Depression Sucks.

ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet! Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
<div class="IPBDescription">verily.</div> my shrink's diagnosed me with minor-ish depression.

i used to think i was a happy guy, until all this diagnosis business.. and now i'm depressed by the fact that i'm chemically depressed.

so now i'm on meds. celexa. i stalled and didn't take it for the first 5 days, because.. well i just don't like the thought of taking meds for it. i thought therapy and everything could do it, but apparently it can't. so i took it last night, after reading the container labeled: "May cause drowsiness", etc. minor side-effects. no mention of nausea.

so i woke up at like 5am with this weird feeling i didn't understand. i don't really understand anything when i wake up. i went to the bathroom, thinking i might have to expel me bladder. i did so, but the feeling didn't go away. and then i started heaving, and everything started hurting.. i didn't throw up, i kept it swallowed down... but the heaves hurt so bad i couldn't understand it. it never does that.

i hate meds. and i hate depression.
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  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    I'm depressed a lot, but never went to a counselor... Or use meds for depression either... As you said, I just don't like that idea. People said that they got addicted to it and had to eat those just to be normal, all the time... Not really encouraging... :/
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    Sure im pretty sure any disorder is horrible to live with, but learn to live with it, dont fight it to surpass it try to learn its there and you cant really do anything about it, itll make things better actually
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    Nothing beats just getting everything off your chest with good friends. Nothing at all.

    I used to have depression, undiagnosed (I hate doctors) nothing helped like having a close friend to talk to and a shoulder to cry on. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    edited December 2003
    Man... I'm on anti-depressive as welll, but while mine is majorish it's certainly not minorish, and yes, I can't emphasize on how hardcore balls it sucks <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->'
    Also, my medication has suicide attempt, anorexi and panic attack as minor side effect <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited December 2003
    grim irony, isn't it.. how i'm depressed by the fact that i'm depressed? the only reason i'm cooperating with the doctor is that my work ethic and concentration are being killed by the disorder. it's kinda like.. a tied-in ADD. it's totally ruining me, and no matter how happy or sad i am, it's more important to get a decent GPA, to get that out of the way. i don't want to have to deal with the really bad community college in my area..

    but yeah. that's why i'm going along with it. and taking the meds. i also noticed that i acquired some shakes. isn't that great. it didn't say anything about getting the shakes or tremendous nausea on the frickin label.. maybe i should call my doctor.

    edit: all my real friends are so far away. the ones that live close are sorta douchey..

    be my friend, esuna? ~,~
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Dec 30 2003, 04:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Dec 30 2003, 04:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sure im pretty sure any disorder is horrible to live with, but learn to live with it, dont fight it to surpass it try to learn its there and you cant really do anything about it, itll make things better actually <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>-_-</span>
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    Blowhard disclaimer: I'm working in a psychatric clinic in the frame of my social service right now. I'm dealing with medium and severe depressive people on a daily basis.

    Depressions can be some of the meanest problems a person can suffer from. Unfortunately, depressives do also have a rather bad reputation amongst therapists. I won't try to blanket label a whole category of professions here, but amongst many therapists, psychatrists, and counselors, even those who've been working for long in the field, the opinion that depressives are simply attention seeking 'whiners' prevails. Thus, many resort to a quick attempt of a solution of the problem by medicating the patients when a medication would in fact not even be strictly necessary.

    I can of course not say whether you are in such a situation right now - for this, I lack both personal contact with you and the necessary expertises. It's also possible that your slight aversion to medis - which I can more than understand - made you psychosomize the issues you described.
    I'd suggest you wait until the next session and see how the medication works out. If it continues obstructing your daily life as severely as it seems to right now, tell your counselor. It's well possible that (s)he will try to discard those concerns - insist on discussing the issue and make clear that you feel a medicative therapy isn't necessary. See what happens.
    If the situation and your counselors treatment policy doesn't seem to change anyway, it might be a good idea to search help otherwhere.

    My best wishes and good luck getting out of it.
  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    there are many depression meds out there too, and some work better than others, it really can differ from person to person, so perhaps the one you are on is not for you. I was diagnosed with depression, but i hated meds so much I set myself to resolve it myself and came out pretty successful. Its hard to do, but I would definitely seek a non-drug solution as well. If this counselor is not really the person for that, then perhaps someone else.
  • ShzarShzar Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21098Members, Constellation
    You say you thought you were a happy guy before diagnosis... let me add onto what Nem was saying; depression is the most diagnosed mental disorder out there, and a lot of people sort of 'fake it,' (not pointing any fingers; if you feel depressed, you should get treatment!), and, also, what happens a lot is that a person feels bad for a couple days, goes to a doctor, gets misdiagnosed with depression, and tries real hard to fit the diagnosis. Whatever the case may be, make sure you spend time with good friends, have a good laugh a couple times in the day, and always go to therapy if you're on meds.

    Speaking of meds, let me add to the grief-list of side-effects. Dry mouth? This was really bad for me since I have trouble retaining water in the first place. I would barely be able to speak sometimes, since it felt like my tongue tripled in size. Lowered sex drive? Jeez, that hit my like a ton of bricks, it did <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    Oh well, could I ask those who have been depressed if they havent experienenced about something?
    My doctor havent really been able to dianose me, completely.
    My drugs has helped me alot about this sympthom, but I still want to know if its related to depression:
    I cant stand being outside when it's both dark and cold, it's like a dark forces that swallows me and feel literally soulless
    Sometimes especially at school I get paralized by a feeling, I can hardly remember how it feels because most of my feelings systems seems knocked out, but my face feels like carved in a stone and it direct all my thoughtwork on to the next moment. I can hardly talk.
    My chemical feelings (like anger, excitement, happiness etc.) are somewhat remote and feels kinda locked by a chain

    The drugs Im taking are luckily making it easier, but I'm still depressed and I still feel locked inside, but I'm an optimist <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    *disclaimer* i have no authority on the subject, but will offer my laymans view anyway.

    firstly, that sucks man. I wouldnt like to be on meds full time. as Nem said, if your adverse reactions continue speak to your counselor about decreasing or stopping your dosage.

    as for general depression, i'll usually offer depressed people unconstructive advice.. so for a change let me recommend exercise; there really is nothing like falling on the sofa exausted after a good load of exercise, its a nice contented feeling (i even hear its technically possible to become 'addicted' to it now). Plus you get to bulk up for any future fighting/ lady impressing you might embark upon.
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    Everyone has depression at least one time in their life or another. It can be easily defined as being sad, worthless, useless, and etc. I would be extremely surprised to see someone who has never felt any of those symptoms. I think their are several types of depression, well according to my simple definitions. Simple depression and Extreme depression, the later should be considered for actual medications and whatnot. Simple depression can probably be solved by the will of one, all that crackomoly bs you hear about people saying that depression can't be solved and is a brain disease shouldn't be considered 100 percent. I think anyone can overcome certain mental disorders by pure will and determination (not to sound arrogant).
    Anyways, as for myself, I have felt extremely and a little depressed at times here and there. It all depends, what is making you depressed? Its hard, yes.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    Meh, everything is depressing, my memoeries, bits I hear in radio and TV everyting <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
    In some situation, yes, will power (what's that anyway`?) can help but when you have a depression, determination is a city in russia
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited December 2003
    thanks guys. don't worry about me waxing depressive or anything.. i feel the same as i did before. i think it's more a subonscious low than "oh god i'm miserable". besides, i'm not into the habit of bullsh*tting anybody, especially myself. the doctor asks me a question, i tell it like it is. if he tells me to think something through, then i'll do so. don't worry about me in the insecurity and compensation department.

    just worry about me in the tremors and vomiting department >_>

    there are a few other meds like celexa.. prozac among them. after a week or so, i guess i'll call the doc to try those if said symptoms linger.

    edit: i'm in a better mood, tho. my syster got pokemon ruby for christmas, and i'm still enchanted by the novelty, though it's more like nostalgia. remember when you owned pokemon red or blue? and how awesome it was having your pokemon kick the shiite out of everyone elses pokemon?
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--kida+Dec 30 2003, 11:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kida @ Dec 30 2003, 11:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Everyone has depression at least one time in their life or another. It can be easily defined as being sad, worthless, useless, and etc. I would be extremely surprised to see someone who has never felt any of those symptoms. I think their are several types of depression, well according to my simple definitions. Simple depression and Extreme depression, the later should be considered for actual medications and whatnot. Simple depression can probably be solved by the will of one, all that crackomoly bs you hear about people saying that depression can't be solved and is a brain disease shouldn't be considered 100 percent. I think anyone can overcome certain mental disorders by pure will and determination (not to sound arrogant).
    Anyways, as for myself, I have felt extremely and a little depressed at times here and there. It all depends, what is making you depressed? Its hard, yes. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    naw, man... it's all chemical. you can go to therapy, and, if you "get happy", your chemicals may balance. but if you're just straight-up depressed (the disorder, mind you), you need meds to increase seratonin levels, or whatever.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    It's actually a lot more complex than that - our psyche influences our chemical metabolism influences our psyche and so on - even suicidally depressive patients are usually thrown into depressive episodes by incidents affecting their psyche (for example big financial problems, ending relations, or the death of a loved one), which then lets their chemical system break in, which in turn makes a quick recovery impossible.
    More severe depressions are simply treated with meds because this allows for a first 'balancing' of the patient to a point where non-chemical therapies can begin. At least, this is the theory as far as I understand it - as I already noted, in practice, many therapists simply see medication as cure-it-all.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zig+Dec 30 2003, 11:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Dec 30 2003, 11:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> my shrink's diagnosed me with minor-ish depression. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    mine said I needed an outlet for my aggression

    Anyway, I never did any medecine for depression, and sometimes I just feel depressed. Especially when you have to do something you don't want to do, especially when nothing is going the way you like.
    I don't think medecine would be any use because all it does is just fool you rather than really acting. Whenever you're going to stop you're going to feel horrible. My medicine is usually just trying to go out and forgeting about everything. Get a good hobby, preferably something that changes a whole lot from the usual. Vacation is perfect for this (go breathe some fresh air). Most of the time the problem isn't with you but your surroundings. You will HAVE to try to at least live with your co-workers/job (I'm speaking as if I've ever worked but no I'm still minor) or try to interest yourself in at least one subject in school/think that your teachers aren't that horrible or something along those lines or you're never going to enjoy doing anything with anybody and thus not wanting to do anything. Whatever you do, you have to enjoy at least something from it.

    But whatever it is, I'd try to stay away from anything artificial, they're always bad in the end. Rather than heal, prevent.
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->mine said I needed an outlet for my aggression<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You must have the same shrink as the marines in NS then <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    *Note: I'm not a professional. Take anything I say with a grain of salt. Bla bla bla. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->*
    Remember, it's only horrible if you think it's horrible. Try to continue on with your life as it was before you were diagnosed, completely ignoring the depression. If that doesn't work, then you probably DO need anti-depressants.

    Personally, I hate anti-depressions. I had clinical depression a few years ago, and what I did to get over it was change a few things in my life. I didn't care what, but I changed some things for the better. That helped me a LOT. I think I'm still depressed, but I don't really notice.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+Dec 30 2003, 07:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Dec 30 2003, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zig+Dec 30 2003, 11:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Dec 30 2003, 11:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> my shrink's diagnosed me with minor-ish depression. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    mine said I needed an outlet for my aggression

    Anyway, I never did any medecine for depression, and sometimes I just feel depressed. Especially when you have to do something you don't want to do, especially when nothing is going the way you like.
    I don't think medecine would be any use because all it does is just fool you rather than really acting. Whenever you're going to stop you're going to feel horrible. My medicine is usually just trying to go out and forgeting about everything. Get a good hobby, preferably something that changes a whole lot from the usual. Vacation is perfect for this (go breathe some fresh air). Most of the time the problem isn't with you but your surroundings. You will HAVE to try to at least live with your co-workers/job (I'm speaking as if I've ever worked but no I'm still minor) or try to interest yourself in at least one subject in school/think that your teachers aren't that horrible or something along those lines or you're never going to enjoy doing anything with anybody and thus not wanting to do anything. Whatever you do, you have to enjoy at least something from it.

    But whatever it is, I'd try to stay away from anything artificial, they're always bad in the end. Rather than heal, prevent. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I doubt you can do that when you are depressed, and I was on tenerife for vacation, it was one of the worst weeks in my life.
    Medicine can and will help your sympthoms, staying away from it is stupid even though it have nasty sympthoms
  • ParasiteParasite Join Date: 2002-04-13 Member: 431Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Epidemic+Dec 31 2003, 01:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Dec 31 2003, 01:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Medicine can and will help your sympthoms, staying away from it is stupid even though it have nasty sympthoms <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Im sorry but medicine is out of control right now...they are diagnosing problems that barely affect any aspect of a persons life or the lives of people around them and prescribing drugs for it...Besides, most non-severe chemical imbalances can be supplimented by proper diet and vitamins.

    Im weary of modern medicine...too high of a profit to convince people thier problems are worse than they are, coupled with a media system that capitalizes on fear and blows every problem out of proportion, I'd say American are extremely over medicated right now.
  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
    I'm **** off, constantly depressed and bitter. And I'm damn proud of it.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Epidemic+Dec 31 2003, 03:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Dec 31 2003, 03:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I doubt you can do that when you are depressed, and I was on tenerife for vacation, it was one of the worst weeks in my life.
    Medicine can and will help your sympthoms, staying away from it is stupid even though it have nasty sympthoms <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sure, it's not as easy as taking a pill, but it really would help. You definitely need to act before you're really in a bad mood, or you're not even going to want to bother. But it sure does help to figure out a way so you don't feel like ****. If you feel better, you're not feeling worse. Whatever makes you feel better is what you have to do. Not having annoying acquaintances always is a plus.

    I really don't think medecine would help. Then again, I'm not that depressive to a state I'm helpless. I'm sure the effects would be bad, not necessarily on health, but repercussions you'll have when you stop the treatment.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    No offence but the fact you said you felt fine <b>before</b> you were diagnosed with it sounds a bit odd... have you tried checking with another doctor? Sometimes getting a second opinion isn't a bad idea =P
  • BlueTorpeedoBlueTorpeedo Join Date: 2003-03-10 Member: 14359Members
    edited December 2003
    I didnt read 95% of what was said here, but I think I have some advice that I feel is important. I used to suffer from severe dipression, to the point where I was court ordered to visit a psyciatrist. I was also almost sent to an institution, probably more than once.

    Dont depend on Medicine. Its not a cure, only a tool to help you get better. If you depend on Medicine, you will never be happy, with or without it. The same goes for drugs, like Pot. I have met alot of of people with dipression that turned to weed or other drugs/alchohol. They still are not happy and most of them are addicts now.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zig+Dec 30 2003, 04:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Dec 30 2003, 04:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> my shrink's diagnosed me with minor-ish depression.

    i used to think i was a happy guy, until all this diagnosis business.. and now i'm depressed by the fact that i'm chemically depressed.

    so now i'm on meds. celexa. i stalled and didn't take it for the first 5 days, because.. well i just don't like the thought of taking meds for it. i thought therapy and everything could do it, but apparently it can't. so i took it last night, after reading the container labeled: "May cause drowsiness", etc. minor side-effects. no mention of nausea.

    so i woke up at like 5am with this weird feeling i didn't understand. i don't really understand anything when i wake up. i went to the bathroom, thinking i might have to expel me bladder. i did so, but the feeling didn't go away. and then i started heaving, and everything started hurting.. i didn't throw up, i kept it swallowed down... but the heaves hurt so bad i couldn't understand it. it never does that.

    i hate meds. and i hate depression. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I used to be on Paxil but it gave me a rash on my hoo-hoo. So I stopped taking them. Either I'm cured or gonna snap someday <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    I've got major depression plus Asperger's syndrome. Life is just great ain't it? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    One word of advice: don't try an anti-depressant called "Aropax" unless you have problems in bed. One side-effect of it which I disliked but my fiancee liked was that it made having an orgasm very difficult. On the plus side though you can last for hours and hours....
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Geminosity+Dec 31 2003, 03:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Dec 31 2003, 03:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No offence but the fact you said you felt fine <b>before</b> you were diagnosed with it sounds a bit odd... have you tried checking with another doctor? Sometimes getting a second opinion isn't a bad idea =P <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    if that was aimed at me, what i was trying to say was that i felt fine beforehand, and being TOLD i was depressed and hearing about all the diagnosis and process of healing and everything is the only consciously depressing thing in my life right now. subconsciously, i don't know. there are a lot of factors. my doctor's a good doctor, and i'm not saying anything's wrong. just that depression and medicine both suck. hard.
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