Chi Demo

MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
edited December 2003 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">for real! honest</div> the other week an old friend of mine was showing me this technique he learnt to focus 'chi' (energy/ whatever) and blow over paper with it.
Ive checked his method (holding hand in front of his face) and he doesnt blow it.

its just pretty mad/ impessive.

dunno if this link works, hope it does, Im using uploadit.org to host this...

<a href='http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/281203-Chi%20Demonstration.avi' target='_blank'>Chi Demonstration</a>

i think right click, saveas is the best way to get at it...

Comments

  • XiileXiile Join Date: 2003-02-22 Member: 13818Members
    WTHbbq?
    Bigger paper required okplzthnx2u <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    Chi... I dunno, I practice psionics. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> I think it's psi. Check <a href='http://www.psipog.net' target='_blank'>this</a> link out.

    [EDIT] Also, was that video sped up? Because if it isn't, it looks fake.
  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    Video cannot prove anything. Photos don't even come close. Even if it's true, this isn't impressive.

    Applying Occum's Razor to this would give: it's sleight of hand.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    Chi is the Japanese/Chinese word for "energy" or "spirit" or something IIRC
  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
    Either he's fake, or a master of the most useless skill ever. I practise Eastern Korea reestyle, Juko Kai and am beginning to learn the technique "Iron Shirt". I hate that training, in a nutshell they take suff and hit you in the gut with it until it dosent hurt anymore.
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    chi is your inner strength... sumtimes seen as energy (it's potential energy). that vid doesnt show chi, it shows a man blow a piece of paper... any1 can do that. every1 has chi, it's just a problem of channeling it. meditating for 3 hours a day can do it... but u gotta do it right. practicing a martial art is a definate, it helps bring out the maximum ammount of potential just by using a correct body movement.
  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    edited December 2003
    .. i do feel sorry for those of you that believe it but meh. It's not my waste of time.

    <a href='http://www.psipog.net/media/ni-telekinesis-000.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.psipog.net/media/ni-telekinesis-000.jpg</a> << omg what a haxor! no magnets at all!@#$!

    It's for REAL!
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    yeah true, its hardly proof of anything.
    I guess the eternal sceptic could always doubt it.

    [it wasnt sped up, his digital camera just sucks].

    Apparently higher level practisioners can ignite the paper (ive not seen this one), still, I cant imagine what kind of crazy stuff you must have seen to make moving objects with energy alone <i> not </i> impressive <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->.

    its not exactly shaolin monk level or anything, but its a damn fine party trick.
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    edited December 2003
    I thought it was a demo of a geek getting a Chi-Omega... Man, did I waste my time here.

    GFU? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    I'm beginning to side with both the practical and the theoretical physics Major friends I have here, and say most things that break/deny/abuse/molest the current laws of physics of any form, to be improbable. The things these guys learn is incredible, and they can't do anything fancy with it, besides destroy the world, fly to mars, and bend time ( theoretically <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ).

    [edit] their first guess to the answer is the fact that your HAND (omg hax!) can move air fast enough to move paper, without even touching it! Incredible! After about 1 (a whopping one) minute, we were able to repeat this experiment using just paper and our hands. We would wave our hands quickly, and the paper would move. Increasing the surface area (therefore catching more wind), by setting the paper up vertically, had the best results. I think many old-school mariners used to use this thing called a sailboat. They used it to travel all over the place, since wind is a great source of energy. I even hear we use it to make electricity in some places, although it's not that efficient yet.[/edit]
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Dec 28 2003, 04:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Dec 28 2003, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Chi... I dunno, I practice psionics. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> I think it's psi. Check <a href='http://www.psipog.net' target='_blank'>this</a> link out.

    [EDIT] Also, was that video sped up? Because if it isn't, it looks fake. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol i did that stuff in that vid for fun . The exact same thing lol

    took a thumb tack, carved out a tiny pit in it, took an old hard drive with the really super strong magnets and tool that out.t and put a tiny piece in there then, i put the thumb tack down on table and paper on top. Then u take the other magnet and hold it under the table, Hard drive magnets are so powerful u can to put it against a 1/2 inch thick table with magnet not touching the bottom of the table and it will work.. The paper isnt moveing the tack is. but U cant tell unelss u really look close,

    Same with pen and watch. i did that in the middle of one of my classes just to freak people out lol

    Yea if anyone ever has the opertunity to get ahold of an old PC hard drive take it apart and get screw driver to pry off the tiny magnets in it. It takes a little work b/c u have to pry them out of the casing. But its worth it.
    Just be careful though, they are so powerful if you put them on a table top like an inch apart they will fly together so fast it will snap the skin off your fingers if u get pinched the wrong way.

    But yea u can stick one magnent on your fore arm and the other on the opposet side of your arm and they will stay.


    Very fun try it
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--enf0rcer+Dec 28 2003, 05:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (enf0rcer @ Dec 28 2003, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> .. i do feel sorry for those of you that believe it but meh.  It's not my waste of time.

    <a href='http://www.psipog.net/media/ni-telekinesis-000.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.psipog.net/media/ni-telekinesis-000.jpg</a>    << omg what a haxor! no magnets at all!@#$!

    It's for REAL! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Doubt all you want. True psionists don't bother trying to prove it. Also, keep in mind that psionics isn't all telekinesis or "mind reading". Psionics is the practice of the manipulation of energy. There are many ways to manipulate energy. If you don't believe in it, that's your own belief. I don't care if you believe in psi or not.

    Also yes, Davis, it is possible to do it that way. It's also possible to do it psionically. (Focus psi energy on pushing the paper.)
  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    <b><span style='font-size:30pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:white'>h4x!</span></span></b>

    Could just be the wind...
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Dec 28 2003, 10:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Dec 28 2003, 10:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't care if you believe in psi or not. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And we don't care if you believe in it.

    Great, pointless skill that'll never be used. GG
  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    Untill you can blow up stuff, fly or shoots chi holes through people, it dosent matter =\
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Look at his lips, hes blowing it.
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    edited December 2003
    I would tend to second Liku, although I think a little more tolerance for irrational beliefs should be called for. Here's why.
    There are those who believe in pure science, those who believe in a mix (most religious people must), and those who believe purely in religion (dinosaurs and men lived together, <a href='http://www.christiananswers.net/dinosaurs/j-where1.html' target='_blank'>really!</a>).

    In my opinion, as long as you don't try to force your opinion down my throat I'll not object to your views. You try to say you're correct, I might try to debate it with you. You try to convert anyone who thinks differently, I might get mad. I guess I was a little argumentative this morning, but I still stand by what i said. Even to the uninitiated, through vigorous flapping, have acheived what he could do with one wrist flick/flap. Two of us could repeat that much. It's kind of disinteresting, though.
    The only reason why I posted was to tell people that you too can do this "amazing trick," and that you don't necessarily need... "chi," To do it.

    [edit] Spelling, and to say I don't really feel like arguing with those who believe that the laws of science can be manipulated. It has also been proven that most of the laws are false in the real world, and they can't explain why such irregularities occur, but I'm not a physicist, and I'm not out to make some discovery in the field of quantum mechanics (a quite fun subject, if you can get past the first couple classes.) You believe in psi? Fine, that's great. Somebody here once argued he was an elf, a sprite, or gnome or something like that, when he was clearly just a misguided teen looking for answers, and taking solace in what I consider fantasy. But at least he was happy. You're happy with Psi? Great, glad it helps you pass your time and continue on existing. [/edit]
  • BeastBeast Armonkyi Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15731Members, Constellation
    I think it's been proven that at the very least, humans can manipulate electromagnetic fields to some degree, dunno if this has any use in this argument but hey.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Speed 2 Dave+Dec 29 2003, 03:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Speed 2 Dave @ Dec 29 2003, 03:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would tend to second Liku, although I think a little more tolerance for irrational beliefs should be called for. Here's why.
    There are those who believe in pure science, those who believe in a mix (most religious people must), and those who belive purely in religion (dinosaurs and men lived together, <a href='http://www.christiananswers.net/dinosaurs/j-where1.html' target='_blank'>really!</a>).

    In my opinion, as long as you don't try to force your opinion down my throat I'll not object to your views. You try to say you're correct, I might try to debate it with you. You try to convert anyone who thinks differently, I might get mad. I guess I was a little argumentative this morning, but I still stand by what i said. Even to the uninitiated, through vigorous flapping, have acheived what he could do with one wrist flick/flap. Two of us could repeat that much. It's kind of disinteresting, though.
    The only reason why I posted was to tell people that you too can do this "amazing trick," and that you don't necessarily need... "chi," To do it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Psi isn't a religion, and I don't see how it's an irrational belief. Psi is using energy to manipulate other energy. Isn't that science? In my belief, psi energy is atoms and molecules. You can learn to manipulate other atoms and molecules. It's quite simple, really. This allows you to do stuff such as send messages, concentrate the energy (Called a "psi ball". They're very easy, and quite fun. Mine feel like electricity. Others are felt by warmth or cold, or by vibration. Some are visible, but this is quite difficult to do. ), manipulate feelings, read thoughts, move objects and such.

    It's not easy, by any means. Even the most basic psiball can sometimes take weeks, depending on the person. Telekinesis takes months to years. (To refer to someone in another thread who said "If psi is real, make my lawnmower mow my lawn." That's EXTREMELY hard to do and it would probably take half of your life just to work up the prowess needed to pull the ripcord.)

    If you don't believe in psi, that's fine by me and usually by any real psionist. We know what we think is real, and you can think otherwise if you want to. It's not our place to force you to believe us.
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Dec 28 2003, 01:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Dec 28 2003, 01:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Chi... I dunno, I practice psionics. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> I think it's psi. Check <a href='http://www.psipog.net' target='_blank'>this</a> link out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wow, the author of the book quoted on the website has the exact same name as me (but mine is spelled Munro, not Monroe).
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--CommunistWithAGun+Dec 29 2003, 08:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Dec 29 2003, 08:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Look at his lips, hes blowing it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The link doesn't work for me, but i'm assuming that he's moving a piece of paper, or turning a page in a book or something without touching it, while doing a sweeping thing with his arms.

    Someone not long ago did this, and had thousands of people believing he could manipulate things with his mind. After a few months, he came out and said it was all a sham and that he'd just figured out the right way to angle his head and mouth so he could blow the paper along. Looks good, but it can't be done with a blocked mouth. I'd assume the same thing applies here.
  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    omg......... please, just the air caused by his hand moving that fast would knock down that tiny piece of paper......... have him do it with his hand not moving...........
  • JefeJefe Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15734Members, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--enf0rcer+Dec 28 2003, 04:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (enf0rcer @ Dec 28 2003, 04:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> .. i do feel sorry for those of you that believe it but meh.  It's not my waste of time.

    <a href='http://www.psipog.net/media/ni-telekinesis-000.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.psipog.net/media/ni-telekinesis-000.jpg</a>    << omg what a haxor! no magnets at all!@#$!

    It's for REAL! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Unless you were being sarcastic (I'm not sure if you were or not, bleh) that's the biggest fake this side of the fake river.

    Edit: Boy, that was lame <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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