I'm Not Worried About 3.0 Release.

explodingheadboyexplodingheadboy Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15636Members, Constellation
edited December 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">I would like to see more news though.</div> I honestly don't care when 3.0 gets released. Although flayra has stated (I think it was flayra) in the news post on natural-selection.org that it would be out in the holiday season. I am disappointed that we haven't at least heard from the team yet, but that is understandable, this is the holidays and they probably have families to attend to like the rest of us.

<i>(That means all of you forumgoers who have been whining about the lack of NS 3.0 should get out of your computer chairs and visit yours, possibly get some fresh air, man you all stink.)</i> (<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)

Anyway, I really am disappointed by the lack of news, more than the lack of the next version. The next version can wait as far as I'm concerned. But it bothers me that the community isn't kept up to date at all.

Of course we're frothing at the mouth about this, we haven't heard any news in weeks. Natural-Selection.org hasnt been updated for a while, rather, its more like a big advertisement than a homepage. And readyroom.org isn't much better, they havent posted much in a long time either.

All I'd like to see is that the community is given more honest information and kept up to date with news about what is going on with the development process.

Why is everything so hush hush?

Edit: I suck, bad grammar, should have used preview, blah blah blah, please flame me for any mistakes I missed.

Comments

  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    there is nothing to keep the general public "up" on...

    playtesting has reached a halt... with the next patch, there will be more news.

    classic NS has been deemed un-playable with a hole in the resource system

    Combat has reached a "play cheap... or lose" point... with no balance or counter to onos or Jetpacks...


    so until the next patch, there is nothing we can really say...
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Delarosa+Dec 26 2003, 08:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delarosa @ Dec 26 2003, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there is nothing to keep the general public "up" on...

    playtesting has reached a halt... with the next patch, there will be more news.

    classic NS has been deemed un-playable with a hole in the resource system

    Combat has reached a "play cheap... or lose" point... with no balance or counter to onos or Jetpacks...


    so until the next patch, there is nothing we can really say... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Errr.. what?

    The counter to jetpacks are onos.
  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    hard for a slow moving ground bond life form to kill a fast moving air bond life form
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    Flayra, like every other person during the holiday seasons, was probably busy with other things. NS is Flays job.. Well, chances are he took the holidays off to do other things.. Just like many people do. Making NS can probably be a bit stressful.. Balance issues, bugs.. people either demanding or asking constantly about when the next version will be out. The guy deserves a break more often.
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ANeM+Dec 26 2003, 09:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Dec 26 2003, 09:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flayra, like every other person during the holiday seasons, was probably busy with other things. NS is Flays job.. Well, chances are he took the holidays off to do other things.. Just like many people do. Making NS can probably be a bit stressful.. Balance issues, bugs.. people either demanding or asking constantly about when the next version will be out. The guy deserves a break more often. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Though I have no idea how Flayra's real-life happenings are going for the holidays, this reminded me that he may be busy doing paperwork, legal mumbo-jumbo, or other such things to start Unknown Worlds Entertainment (refer to NS's official website and <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=57372&st=0' target='_blank'>this thread</a> for more info.)
  • Umbraed_MonkeyUmbraed_Monkey Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9922Members
    Is that what all great game designers do when they have free time over the winter holidays? Start companies?
  • PowerslavEPowerslavE Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21962Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Dec 26 2003, 06:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Dec 26 2003, 06:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Delarosa+Dec 26 2003, 08:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delarosa @ Dec 26 2003, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there is nothing to keep the general public "up" on...

    playtesting has reached a halt... with the next patch, there will be more news.

    classic NS has been deemed un-playable with a hole in the resource system

    Combat has reached a "play cheap... or lose" point... with no balance or counter to onos or Jetpacks...


    so until the next patch, there is nothing we can really say... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Errr.. what?

    The counter to jetpacks are onos. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Though many think it's the other way around, including much of the dev/pt team.

    But Del's right. There is no new news besides that there is no new news. There, I've updated you completely. Yay.
  • BigBullBigBull Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15123Members
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Delarosa+Dec 26 2003, 08:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delarosa @ Dec 26 2003, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there is nothing to keep the general public "up" on...

    playtesting has reached a halt... with the next patch, there will be more news.

    classic NS has been deemed un-playable with a hole in the resource system

    Combat has reached a "play cheap... or lose" point... with no balance or counter to onos or Jetpacks...


    so until the next patch, there is nothing we can really say... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This thread is about the NS team telling us these things from them, not from speculation.

    Don't Start flaming this guy for the wrong reasons , like i have already seen. This isnt a WHEN IS GONNA BE RLEEASE OMG ITS why not update us, and inform us?
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--.PowerslavE.+Dec 26 2003, 10:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (.PowerslavE. @ Dec 26 2003, 10:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Dec 26 2003, 06:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Dec 26 2003, 06:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Delarosa+Dec 26 2003, 08:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delarosa @ Dec 26 2003, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there is nothing to keep the general public "up" on...

    playtesting has reached a halt... with the next patch, there will be more news.

    classic NS has been deemed un-playable with a hole in the resource system

    Combat has reached a "play cheap... or lose" point... with no balance or counter to onos or Jetpacks...


    so until the next patch, there is nothing we can really say... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Errr.. what?

    The counter to jetpacks are onos. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Though many think it's the other way around, including much of the dev/pt team.

    But Del's right. There is no new news besides that there is no new news. There, I've updated you completely. Yay. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dude we are talking about combat, that's how I understood it.


    In normal NS JP's rape onos.
  • PowerslavEPowerslavE Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21962Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Dec 26 2003, 07:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Dec 26 2003, 07:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--.PowerslavE.+Dec 26 2003, 10:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (.PowerslavE. @ Dec 26 2003, 10:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Dec 26 2003, 06:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Dec 26 2003, 06:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Delarosa+Dec 26 2003, 08:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delarosa @ Dec 26 2003, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there is nothing to keep the general public "up" on...

    playtesting has reached a halt... with the next patch, there will be more news.

    classic NS has been deemed un-playable with a hole in the resource system

    Combat has reached a "play cheap... or lose" point... with no balance or counter to onos or Jetpacks...


    so until the next patch, there is nothing we can really say... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Errr.. what?

    The counter to jetpacks are onos. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Though many think it's the other way around, including much of the dev/pt team.

    But Del's right. There is no new news besides that there is no new news. There, I've updated you completely. Yay. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dude we are talking about combat, that's how I understood it.


    In normal NS JP's rape onos. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Shrug. I've always heard JPs were meant to be the Oni counter but no, never actually heard that was the case in combat. Still, if that's the case, an Onos has no counter so...
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Maverick102+Dec 26 2003, 09:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maverick102 @ Dec 26 2003, 09:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->hard for a slow moving ground bond life form to kill a fast moving air bond life form<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When its head can lash out at the speed of a scorpion's sting and grab that sucker from miles away, <b><i>EVERYTHING</i></b> changes. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    Everything that the vet's, playtesters, and consties know is public information, so whenever we hear something you hear something. We'd give you news but there really isn't anything to say. Right now playtesting is pretty much frozen because of a res bug which gives the aliens exponential res (onos in 30 seconds) and we have been waiting for the next patch for about 2 weeks. Fun stuff ehh?
  • explodingheadboyexplodingheadboy Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15636Members, Constellation
    Sorry if anyone misunderstood me. In my original topic post, I did my best to acknowledge that the holidays are upon us, and we shouldn't expect a lot from the dev team.

    My main point was that the ns.org and rr.org sites aren't updated as frequently as they could be. Sometimes no news can be good news, but other times, more news is better news.

    A lot of us just feel like we're in the dark. The playtesters arent, and may take certain common knowledge things for granted, but the rest of us don't have much of a clue how things are really going. All we see is an occasional changelog, and fansite links.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    The reason nothing is being updated, holiday season aside, is because there is nothing new to say. Yes, I have just repeated what 75% of the people in this thread said, but that is only because the point didnt get across.

    WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, YOU WILL BE TOLD ABOUT IT.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Z.X. Bogglesteinsky+Dec 27 2003, 12:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Z.X. Bogglesteinsky @ Dec 27 2003, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, YOU WILL BE TOLD ABOUT IT. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ^^
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    edited December 2003
    "NS 3.0 Due to be released this holiday season!"

    *holiday season comes*

    "Hey, how come the new NS hasn't been released yet? When will it be?"

    "It'll be done when it's done"

    "but why?"

    "OMG SUYF N00B STOP ASKING TEH QUESTION"

    "but-"

    "TEH GAEM IS MAED BY FLARYA FOR FREE ADN YUO PALY IT FRO FREE OS STOP BEGING FRO 3.0 OR DNOATE"

    "...buh? I just wanted to know why it isn't released yet"

    "OMG *flame* ADMIN/MOD LOCK THIS THRAED!"

    This seems to be the cycle of how these threads go. All it takes is a single person to say that the game in its current state is unplayable...Hell, all Flayra needs to do is put something on the front page like "Due to recent bugs in the latest build such as <stuff>, the release has been delayed for a while until we can fix it". Giving people information like that is always helpful.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    ....

    I didn't see any flaming in this thread. Maybe if you toughened up a bit you could actually read facts without thinking everyone is out to get you.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Regardless of which, this thread has served its purpose. The explanation of why there have been no recent 'development updates' was given. And I'm not sure exactly who keeps up the front page, with MonsE on retirement or extended vacation or convalescence, and Comprox taking a breather as well.

    You'll likely be updated. For to-the-moment updates, Constellation is there... though usually I advocate the donation over the current benefit-set.
    <span style='color:red'>*LOCKED.*</span>
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