Nda lifted? okay then coil....

f3rretf3rret Join Date: 2002-05-29 Member: 686Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Tell us what a babbler is!</div>Title says it all. I was going to post something about the "No Summer Release" thing, but someone beat me to it.

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  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    Well, coil is taking too long, so I'll answer what meager little bit I know.  The babbler is the Gorge's three-hive and most powerful weapon.  It releases an AI-controlled skulk with little brains and even less health.

    How often can you shoot one off?  Are they cosmetically different?  Can the babbler wall-climb, or does it just run around?  What if you fire a babbler off, and there are no marines around?  Does it wait in one place, or run around at random?  If it never gets damaged, does it disappear after a set amount of time?

    As always, making more questions than answers.

    -Ryan!


    "We have not inhereted the Earth from our ancestors, but have borrowed it from our children."
  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->-Babblers are Gorge last weapon, they spit up AI controlled Skulks, they do less damage than a real Skulk and have next to no hitpoints  and they do extra damage against buildings.
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    that was taken from the <a href="http://www.natural-selection.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=5705" target="_blank">Nda lifted! PTs reveal!</a> topic, which was way back on the second page of the general forum
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    *Bump*

    Just looking for answers, folks.  Just the answers.

    -Ryan!


    Looking at the NS news page, one can calculate the release of NS:  The coding seems to be the slowest going, as it has, perhaps, the least amount of progression between 8/1/02 and 9/17/02, with an increase of only 4%, 92% to 96%.  Thus, because we have another 4% to go, and it takes a month and a half to get 4% of the work done in coding, we still have another month an a half to go.  Gear up for a Halloween release.  I'm going as a skulk, how about you?
    -- Ryan!, on IRC, being his ever-humorous self, so don't take this too seriously
  • ChromeAngelChromeAngel Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 14Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I doubt this unplanned server move is going to help the release schedule any.  Coding is time consuming and poor ole Flayra's the only coder this mod's got.  4% per month sounds like good progress to me.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Somebody say "spill the beans?"  <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://207.44.144.68/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

    Just the facts:
    1) Babbler is the Gorge (level2)'s 3-hive weapon.
    2) A Babbler possesses the AI of your average snark, and behaves similarly.
    3) A Babbler looks *exactly* like a Skulk (level1).  The only difference is it will die in about 3 LMG bullets.
    4) Babblers currently bite for 20 damage, and eventually explode for 40.  Numbers are always Subject to Change.
    5) Babblers do half damage to marines.
    6) 3-4 Babblers will kill an immobilized (due to webbing or paralysis) marine.
    7) An un-upgraded Gorge can "fire" about 4 Babblers - one per second or so - before its energy gauge is depleted.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    Niiiiice.

    Do they make cute little "crek" and "Eeet" sounds when they jump around? Do they go "Ek Ek" before they time out and pop?

    So many questions, so little time!

    --Scythe--
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    Ooooooh, so the little things that look like deadly things may ne really be deadly things...

    But the things that look unthreatening may be really threatening...

    Aww crap <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://207.44.144.68/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->

    Sounds fun though!
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Coil forgot one cool thing about babblers:

    Since they are so weak and can be outrun, Marines often tend to dodge them rather than wasting ammo on 5-6 babblers coming there way. So what you do is play as a skulk, then hang around with babbler-launching gorges. A babbler is a 3-hive weapon, so you wait for for your gorge friend to launch a bunch of them at a group of Marines, then you mix yourself into the swarm herd of babblers - you look just like them remember. The Marines dodge the babblers and start going after the gorge to stop the attack...

    Then you xenocide, blowing up three Marines at once.

    <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://207.44.144.68/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Sep. 25 2002,10:09--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Sep. 25 2002,10:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Coil forgot one cool thing about babblers:

    Since they are so weak and can be outrun, Marines often tend to dodge them rather than wasting ammo on 5-6 babblers coming there way. So what you do is play as a skulk, then hang around with babbler-launching gorges. A babbler is a 3-hive weapon, so you wait for for your gorge friend to launch a bunch of them at a group of Marines, then you mix yourself into the swarm herd of babblers - you look just like them remember. The Marines dodge the babblers and start going after the gorge to stop the attack...

    Then you xenocide, blowing up three Marines at once.

    <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://207.44.144.68/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "They're coming outta the walls. They're coming outta the ####### walls!" Theres to many of the(Xenocide Boom)
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    ROFL!!!

    but i think it was coil or fam said in irc that a xenocide only does 50% of a marines hp..so how would it kill 3 :o
  • f3rretf3rret Join Date: 2002-05-29 Member: 686Members
    Hey, thanks for the replies.

    Damn, I've been away so long, and these new names have me all confused...
  • BattousaixBattousaix Join Date: 2002-06-25 Member: 822Members
    lol, theres even a video with babblers and the marine just dodge them <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://207.44.144.68/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
    It would be cool to see a video that shows bablers and a little skulk that xenocides <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://207.44.144.68/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
    Sheet, that gorge is sendin a lot of babblers, lets kill him, umm wtf, that babbler isnt jumping like a freak.... wait a min..... OMGG NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO *Light flashes the room* *yaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh* *BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM SPLASSHHHHHHHHHHHH*
    *pieces of skulk and marines falls to teh ground*
    *gorge walks away silently*
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    True, Xenocide does only half damage to marines (versus full damage to buildings) - compare it to "siege" type weapons in Warcraft3 (siege turrets, Babblers, and Grenades also work this way).  So a Xenocide probably won't kill a fully healthy marine.  However, if you've got a squad of marines trapped in base, being peppered with spikes and spore clouds... you're going to be pretty effective.  (:
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--coil+Sep. 25 2002,13:51--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (coil @ Sep. 25 2002,13:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->True, Xenocide does only half damage to marines (versus full damage to buildings) - compare it to "siege" type weapons in Warcraft3 (siege turrets, Babblers, and Grenades also work this way).  So a Xenocide probably won't kill a fully healthy marine.  However, if you've got a squad of marines trapped in base, being peppered with spikes and spore clouds... you're going to be pretty effective.  (:<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    /me drools


    noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    my keyboard!
    u #######!
  • TraneTrane Join Date: 2002-02-01 Member: 148Members
    does xenocide count as a death??
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    There are no deaths.  As a skulk, you live and die for the Hive Mind.

    Always remember, it's always For the Mind.

    -Ryan!


    It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others.
    -- John Andrew Holmes
  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Yes, it's technically a suicide, but if you take out 3-4 marines with you, then it's all good.
  • MooMoo_the_SnowCowMooMoo_the_SnowCow Join Date: 2002-08-03 Member: 1057Members
    How good is the xenocide blast radius?
  • BattousaixBattousaix Join Date: 2002-06-25 Member: 822Members
    That´s right H´Bnayr, long life to the mind.....
    [Zergvoice]LIVEEEEEEEEEEE FORRRRRRRR THEEEEEEE SWAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMMM[Zergovoice/]
    <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
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