This Is Sick...

AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Can they really do this to kids?</div> <a href='http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,987172,00.html?=rss' target='_blank'>http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/st...72,00.html?=rss</a>

When you have a teenager on the rampage, who are you going to turn to? In America, parents send their troubled offspring to Jamaica's Tranquility Bay - a 'behaviour-modification centre' which charges $40,000 a year to 'cure' them. Decca Aitkenhead, the first journalist to gain access to the centre in five years, wonders if there isn't too high a price to pay.

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  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    If you're just going on what you read there, you ain't heard the half of it. Go find the testimonials from people who got out, they tell some real horror stories.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Yep. This is about the 500th time this has been posted, and it still makes me sick.
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    Yes.

    This wouldn't be so much of an issue if there was like a screening to get in.

    However, parents can put their children here for ANY reason. While there are certainly children here who need it, there are also people who were placed here for equally idiotic reasons. For example, oen girl was placed in the institute because she got a boyfriend her parents didn't like. Therefore, the parents decided she was "out of control".


    Sooooo yeah.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    I'd be hella rebellious if I went there, probably get whomped on, but hey, well worth it.
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    I heard of this before. Sick.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Dec 25 2003, 12:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Dec 25 2003, 12:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd be hella rebellious if I went there, probably get whomped on, but hey, well worth it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You'd be hella beat on by big jamaicans is what!
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Dec 24 2003, 10:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Dec 24 2003, 10:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yep. This is about the 500th time this has been posted, and it still makes me sick. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And it still makes me want to go on a rampage.

    Ticket to Jamaica, please, one-way. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JefeJefe Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15734Members, Constellation
    make that two

    The real horror about the testimonials is that each one of them sounds exactly the same. "I was horrible before, but now I'm good. If it wasn't for this place, I would have been out on the streets." It's brainwashing.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    edited December 2003
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=37921&hl=tranquility+bay' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...tranquility+bay</a>


    if that link dont work search for

    Holy crap this is scary as hell
    Teenager Brain washing

    post by acer_r

    you can find lots of the NS communitys hatred and disgust for this camp plus several attack/rescue misson plans for forum fans to go liberate those kiddies. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    OK, here's what we do. G-unit distracts teh front guards while Frosty squad hits the bunkers in the back. take no prisoners and free the kids from their 6x6 cells in under 5 minutes, or the jamaican police will arive because of a alarm under the desk in his office.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Dec 24 2003, 10:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Dec 24 2003, 10:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Dec 25 2003, 12:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Dec 25 2003, 12:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd be hella rebellious if I went there, probably get whomped on, but hey, well worth it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You'd be hella beat on by big jamaicans is what! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I already said that in my post.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->you can find lots of the NS communitys hatred and disgust for this camp plus several attack/rescue misson plans for forum fans to go liberate those kiddies.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, I've got Bravo and Charlie coming in from the north at 0800. What's your current position? I think we'll be able to save these kids once and for all. ~_^
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Dec 25 2003, 12:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Dec 25 2003, 12:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Dec 24 2003, 10:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Dec 24 2003, 10:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Dec 25 2003, 12:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Dec 25 2003, 12:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd be hella rebellious if I went there, probably get whomped on, but hey, well worth it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You'd be hella beat on by big jamaicans is what! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I already said that in my post. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    /me gets the shifty eyes

    But.........mine was..........funnier.........yeah.......

    /me runs away
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Maveric+Dec 24 2003, 10:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Dec 24 2003, 10:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OK, here's what we do. G-unit distracts teh front guards while Frosty squad hits the bunkers in the back. take no prisoners and free the kids from their 6x6 cells in under 5 minutes, or the jamaican police will arive because of a alarm under the desk in his office. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Boats will have the Engines pumping at the dock, ready to go.
    Bravo has the roofs covered with Tranquilizer Sniper Rifles, Charles' infiltrating and they have 3 minutes per cell.

    Anyone else have mission report?
  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    Hey what do I do with this thing, it says "3 ticks detonate," all I'm hearing are these ticks, I'm going to go ask Team Charlie what it is.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Someone brought this up in the discussion forums, it sickend me so much I can only discuss it once...sorry <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    By the way, they're not allowed to hit you. They use mental tactics.

    If there were some sort of screening process, I wouldn't care. I think they should put in a screening process.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited December 2003
    i think that the screening process should be for the parents. like... they analyze how much of a piece of **** parent you are.
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    lol i think its funny. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> but then again I have a weird/funny outlook on life <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    that really sucks.. theonly thing i have had to do is anger management... so that place wouldnt help me..

    i am a big guy... with a big temper and add lol that makes for some very RAAAWR behaviour...

    i have a problem with authority :s i just cant deal with it
  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    What about the part that they would grind your ankles?
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    this has been posted before, but it's still O_O
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    I wouldn't mind it as long as the system was state controled (Therefore people couldn't send their kids there for like lame reasons, like "OMG MY DAUGHTER HAD SEX0R! BANT!) and make it part of the schooling system. Call me wrong or whatever but many teachers would love the school to be able to send certain "students" to these types of facilitys.

    I mean look at the UK it costs a school £1000 to <b>EXPELL</b> a student, even if the little s*** went and blew up a science lab it would still cost £1000.

    I mean thats immediatly wrong. If someone is being a constant pain in the backside and assulting fellow pupils and so you cannot expel them unless you pay. Its one of the reasons the college I attend is have behaviour problems in the lower years.

    I would love to see a system where a head could walk up to an unrulely student and say "I do not want to see you in my school any more, we are shipping you out to Tranquility Bay"

    But then again my school life was ruined by a lot of these types of people. At least in my year the school was able to Expell without fine.
  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    edited December 2003
    thats not too fair...


    if the parents send them there, for w/e reason it is theyre choice... whats that film? the one with katie holmes? where they have an operation which turns them into like mindless kids.. like good kids... i cant remember it :S

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    <a href='http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134619/' target='_blank'>This Movie</a>

    'Plot Outline: The new kid in town stumbles across something sinister about the town's method of transforming its unruly teens into upstanding citizens. '
  • BirdyBirdy Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16825Members, Constellation
    I remember a topic about this a year ago or something <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    I dont think employing those methods and turning the kids to a certain ideology is wrong, on soo many levels...
    Anyway, can they keep them in? I mean, isnt that illegal? I mean, 18 months with your face lying down, I'd go crazy
    I would prompty refuse all sorts of punishments and restrictions
  • BirdyBirdy Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16825Members, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    I would come out worse.
    Probably ending up as a psycho after i killed the whole facility <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I thought it was ilegal to torture childeren even if your parents agree.
  • ironpancakeironpancake Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16643Members
    18 months of lying on your face. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> Honestly i think lying on your face for a year and a half has got the be the biggest waste of life i have ever heard of. They may be trying to set you on the straight and narrow but I don't think wasting your life and torturing people is the way you are going to go about doing that.

    I have an enormous problem with authority. If i went there I doubt i would be able to restrain myself from cursing out the guards even if i tried. If my parents were to send me there I would most likely not be out for a VERY long time. Probabley stay there to 18.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    Well, what I say is, the methods would be unnessary if people would SUYF, but thats the thing, some people just have to much of an ego to do what they are told. The only reason people stay in there for so long is because they are idiots, its really not that hard to be quiet and do what you are told. You could be out of there pretty fast if you just did what they said. Also, it's stupid how over protective parents send their kids there for the littlest thing, but in that case, if the kid wasn't that bad he should have no problem staying good for a month or two and getting out. Parts of the article are written to make it sound like the kids are reduced to a bunch of puppets, now I have never been there or know first hand, but don't completely trust a single article written by only one person.

    Also this reminds me of an "outter limits" episode, it was the one where this family moves overnight to this neighborhood that is all perfect. But it turns out that the way they punish the kids who disobey is by putting them into a grinder and mking them into mulch... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> really good episode.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    "Well, what I say is, the methods would be unnessary if people would SUYF, but thats the thing, some people just have to much of an ego to do what they are told."

    That or people are too smart to be controlled and would rather face torture than be controlled or forcecd to change their views.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    edited December 2003
    Yes, but you have to draw a line between standing up for your rights, and doing it to the point of blind stupidity. its about manipulation, do what they say for a month or two, you get home, act nice, your parents are all happy, then do whatever you want. It's not about what you do, but what they think you are doing.

    EDIT: Wooowooo *Starts new page*
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