Steve Irwin
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<div class="IPBDescription">And Recent Events</div> Well, I highly doubt anyone does not know about Steven Irwins recent antics due to the concurrent media circus.
Whats your opinion? Is he a fool?
In my opinion, he isnt a fool. He handles crocodiles for a living, he was meters away from the croc and was holding the baby as far as he could from it. Sure he did muck around a little bit in there, but he knew what he was doing.
If he weighed the risks and felt that he could safely bring his month old son into a croc enclosure, then that was his decision.
Although many media personnel have compared it to the MJ affair, there are vital differences.
If the croc moved to snap the baby, Irwin could have pulled the baby away. If MJ had let his grip slip, there would have been no way to stop his kid from falling.
So, although Irwin was a little foolish to do that, the child was in no danger because he was in the hands of an expert. The media are blowing out of all proportion. Although on the popular angle the media portrays the child very near the croc, an angle released by irwin shows that the child was at least 2 meters from the croc, giving irwin sufficient time to react to any hostile movement.
So, yeah, Irwin, though a fool, was putting his child in no life threatening situation, though he may have exposed him to unnecessary risk he was in the hands of an expert whom weighed to risks and found them to be acceptable.
And remember guys, Irwin is a father. He loves his children as much as any other parent. He would never have taken his month old son out there if he felt that the risk was too high.
But what are your opinions?
Whats your opinion? Is he a fool?
In my opinion, he isnt a fool. He handles crocodiles for a living, he was meters away from the croc and was holding the baby as far as he could from it. Sure he did muck around a little bit in there, but he knew what he was doing.
If he weighed the risks and felt that he could safely bring his month old son into a croc enclosure, then that was his decision.
Although many media personnel have compared it to the MJ affair, there are vital differences.
If the croc moved to snap the baby, Irwin could have pulled the baby away. If MJ had let his grip slip, there would have been no way to stop his kid from falling.
So, although Irwin was a little foolish to do that, the child was in no danger because he was in the hands of an expert. The media are blowing out of all proportion. Although on the popular angle the media portrays the child very near the croc, an angle released by irwin shows that the child was at least 2 meters from the croc, giving irwin sufficient time to react to any hostile movement.
So, yeah, Irwin, though a fool, was putting his child in no life threatening situation, though he may have exposed him to unnecessary risk he was in the hands of an expert whom weighed to risks and found them to be acceptable.
And remember guys, Irwin is a father. He loves his children as much as any other parent. He would never have taken his month old son out there if he felt that the risk was too high.
But what are your opinions?
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I agree with Ryo, he knows what he's doing. He aint Micheal Jackson.
EDIT - this is starting to get worrying Ryo. I must start a religious topic so we can go back to the opposite sides of the fence. To often now am I quick to forget the wise words of Jammer - "All the is required for the proliferation of evil is for good men to listen to Ryo"
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a.) The kid was acctually pretty far away from the croc and Steve was in between
b.) I'm sure the croc was more interested in that raw meat then the baby, I mean, the thing has obviously been around humans for awhile, I think it could tell the difference between "friend" and food in that situation
c.) Steve is a pro at these things, he would've been out of danger with his kid if the croc made even a slight agressive move
Really, none of what the media says is true, it's all full of **** these days. You can never really trust any news company these days, even they are "fair and balanced". (please don't sue me FOX <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
He is aware of the dangers and risks of dealing with dangerous animals, he should know that they are still that, dangerous animals, and i feel that putting a small child in the face of danger like that, dispite the minimal amount of risk, is irresponsible at least.
The media wants to make money, and we think shows and stories about our respective governments, new obscure laws and whatnot (you know, the important news) is kinda boring. It's our darned fault (as a whole) for getting in an uproar about things that don't really matter, and not really caring about things that do.
The media, like the bloodthirsty leech it is, continues sucking from the vein that nets it the most cash.
Now, if he had the kid by the heels and the kid was holding the meat. Then you have cause for concern.
Come on Ryo cut him some slack. He is milking these Americans for everything they have - I can admire a man like that. He is living the dream!
Also, when others said he was like Micheal Jackson, Steve got very angry. He said he was no Jacko. Lolz, I think Steve hates Jackson if I am not wrong. Comparing a USA singer to a Crocodile Hunter is certainly very funny.
Sigh........actually, Steve is kinda like my idol to me. I like reptiles, so does he. I wished I had even half of his courage.
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Have you started uni yet? If you live in a residential college, you'll soon get sick and tired of every Yank's room plastered with prints of their Australian idol.
I just reckon he makes us all look stupid. We've already got a reputation as a backwards British colony (at least in America) and Irwin just seems to perpetuate the myth. Oh well, at least he's milking the Yanks. And as long as they like Irwin, he stays away from us.
Nobody here watches his show or gives a **** about him, he's very over the top with this aussie-ness. Kind of the guy you'd only find in the country/outback. But the image of us could be further tarnished because of this.
If Irwin were to perpetuate any kind of stereotype. I think it would only be lingual stereotypes.
1.000.000 parents drive recklessly in their cars with children in the backseast, unbuckled daily. Irwin is a nutter that I just can't stand watching for more than 30 seconds. I do like the south park mockery of him though. There was a time when Animal Planet decided he was to be their mascot and flaunted him mercilessly for half a year. Those were dark days. Baby incident? Feh. No one got hurt. No one was in any provable danger. Meh. I think it's just a lot of people finally having a squealy Morally Superior way of Payinb Back Irwin for all the misery he has brought them in his miserable programmes.
Whats your opinion? Is he a fool?
In my opinion, he isnt a fool. He handles crocodiles for a living, he was meters away from the croc and was holding the baby as far as he could from it. Sure he did muck around a little bit in there, but he knew what he was doing.
If he weighed the risks and felt that he could safely bring his month old son into a croc enclosure, then that was his decision.
Although many media personnel have compared it to the MJ affair, there are vital differences.
If the croc moved to snap the baby, Irwin could have pulled the baby away. If MJ had let his grip slip, there would have been no way to stop his kid from falling.
So, although Irwin was a little foolish to do that, the child was in no danger because he was in the hands of an expert. The media are blowing out of all proportion. Although on the popular angle the media portrays the child very near the croc, an angle released by irwin shows that the child was at least 2 meters from the croc, giving irwin sufficient time to react to any hostile movement.
So, yeah, Irwin, though a fool, was putting his child in no life threatening situation, though he may have exposed him to unnecessary risk he was in the hands of an expert whom weighed to risks and found them to be acceptable.
And remember guys, Irwin is a father. He loves his children as much as any other parent. He would never have taken his month old son out there if he felt that the risk was too high.
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How can you disect that? THEY ARE BOTH EQUALLY STUPID FOR ENDANGERING THEIR CHILDREN.
SAVE TEH ENVIROMENT!!11one
One hung a child (not his own if I remember correctly - but feel free to let fly with nub accusations if I'm wrong) out a window in front of a crowd. Random and stupid.
The other took his child with him into a dangerous environment in which he was a professional, with a large amount of skills and experience in. Similar to Micheal Schumacher taking his child with him for a ride in his F1. Dangerous? Yes. But acceptable, at least imho.
We assume that's all fine and good, but you seem to be forgetting the fact that what THEY think is safe may not really be safe. I like Steve Irwin and all, but that was just a publicity stunt and his son's life was really in danger.
I just reckon he makes us all look stupid. We've already got a reputation as a backwards British colony (at least in America) and Irwin just seems to perpetuate the myth. Oh well, at least he's milking the Yanks. And as long as they like Irwin, he stays away from us. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can see why you're so angry. After all, who wants millions of tourist dollars injected into their teeny tiny economy, especially after the worst drought in 100 years and stagnant economic conditions? You should hang him up by his ankles! In other news, I'm going to go kick Walt Disney's frozen head around for bringing all these millions of foreign tourists to America every year. Bastich!
Myopia 1, Common Sense 0. Irwin's not the only guy without much forethought in Australia, it seems. And croc's aren't the only creatures that bite the hands that feeds... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I never said that Irwin is bad for our economy; like you said he probably gives us some tourism. I just don't like the image that he puts out to the world. Aussies really arn't like Irwin; he takes some aspects of Australianism and blows them all out of proportion.
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I don't see how I could misunderstand you. Do you also hate Mel Gibson, Nicole Kidman, and Russell Crowe? They perpetuate the myth that all Australians are good looking. A HUGE myth, by the way! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Don't see where you got that from. I never said Irwin was bad for our economy.
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You'd probably have to be Australian to understand it. I'm not sure how I could really explain it. Irwin just isn't popular here. The actors you mentioned are popular, but probably because they don't act in the same over-the-top manner that Irwin does.