Me? Winfast Geforce 4 Ti4200. I like it. I still like it. Why did I get it? Some of my friends had them and said they were good. I might change to a Radeon depending on how Half Life 2 & Doom 3 fare on my current card.
<!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+Dec 21 2003, 05:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Dec 21 2003, 05:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Elderwyrm+Dec 21 2003, 09:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elderwyrm @ Dec 21 2003, 09:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, ATI really is smoking these days. Although for all you people going 9600 Pro, just think, for a few extra bucks you get a better card (however slight) and -50$ for your HL2 Certificate. Its quite simple to see which I'd recommend if your getting a 96k. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I personally prefer getting All in Wonder than paying 50 bucks more for a gift voucher for a $50 game and lose AiW capacities.
sender, can your friend be my friend? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, well if you get the ASUS version for only a few bucks more you get a better cooled card AND all the AIW stuff.
<!--QuoteBegin--Bijiy+Dec 21 2003, 03:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Dec 21 2003, 03:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> FX5600 256ddr, cause it suits my needs and other things. Not to bad of a price either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I used to have that card as well, It suited me well in it's prime...
R9800Pro because i want to play at 1600x1200res with 6xAA and 16xAF <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I have a ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256 meg. I have it because ATI has proven to beet NVidia so many times... Is there any way to find out if you have a AGP slot without opening your comp??
<!--QuoteBegin--nukeaqua+Dec 21 2003, 06:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (nukeaqua @ Dec 21 2003, 06:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have a ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256 meg. I have it because ATI has proven to beet NVidia so many times... Is there any way to find out if you have a AGP slot without opening your comp?? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, but alot of cases side will come off without even needing a screwdriver. It will be the brownish slot above the white slots.
BTW. I'm getting a 9800XT soon and I want to know whether I have 8x AGP or 4x. How could I find out and are the benefits really that much. I've heard things both ways about 8x Slots from hardly helping at all to being a complete godsend.
Built By ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb. Good card for a decent price (USD $280)
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Getting a Radeon 9600XT soon as HL2 comes out (which will be in a few months, by then it will cost maybe $200 tops and I get my copy of HL2 for free).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dont count on it, the free Halflife 2 offer is supposed to be ending sometime in January. Better pounce on that quickly.
<!--QuoteBegin--Elderwyrm+Dec 21 2003, 06:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elderwyrm @ Dec 21 2003, 06:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+Dec 21 2003, 05:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Dec 21 2003, 05:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Elderwyrm+Dec 21 2003, 09:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elderwyrm @ Dec 21 2003, 09:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, ATI really is smoking these days. Although for all you people going 9600 Pro, just think, for a few extra bucks you get a better card (however slight) and -50$ for your HL2 Certificate. Its quite simple to see which I'd recommend if your getting a 96k. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I personally prefer getting All in Wonder than paying 50 bucks more for a gift voucher for a $50 game and lose AiW capacities.
sender, can your friend be my friend? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, well if you get the ASUS version for only a few bucks more you get a better cooled card AND all the AIW stuff. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> do you? D:
I was running a GeForce 2MX so i figured anything was an improvement over it, and for a card that cost around $50, that's not too bad really.
I'm also in the market for a second card (for outputting a seperate device) so does anyone have any ideas as to what would be a good suggestion for a PCI card, since my AGP is full.
<!--QuoteBegin--Sandrock+Dec 22 2003, 12:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sandrock @ Dec 22 2003, 12:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Built By ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb. Good card for a decent price (USD $280)
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Getting a Radeon 9600XT soon as HL2 comes out (which will be in a few months, by then it will cost maybe $200 tops and I get my copy of HL2 for free).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dont count on it, the free Halflife 2 offer is supposed to be ending sometime in January. Better pounce on that quickly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Dude I saw a 9600XT in a Best Buy catalogue for 199$
And I buy most of my computer parts on newegg.com cereal, cheap prices and they deliver really fast (Across the Country in 2 Days. And no, I always get the worst shipping because I'm poor) I'm getting a 9800XT and the ASUS one was like 20-30$ more and it has a second fan, a copper heatsink, and all the AIW capabilities.
<!--QuoteBegin--Vulgar Menace+Dec 22 2003, 10:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vulgar Menace @ Dec 22 2003, 10:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lets make ALL our cards a little faster, hm?
Okie dokey, get to your BIOS screen and put your AGPP mode at 4x
Set the AGP aperature size to exactly half of your system ram
make sure settings like AGP fast write and AGP master WS Write/Read are set to enabled
If you have a good card look for the Video Memory Cache setting and change it to USWC
Disable obselete functions, eg. BIOS shadow abd Video Bios Cache Settings (unless you play graphically intensive dos games) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> AGP should be 4x and not 8x? and AGP aperature should be 512 megs? or by system ram do you mean card ram? and in that case, it shouldn't be set to total card ram (like 128)?
<!--QuoteBegin--TychoCelchuuu+Dec 20 2003, 06:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Dec 20 2003, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've got a Gainward GeForce 4 Ti4200, because it's a GeForce 4. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Same here in 128mb flavour. Nice mix of price vrs performance. Is coming up for 1 year old, I will probably think about upgrading to an ATI type card later next year. Am waiting to find out how Halflife 2 runs.
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No. Video Memory Aperture is how much system memory your video card can use, once its on-board supply runs out. If you have a decent amount of memory on your card, just leave it set to 64 or 32MB. It's unlikely the card will use enough textures to go into sysmem. Some cards can error if you have them set to an equal amount, or half-amount (meaning setting it to 128MB on a 128MB card, or 64MB on a 128MB card).
As well, Fast Write mode is a negligible speed boost when running at anything over AGP 1x. And it can cause stability issues on a lot of machines. I'd recommend turning it off.
BIOS shadow I leave on as it's a safety measure... it does affect more than DOS games, in other words. Though you can tweak it to precisely match your card's profile, if it takes up a smaller footprint than the default. 'Video Bios Cache Settings' I've never seen in a BIOS. Perhaps on a board with an integrated video card, but nothing on any decent board I've used. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Elderwyrm+Dec 22 2003, 01:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elderwyrm @ Dec 22 2003, 01:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Built By ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb. Good card for a decent price (USD $280)
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Getting a Radeon 9600XT soon as HL2 comes out (which will be in a few months, by then it will cost maybe $200 tops and I get my copy of HL2 for free).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dont count on it, the free Halflife 2 offer is supposed to be ending sometime in January. Better pounce on that quickly. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The HL2 rebate ones will still be in circulation though <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Unless ATI plans to void the rebates before the game is even released.
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Id recomend it with prices falling you should be able to get it between £200-£270
or out of the HL2 box
I personally prefer getting All in Wonder than paying 50 bucks more for a gift voucher for a $50 game and lose AiW capacities.
sender, can your friend be my friend? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, well if you get the ASUS version for only a few bucks more you get a better cooled card AND all the AIW stuff.
Yay go me!
(It came with the comp and I really can't be bother to change it)
I used to have that card as well, It suited me well in it's prime...
I have it because ATI has proven to beet NVidia so many times...
Is there any way to find out if you have a AGP slot without opening your comp??
Why? Because i soft-modded it so it runs at the same as a 9800Pro
£370 for £160.
Ownage
I have it because ATI has proven to beet NVidia so many times...
Is there any way to find out if you have a AGP slot without opening your comp?? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, but alot of cases side will come off without even needing a screwdriver. It will be the brownish slot above the white slots.
BTW. I'm getting a 9800XT soon and I want to know whether I have 8x AGP or 4x. How could I find out and are the benefits really that much. I've heard things both ways about 8x Slots from hardly helping at all to being a complete godsend.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Getting a Radeon 9600XT soon as HL2 comes out (which will be in a few months, by then it will cost maybe $200 tops and I get my copy of HL2 for free).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dont count on it, the free Halflife 2 offer is supposed to be ending sometime in January. Better pounce on that quickly.
Why? Because i soft-modded it so it runs at the same as a 9800Pro
£370 for £160.
Ownage <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
grrr
I personally prefer getting All in Wonder than paying 50 bucks more for a gift voucher for a $50 game and lose AiW capacities.
sender, can your friend be my friend? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, well if you get the ASUS version for only a few bucks more you get a better cooled card AND all the AIW stuff. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
do you? D:
*shakes Elderwyrm around*
TELL ME WHERE D:
I was running a GeForce 2MX so i figured anything was an improvement over it, and for a card that cost around $50, that's not too bad really.
I'm also in the market for a second card (for outputting a seperate device) so does anyone have any ideas as to what would be a good suggestion for a PCI card, since my AGP is full.
Cause it runs NS decently with some AA.
That and it came with my laptop....
Why: It way the best thing on the market when I bought it, it wasnt even a week old! Cost me 600 buck (cdn) ATT.
Okie dokey, get to your BIOS screen and put your AGPP mode at 4x
Set the AGP aperature size to exactly half of your system ram
make sure settings like AGP fast write and AGP master WS Write/Read are set to enabled
If you have a good card look for the Video Memory Cache setting and change it to USWC
Disable obselete functions, eg. BIOS shadow abd Video Bios Cache Settings (unless you play graphically intensive dos games)
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Getting a Radeon 9600XT soon as HL2 comes out (which will be in a few months, by then it will cost maybe $200 tops and I get my copy of HL2 for free).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dont count on it, the free Halflife 2 offer is supposed to be ending sometime in January. Better pounce on that quickly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dude I saw a 9600XT in a Best Buy catalogue for 199$
And I buy most of my computer parts on newegg.com cereal, cheap prices and they deliver really fast (Across the Country in 2 Days. And no, I always get the worst shipping because I'm poor) I'm getting a 9800XT and the ASUS one was like 20-30$ more and it has a second fan, a copper heatsink, and all the AIW capabilities.
Okie dokey, get to your BIOS screen and put your AGPP mode at 4x
Set the AGP aperature size to exactly half of your system ram
make sure settings like AGP fast write and AGP master WS Write/Read are set to enabled
If you have a good card look for the Video Memory Cache setting and change it to USWC
Disable obselete functions, eg. BIOS shadow abd Video Bios Cache Settings (unless you play graphically intensive dos games) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
AGP should be 4x and not 8x? and AGP aperature should be 512 megs? or by system ram do you mean card ram? and in that case, it shouldn't be set to total card ram (like 128)?
/me is a confused newb.
Same here in 128mb flavour. Nice mix of price vrs performance. Is coming up for 1 year old, I will probably think about upgrading to an ATI type card later next year. Am waiting to find out how Halflife 2 runs.
As well, Fast Write mode is a negligible speed boost when running at anything over AGP 1x. And it can cause stability issues on a lot of machines. I'd recommend turning it off.
BIOS shadow I leave on as it's a safety measure... it does affect more than DOS games, in other words. Though you can tweak it to precisely match your card's profile, if it takes up a smaller footprint than the default.
'Video Bios Cache Settings' I've never seen in a BIOS. Perhaps on a board with an integrated video card, but nothing on any decent board I've used. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Getting a Radeon 9600XT soon as HL2 comes out (which will be in a few months, by then it will cost maybe $200 tops and I get my copy of HL2 for free).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dont count on it, the free Halflife 2 offer is supposed to be ending sometime in January. Better pounce on that quickly. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The HL2 rebate ones will still be in circulation though <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Unless ATI plans to void the rebates before the game is even released.