<!--QuoteBegin--Wheeee+Dec 23 2003, 10:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Dec 23 2003, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Cons: 1) Helps to legitimize sexual irresponsibility <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But we've already done that. People are told today that sex is an alright thing and you shouldn't be afraid to experiment. To this end we already have many forms of contraception available, and more new kinds on the way. This is just another kind of contraceptive in an increasing pool of options that are slowly being made available.
I would just be more concerned about safety and fertility issues of some of the newer contraceptives, and ensure that older more reliable forms of contraceptive were encouraged to be used first over the pill for example.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But we've already done that. People are told today that sex is an alright thing and you shouldn't be afraid to experiment. To this end we already have many forms of contraception available, and more new kinds on the way. This is just another kind of contraceptive in an increasing pool of options that are slowly being made available. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Told by the media, perhaps. I know that's not what my parents told me.
<!--QuoteBegin--Wheeee+Dec 23 2003, 10:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Dec 23 2003, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, let's list the basic facts about making the drug over-the-counter, without dealing with the ethics of using it first.
Pros: 1) Probably would protect a person's privacy. 2) Can be used immediately without having a doctor prescribe it (which I imagine could raise its effectiveness)
Cons: 1) Helps to legitimize sexual irresponsibility
Feel free to add, I can't remember if people have actually said things other than this.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But this thread is about making the drug over-the-counter, which has nothing to do with that issue, so don't even think about bringing it up. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But why not? If we're going to make it so that we can get other forms of contraception over the counter why not this one? Most people won't even terminate a zygote every time they use it as human bodies are more fickle than people realise. It is better to have such a precaution available to those who want it than not to. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This isn't contraception, as pointed out earlier, it's abortion. I mean, unless you define contraception to be something other than <!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->"con·tra·cep·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kntr-spshn) n. Intentional prevention of conception or impregnation through the use of various devices, agents, drugs, sexual practices, or surgical procedures. "<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Sometimes the MAP stops a zygote from developing but other times it stops it from being formed so it is contraception.
<!--QuoteBegin--Handman+Dec 18 2003, 09:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Handman @ Dec 18 2003, 09:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Before I start, i might as well make my stance on abortion clear. I am niether pro-life nor pro-choice, I believe there are times when abortion is called for and times when they are not. Everyone know the risks of sex, and if you are not willing to deal with the outcome than don't have it(aka mastuerbate). I am against abortion being used as a convenience to not be responsible for you actions, both the male and female need to take resposibitly for their action.
The major problem i see with this pill is that it has the potential to do more evil than good. Kids will use this as an excuse not to use a condom, believe me they will. The number of STD cases in teens will increase.
<!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> all spelling errors are for artistic merit <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok.. <b>Handman</b>
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Cons:
1) Helps to legitimize sexual irresponsibility <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
But we've already done that. People are told today that sex is an alright thing and you shouldn't be afraid to experiment. To this end we already have many forms of contraception available, and more new kinds on the way. This is just another kind of contraceptive in an increasing pool of options that are slowly being made available.
I would just be more concerned about safety and fertility issues of some of the newer contraceptives, and ensure that older more reliable forms of contraceptive were encouraged to be used first over the pill for example.
But we've already done that. People are told today that sex is an alright thing and you shouldn't be afraid to experiment. To this end we already have many forms of contraception available, and more new kinds on the way. This is just another kind of contraceptive in an increasing pool of options that are slowly being made available. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Told by the media, perhaps.
I know that's not what my parents told me.
Pros:
1) Probably would protect a person's privacy.
2) Can be used immediately without having a doctor prescribe it (which I imagine could raise its effectiveness)
Cons:
1) Helps to legitimize sexual irresponsibility
Feel free to add, I can't remember if people have actually said things other than this.
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But this thread is about making the drug over-the-counter, which has nothing to do with that issue, so don't even think about bringing it up.
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But why not? If we're going to make it so that we can get other forms of contraception over the counter why not this one? Most people won't even terminate a zygote every time they use it as human bodies are more fickle than people realise. It is better to have such a precaution available to those who want it than not to.
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This isn't contraception, as pointed out earlier, it's abortion. I mean, unless you define contraception to be something other than
<!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->"con·tra·cep·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kntr-spshn)
n.
Intentional prevention of conception or impregnation through the use of various devices, agents, drugs, sexual practices, or surgical procedures.
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Sometimes the MAP stops a zygote from developing but other times it stops it from being formed so it is contraception.
The major problem i see with this pill is that it has the potential to do more evil than good. Kids will use this as an excuse not to use a condom, believe me they will. The number of STD cases in teens will increase.
<!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> all spelling errors are for artistic merit <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok.. <b>Handman</b>
Pro-Life: Its a life!
Pro-Choice: OMG RELIGION VIEW BAD!
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In this case it would be more like:
Pro-Life: every sperm is sacred!
Pro-Choice: OMG, they almost make fun of themselves without our help!