Half-life Admin Tools

t4nt4lum

I'm sure that most of the people that read and post in this forum either actively play, or have played (I fall in to this category) counter-strike. I am also sure that if you have played this most frustraiting game, that you will have noticed that some servers have a plugin called "Admin Mod". For those of you who haven't played, admin mod is a server plugin written for counter-strike that lets server administrators administrate their server. Now, many Natural-Selection servers using this too (or were, its been awhile since I have actually played the mod... infernal steam support!) but it doesn't properly support many of the features of Natural-Selection. This lack of support brings me to the question "Why has no one in the Natural-Selection community created an administrative tool like admin mod, and why hasn't Flayra made a tool that is built into Natural-Selection?". Now keep in mind that I am in no way criticizing Flayra in any way shape or form. Natural-Selection is the most innovative game that I have played in a very, very long time. But it seems that everyone is content using "Admin mod" for any mod, despite its inadequacies for the mods. Can anyone explain this to me?

ethTheMedic1

Adminmod is a universal mod for the server.

you can put many plugins in it that do many fun/useful things.

but AMX is better for plugins <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Someone needs to write a NS plugin that does something useful =/ .

t4nt4lum

Admin mod really isn't that universal though. It was obviously intended for Counter-Strike. AMX is better than Admin Mod, but the same point and be said about it. And why has no major mod been released with its own admin features?

typical_skeleton

how was AM obviously intended for CS?

I'm not saying it isn't... just curious as to how you arriived at that conclusion...

t4nt4lum

Now its been awhile, and I used to be an admin. I remember commands like admin_ct and the like... and it would switch the specified player to the counter-terrorist team. There were other commands like that.

Bad_HAL_9000

AMX by far is the best. Server admin/owner for 2 years and I would never even consider using adminmod again. the CPU usage is like 2x of AMX

UnderDOG

amx is great, and is now has commands custom made for ns, at least i dont think that amx_marine and amx_alien were commands for cs.

Schmeebis

I hate, hate, HATE when I connect to a server and have to download doh1.wav, doh2.wav, doh10.wav, haha.wav, random_action_movie_quote.wav, etc.

It is annoying when servers run plugins just because some n00b admin wants to prove he/she can install plugins. It is even worse that plugins that no doubt started as "first plugin coding" projects become so ubiquitous. I esepcially loathe the plugins that try to make games into Unreal Tournament.. "Mulit-kill!" "Mega-Kill!" sounds so stupid in NS or Day of Defeat..

Bleh.

devicenull

I have made AMX plugins for NS, amx_marine, amx_alien, amx_readyroom, amx_setres, noclip, and godmode
What more do you need?
If you don't tell me or one of the other people that make plugins what you want/need, you will never see it

You don't need to reinvent the wheel for each new mod, AMX has a lot of cs stats stuff, but thats all easily disabled

Grillkohle

And even if there is no admin_alien and admin_marine in admin mod, just do an admin_say "hey player x, go to marines", and if he does not go, just kick him. I guess that works, too.

krevety

does anyone know some list of complete Admin-Mod commands for NS <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->

VittoPB

<!--QuoteBegin--Dr. Schmeebis+Jan 2 2004, 10:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr. Schmeebis @ Jan 2 2004, 10:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hate, hate, HATE when I connect to a server and have to download doh1.wav, doh2.wav, doh10.wav, haha.wav, random_action_movie_quote.wav, etc.

It is annoying when servers run plugins just because some n00b admin wants to prove he/she can install plugins. It is even worse that plugins that no doubt started as "first plugin coding" projects become so ubiquitous. I esepcially loathe the plugins that try to make games into Unreal Tournament.. "Mulit-kill!" "Mega-Kill!" sounds so stupid in NS or Day of Defeat..

Bleh. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I beleive if you add cl_allowdownload "0"
to your config.cfg you wont have to download those stupid wav files...I could be wrong though

Align

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Callvote command[can be started by any player that hasn't been voted to shut up] can change gravity, map, kick a player, shut up a player, turn on/off secrets/cheats, and probably other stuff that I can't remember right now.

Unless you meant one where you get admin_slap and stupid stuff like that which is not needed in any way unless you intend to abuse admin powers.