan kill rebecca,then create a robotic body in her likeness,and escape with tommy as a backup plan in case delacroix and the player couldnt kill the many?

    Misc questions on the storyline :

    Who is that guy at the engineering control,the apparition?He looks like the player,and has a gun.Is he one of the military guys with cyber implants?Why is he in engineering control,and sucided?Where is his body?

    The woman who re-codes the lock to the fludicis control computer says she re-coded it to "hold them" but if she did,she obviously intended to hide in the fluidics computer room,but instead,she ran to the cargo bay 2.Why?If she intended to hide in cargo bay 2,why bother re-coding the lock?

    Why did the humans die to the many so fast?I mean bronson had dozens of security men,in combat armor,with pistols,shotguns and a few assault rifles.They shouldnt have died so fast.And the soldiers on the ricken backer...these were military men,with weapons and equipment.Yet,they died to hybrids/spiders easily.Btw wheres that connor guy(spelling probably wrong) who leaves audio logs explaining how to reverse the gravitronic generator?Is he the dead guy on the other side of the hull breech?But how did he die...theres no nearby enemies,no turrets,nothing.

    That patafene guy in the many....he was obviously infected,yet he could think logically and without the many controlling him.He also got killed by the grinding towers,yet he was infected,and shouldnt have.Also if he got killed by the grinding towers,why is his body so far away from there?Im assuming the guy with the audio log IS his body.

    Last one : Malik says hes going to show bronson his 2 crystal shards.Does he?We know bronson dies to lots of shotgun hybrids,or the alternative are,shotgun carrying UNN marines that were mind-controlled(diego did say he was going to stop bronson).Btw how does bronson and her last men die?They were in a locked room,with bullet proof doors and windows.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    <a href='http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/game/24167.html' target='_blank'>SS2 on Game Faqs, all you could probably ever want to know about it.</a>
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Hunty+Dec 18 2003, 05:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hunty @ Dec 18 2003, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Misc questions on the storyline :

    Who is that guy at the engineering control,the apparition?He looks like the player,and has a gun.Is he one of the military guys with cyber implants?Why is he in engineering control,and sucided?Where is his body?

    The woman who re-codes the lock to the fludicis control computer says she re-coded it to "hold them" but if she did,she obviously intended to hide in the fluidics computer room,but instead,she ran to the cargo bay 2.Why?If she intended to hide in cargo bay 2,why bother re-coding the lock?

    Why did the humans die to the many so fast?I mean bronson had dozens of security men,in combat armor,with pistols,shotguns and a few assault rifles.They shouldnt have died so fast.And the soldiers on the ricken backer...these were military men,with weapons and equipment.Yet,they died to hybrids/spiders easily.Btw wheres that connor guy(spelling probably wrong) who leaves audio logs explaining how to reverse the gravitronic generator?Is he the dead guy on the other side of the hull breech?But how did he die...theres no nearby enemies,no turrets,nothing.

    That patafene guy in the many....he was obviously infected,yet he could think logically and without the many controlling him.He also got killed by the grinding towers,yet he was infected,and shouldnt have.Also if he got killed by the grinding towers,why is his body so far away from there?Im assuming the guy with the audio log IS his body.

    Last one : Malik says hes going to show bronson his 2 crystal shards.Does he?We know bronson dies to lots of shotgun hybrids,or the alternative are,shotgun carrying UNN marines that were mind-controlled(diego did say he was going to stop bronson).Btw how does bronson and her last men die?They were in a locked room,with bullet proof doors and windows. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    SPOILERs



    The humans died so fast because, they were called to deck 3 one by one, in one of the logs you hear someone saying when they call me, ill be ready for em *shotgun clicks*. Its also implied that the worms were let lose and many people became the many, after that they had most of the ship and just killed the rest or used them to further the grow of the many.

    The guy in engineerying is beleived to another one of SHODANs attempts at gaining controll of the ship.

    The woman re-codes the lock, but moves to cargo bay 2 to look for more survivors.

    The guy who gets litraly eaten by the many made it off the rickenbacker but got caught as a human on the ship, he didnt get....assimalated/infected.

    The many who were former crew members still had acces cards and thats how they gained acces, the guy who reprogramed the SIM unit left a surprise to.
  • HuntyHunty Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19244Members
    To the person who put the game faqs link : No they do not provide the answers to my questions.

    Yea but the people who got called down to deck 3 were not security personnel.And does norris pump the shotgun in the audio log?Didnt hear it,but then,could be the music/soft voice.

    If you listen to the pantomine,his voice sounds like one of the infected.Listen to diego/anatoly's voice logs at the point where they are infected and babbling about the joy of the many.At some points of their speech,their voice becomes very rough and they sound like,well,demons from some hollywood movie.
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