Public Play
SnoopBob
Join Date: 2003-07-21 Member: 18331Members
<div class="IPBDescription">An Idea</div> Basically public play has become absymal: teamwork is none existent, idiot comms deciede a spam of 10 comm chairs is a good strategy to win... the list goes on.
The basic idea is that i get a server of decent size, and a website to follow, the server would only be accessable by signing up on the website to play, the server would purely promote good teamwork, tactical play and general good sportsmanship with harsh punishment for people who break the rules.
This would in essence (hopefully) create a gaming enviroment that would be clean, friendly and support tactical play.
This would also allow a place for "non-claners" to come and experiance a higher level of game play.
I would like the opinion of the ns community as to whether this would be worth it?
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The basic idea is that i get a server of decent size, and a website to follow, the server would only be accessable by signing up on the website to play, the server would purely promote good teamwork, tactical play and general good sportsmanship with harsh punishment for people who break the rules.
This would in essence (hopefully) create a gaming enviroment that would be clean, friendly and support tactical play.
This would also allow a place for "non-claners" to come and experiance a higher level of game play.
I would like the opinion of the ns community as to whether this would be worth it?
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I personally think spamming commchairs is worth a perm ban.
and its hard to keep track of alot of admins
but I still would like to see a good server like this
This would in essence (hopefully) create a gaming enviroment that would be clean, friendly and support <b>tactical</b> play. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sort of what the <a href='http://www.tacticalgamer.com/' target='_blank'>Tactical Gamer</a> NS Server was supposed to be, but actually working? (Ok so I went there once and got a bad impression...) Very interesting. If this gets started I will be sure to sign up.
WTH How come everyone is like "Go to LunixMonster!!@$#%!! It's frigging awesome!" And then <b><i>I</i></b> go there and it's like the same 4 people there, sitting in the ready room trying to play TIC-TAC-TOE with their flashlights... and failing... ever so horribly. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
Wierd.
It's not always full, but when it is it's been really good to me. *shrugs* hope you find a server you like.
edit: Bean's pretty good too, hard to get in sometimes though.
WTH How come everyone is like "Go to LunixMonster!!@$#%!! It's frigging awesome!" And then <b><i>I</i></b> go there and it's like the same 4 people there, sitting in the ready room trying to play TIC-TAC-TOE with their flashlights... and failing... ever so horribly. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I had similar "not-so-great" experiences the few times I've gone there. One time some guy wanted to get me banned for not dropping any DCs because I was the only gorge, even though I'd just dropped a hive and 2 movements prior. (MCs were the first chamber, which was chosen before I even joined. DCs were second...just in case someone pipes up with me dropping the wrong chamber)
Yet there were 3 fades... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'll just stick to freaks unleashed and bean-net.
This would in essence (hopefully) create a gaming enviroment that would be clean, friendly and support <b>tactical</b> play. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sort of what the <a href='http://www.tacticalgamer.com/' target='_blank'>Tactical Gamer</a> NS Server was supposed to be, but actually working? (Ok so I went there once and got a bad impression...) Very interesting. If this gets started I will be sure to sign up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
wow used to play on that server back in 1.04, i've bin looking for that
WTH How come everyone is like "Go to LunixMonster!!@$#%!! It's frigging awesome!" And then <b><i>I</i></b> go there and it's like the same 4 people there, sitting in the ready room trying to play TIC-TAC-TOE with their flashlights... and failing... ever so horribly. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I had similar "not-so-great" experiences the few times I've gone there. One time some guy wanted to get me banned for not dropping any DCs because I was the only gorge, even though I'd just dropped a hive and 2 movements prior. (MCs were the first chamber, which was chosen before I even joined. DCs were second...just in case someone pipes up with me dropping the wrong chamber)
Yet there were 3 fades... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'll just stick to freaks unleashed and bean-net. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That beats the h3ll out of TIC-TAC-TOE my friend. Though I don't envy your being banned however. Still, you actually played NS in there.
BTW I forgot... They had a spray that was a tic-tac-toe board. But they all had it, so they didn't have X's or O's, so they shined their flashlights at specific areas to mark where they wanted their mark. And of course, they kept forgeting who claimed what areas. Thus the failing at playing tic tac toe.
It's 6v6 "clan play", except the teams are made up of random people. So pretty much, you join the channel, sign up to play, and then join a server. Once you get in, you choose captains and pick teams, and then play a CAL-style 6v6 match (one alien and one marine round)
It's a *great* way to get experience, and since they're only pickup games (PUG), you'll get both a lot better competition without the seriousness of a real match.
In the matches, we even usually have 2-3 spectators who both watch and standby to substitute for anyone who gets disconnected or dropped out of the match.
So just swing on by, #nspug. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> good times for all
-hawthorne
It's a *great* way to get experience, and since they're only pickup games (PUG), you'll get both a lot better competition without the seriousness of a real match.
So just swing on by, #nspug. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> good times for all
-hawthorne<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He is right about it being a friendly atmosphere but if you don't want to embarrass yourself due to lack of skill (I personally am an example) then be careful when you go in there. You get a lot of experience but you lose the side of PUB play where it is ok to make mistakes. <i>At least that was my impression.</i> When I played, I ended up feeling moderately guilty for my few usual bumbling errors, and I dislike that inherently.
But don't let that stop you PUB players out there, there are a lot of PUB converts, and it has got good reviews from a lot of people
WTH How come everyone is like "Go to LunixMonster!!@$#%!! It's frigging awesome!" And then <b><i>I</i></b> go there and it's like the same 4 people there, sitting in the ready room trying to play TIC-TAC-TOE with their flashlights... and failing... ever so horribly. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I had similar "not-so-great" experiences the few times I've gone there. One time some guy wanted to get me banned for not dropping any DCs because I was the only gorge, even though I'd just dropped a hive and 2 movements prior. (MCs were the first chamber, which was chosen before I even joined. DCs were second...just in case someone pipes up with me dropping the wrong chamber)
Yet there were 3 fades... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'll just stick to freaks unleashed and bean-net. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That beats the h3ll out of TIC-TAC-TOE my friend. Though I don't envy your being banned however. Still, you actually played NS in there.
BTW I forgot... They had a spray that was a tic-tac-toe board. But they all had it, so they didn't have X's or O's, so they shined their flashlights at specific areas to mark where they wanted their mark. And of course, they kept forgeting who claimed what areas. Thus the failing at playing tic tac toe. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't -think- I was banned. I shortly left after that experience, haven't tried since. If I was, meh. No big loss on my part.
I've had alot good games on finnish Auria Pelikaista -pubs, even though there are no admins present. Ever. You could say that the release of 2.0 screwed things up. The worst was that the mp_limitteams or something like that was by default set to 2. Most of the good players got irritated because of the uneven teams ans stopped playing there. Mostly only the newbies/idiots stayed. The good players that form 30% of the players are not enough to keep the game going and good.
For example the KB server rocks! Any idiots, spammers ect are kicked or banned.
Most of the time there also is a admin playing <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
www.naturalkb.cjb.net
Also didnt this thread kinda derail somewhere along the line?
oops! Forgot to add i havent tried PUG's because i feel i don't have the skill that they may be looking for hence the afore-mentioned server would hopefully provide game play at that higher level of gaming usually reserved for PUG's and clan matchs to thoose public players who would (with the current state of public ns) ever experiance such a thing.
but again, its okay to make mistakes, you usually have 5 other guys to cover up for ya <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->
-hawthorne
(just watch out for friendly fire!)
even if you got a 2nd gorg at less you had one
I signed up for this, but I apparently the admin that runs it is AWOL. So...its kinda dead right now. Thats too bad, because it looks really cool. I like the idea of battles actually having any point after the fact. Anyone know of any other setups like this?
Nothing's perfect, and if you try hard enough, you'll find games on our server that aren't up to par. If you ask around enough, you'll find someone who thinks we're a bunch of morons who take the game too seriously. But if you play regularly on our server, and you truly appreciate solid planning and team-oriented play, you'll quickly learn what a rarity our server is. If your first visit doesn't leave a good impression, try coming back another night, perhaps when more regulars are playing. The players make the server, and TG's server is just another pub if the regulars aren't playing. Play there enough, and you'll learn who the regulars are. The server is often full in the evenings.
It's right there in the MOTD:
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To some people we're just another server. To some people we're the only server. To some people, we're somewhere in between. All I'm offering is an invitation for you to decide where you fit.
Be well. Happy New Year. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Wyzcrak
btw, all skill levels are welcome in pugs, if you're new, try gorging until you get the hang of scrims.
p.s. coldnite: server bashing == bad + o/t == closed, let's prevent that <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->.
maybe it already exists or has been tried with lackluster results.. that's no reason not to have another or to try again, with "new management".
I would be interested in this server. but the signup process must strike a very specific balance between accessibility and exclusiveness. in order to keep a constant flow of "fresh blood" but also to keep the "griefers" at bay. =P
The server would be at first be public to get a player base and generally describe the basic ideals of the server, it would then after a sufficent player base migrate into a permanent "private" server requiring reserved slot gained through signing up on the website ( for free - although a trial period would be nessecary to stop multiple steams ids per person etc). Trusted players would have basic admin powers to generally manage the server when a higher admin is not online. Certain "events" would allow public players to experiance the server without sign up eg tuesday night public play... etc etc