Kazaa

FleaFlea Join Date: 2002-08-14 Member: 1151Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Steals text from other programs..</div>Well, I am one of the many people who uses kazaa, the file sharing P2P application.  I love it, except for one thing, it swipes the font of whatever i last wrote into its mp3 player, I wake up every day, write e-mails, chat on IM's and then it is suddenly reappears on kazaa.  It is a fun thing to watch, but sometimes it is so big that i cant read what mp3 i am playing..  entertaining... yet.. annoying..

Pardon my n00b smell, i just emerged from my egg.
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    your sig is too big
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    Well, one possible solution to your problem is a novel thing called actually buying the CD's, and not stealing the music.

    Oh, and your sig is too big, 400x75 is tops, with 22kb teh upper limit
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Take a look at the <a href="http://www.natural-selection.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=7;t=4484" target="_blank">sig rules</a>. As for your problem, I have not used kazaa in months, but I never had that problem when it did.
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    Yay, Kazaa 2's out.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Emerged from yer egg, eh? Well, KaZaA is evil. As are most Fileshar programs. Not all of 'em though.
  • VyvnVyvn Join Date: 2002-08-24 Member: 1226Members
    /me wonders why 3 people had to tell him his sig was too big.

    Anyway, I don't use Kazaa, I use WinMX and it works fine. Well actually, no I don't, I just came home one day and it was on my computer. Mysterious...
  • BillBill Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1108Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Legionnaired+Sep. 26 2002,21:36--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Legionnaired @ Sep. 26 2002,21:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, one possible solution to your problem is a novel thing called actually buying the CD's, and not stealing the music.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's a novel idea indeed!  Now can you tell me how I can purchase single songs from albums that aren't even on sale in my area?  
  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    yes, much better to steal them instead.

    Your sig is too friggin big Flea .. O_o
  • CollateralDamageCollateralDamage Join Date: 2002-07-15 Member: 949Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, one possible solution to your problem is a novel thing called actually buying the CD's, and not stealing the music.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    There is no stealing involved. Stealing means taking something so that the original owner doesn't have it anymore. However, nothing is being taken away by copying files.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->/me wonders why 3 people had to tell him his sig was too big.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Do you really? That reaction didn't surprise me at all.
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Guys, all I will say is this better not turn into a "Downloading online music is stealing" yelling fest. Argue all you want, but keep it nice <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    Who cares, I stole my avatar and noone will care <!--emo&::siege::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/siege.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::siege::'><!--endemo-->
  • BathroomMonkeyBathroomMonkey Feces-hurling Monkey Boy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 78Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Hell, we could keep the argument about the oncoming offensive in Iraq civil--  I'd hope we could do it here.

    At any rate, I'll begin by saying that I use kazaa occasionally-- for the most part to download covers, b sides, and new bands that I've heard of through word of mouth.  When I find a user with a good connection who has a song that I like, I scan their drive, and dl anything that sounds interesting.  I've found a decent number of great bands this way, and it's led to several hundred cd purchases.  Why?  Because I like music, and I’m one of the millions of people who can tell the difference between cd quality audio and a shabby little mp3.

    These days, however, I don't buy cds anymore (though, to date, I've purchased close to 1,000), and it can be blamed entirely on my irritation with the RIAA.  Though the entire country is approaching a recession, they choose to blame the entirety of their losses on piracy (though the industries associated with the devices necessary for piracy have sustained even steeper losses) and don't even consider that there may be people who are simply boycotting them.  Hey, you guys want to save some cash?  Then fire that fat, useless cow Hillary Rosen, who makes 1.2 mill per year, and then has the gall to chastise the average joe blue-collar consumer for questioning the $18 price tag that gets slapped on most new cds.  Morons.

    Hey, I tried the legit route—I even subscribed to emusic!  But the RIAA is waaaaay too concerned with trying to sustain their current business model—most notably, their tight control of distribution—especially of songs other than an album’s radio hits, so you’ll be forced to unwittingly drop the full price for a one hit wonder.  

    Even scarier are their efforts to curb your rights (and integrate policeware into YOUR computers) to protect their profit margins.  Check out what they and they and Senate lackey Fritz Hollings have in store for you and your PC:
    <a href="http://www.boycott-riaa.com" target="_blank">dig it.</a>
  • BioHazBioHaz Join Date: 2002-02-18 Member: 226Members
    Policeware will inevitably be required by law some day, but then people will come to thier sences and repeal the law because policeware is an invasion of privacy.  I see a "digital prohibition" on the horizion, and much like the prohibition of the past, it will most likely not last long.

    Who decided that we should put paniky morons with ties to major corporations in charge?   <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
  • CollateralDamageCollateralDamage Join Date: 2002-07-15 Member: 949Members
    The threat of policeware is real; what we need to do is use and propagate <a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html" target="_blank">Free Software</a>.

    Oh, and applying copyright laws to digital data is and always has been ridiculous. Bytes be free!
  • BattousaixBattousaix Join Date: 2002-06-25 Member: 822Members
    The only stuff i buy a lot is music cds..... Because it sounds sooooooooooo much better when you turn up your speakers.......
    Policeware is the most ridiculous thing i´ve heard of, and i think it´s going to get implemented in countries like usa.... But it won´t last long, that´s for sure.....
  • the_stalkerthe_stalker Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 49Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vyvn+Sep. 26 2002,23:02--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Vyvn @ Sep. 26 2002,23:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->/me wonders why 3 people had to tell him his sig was too big.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i agree with all the way there :\
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Battousai^^x+Sep. 27 2002,12:29--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Battousai^^x @ Sep. 27 2002,12:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->The only stuff i buy a lot is music cds..... Because it sounds sooooooooooo much better when you turn up your speakers.......
    Policeware is the most ridiculous thing i´ve heard of, and i think it´s going to get implemented in countries like usa.... But it won´t last long, that´s for sure.....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, only the bad USA does things like restrict your PC activities.

    <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26939.html" target="_blank">Oh wait...</a>
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    China is worse.  They have a gigantic firewall in place that blocks sites from all Chinese residents that might just contain offesive material (i.e the word poo).  This basically encompasses seven eighths of the internet, the remainder being "Ban Heavy Metal" or similar sites.

    The UK is also looking into implementing a watchdog system that monitors <b>all</b> of it's residents' internet activity.  I don't know about you, but I honestly don't relish the idea of some slimy government geek reading my peronal and private e-mails....
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes, only the bad USA does things like restrict your PC activities.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Battousai was talking about countries "like the USA", which would mean that he talked about the whole of the western world. The US are easily the most profilic example, especially since everyone has at least some idea of their policy.

    Also, the greek ban wasn't exactely aimed to control the PC activities of its people, it was supposed to limit gambilng, which <i>is</i> a serious problem in that country.
    A ridiculous, highly dangerous and completely ineffective law, yes, but none that tried to censor anything - although it inadvertedly did just that.
    A court descision has put it out of function for now.


    On the topic of online 'piracy', I completely agree with Bathroom Monkey. I for mine can't respect the RIAAs claims of copyright violations, simply because the companies it represents <i>didn't</i> produce anything we could copy <i>in the first place</i> - they bought those rights from the creatives, to terms the labels could largely define by themselves as they had effectively destroyed or pulled aside any kind of alternative.

    This does of course not justify stealing from the labels, since that would still deprive the artists from their income, but as it is, I can't see filesharing as stealing or piracy, but as advertising, much like radio or listening booths in CD stores:
    Since the beginning of the P2P era, the RIAAs companies income has never stopped rising - and that although their marketing policies of never ending amounts of one-hit-wonders were widely regarded as ruinous.
    Mrs. Rosen should face the truth and realize that P2P didn't harm her employers, but indeed kept them alive, if you allow me the exaggeration.


    For policeware and every other kind of spyware: Governments  and similarily powerful institutions have always tried to control their peoples media consume and activities - be it to for the "Schutz von Volk und Staat" (defense of people and state), the defense against communist influences, the defense against capitalist influence, the defense of our children, the defense against piracy, or the defense against terrorism.
    None of these means ever served the aims they were proclaimed to serve, they only did one thing: Lay power in the wrong hands.
    It's making me a little itchy to see people with an 'it will go by' kind of attitude; it would surely go by, sooner or later, but to tell you the truth, I'd rather see it never actually start.



    <!--EDIT|Nemesis Zero|Sep. 27 2002,15:23-->
  • FleaFlea Join Date: 2002-08-14 Member: 1151Members
    sorry about the big sig, it is fixed, also I'm gonna move to germany someday, much less crime, less than 20 murders a year.  (there are over 10,000 homocides a year in the USA)
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Erm, sorry to burst your bubble, but the amount of murders committed in Germany range far over 1000. The number of homicides, which count some avoidable accidents and similiar stuff in, is of course much higher.

    [edit]
    MonsE came up with <a href="http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs/hosb601.pdf" target="_blank">these</a> statistics. No further comments necessary, don'tchathink?
    [/edit]



    <!--EDIT|Nemesis Zero|Sep. 27 2002,17:35-->
  • Sgt_XSgt_X Join Date: 2002-03-01 Member: 261Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Flea+Sep. 27 2002,08:36--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Flea @ Sep. 27 2002,08:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->sorry about the big sig, it is fixed, also I'm gonna move to germany someday, much less crime, less than 20 murders a year.  (there are over 10,000 homocides a year in the USA)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'd call that would be a myth. It might be that you misinturpreted and that is talking about the homicide rate per every 1k of ppl or something like that, but not the total
  • FleaFlea Join Date: 2002-08-14 Member: 1151Members
    stupid german teacher... i believe too much..
  • titaniumrogertitaniumroger Join Date: 2002-10-15 Member: 1503Members
    if you like the music or progs or whatever you download so much, why dont you listen to what some people are saying and get off you &*( and go get them yourself
    i win
  • BiomechanoidBiomechanoid Join Date: 2002-02-12 Member: 203Members
    kazaalite


    no spyware, no hidden shiznit... it's a haxored version of kazaa. get it, love it, sleep with it.
  • SuperMunchkinSuperMunchkin Join Date: 2002-09-28 Member: 1364Members
    Kazaa is my friend.  I honestly don't see it as wrong, because of one simple fact.  Since I started using Kazaa I've bought more CD's than I ever would have simply by finding various songs by this or that artist.. and wanting to hear more of their stuff.

    I'm not the only one.  By having a way to distribute their music without cost- bands can get a fanbase that WILL pay for it.  How many NS play testers would be willing to pay for V1 if it was retail?  Exactly.
  • richard_of_richardlandrichard_of_richardland Join Date: 2002-05-29 Member: 687Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SuperMunchkin+Oct. 16 2002,17:42--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (SuperMunchkin @ Oct. 16 2002,17:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->How many NS play testers would be willing to pay for V1 if it was retail?  Exactly.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What do you mean exactly?

    Less than the amount who would pay if they didn't get to "try before you buy". With NS especially where thy hype is greater than the game. <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    <!--QuoteBegin--Flea+Sep. 27 2002,02:21--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Flea @ Sep. 27 2002,02:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Pardon my n00b smell, i just emerged from my egg.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Flea from rphl boards? hello. lol.
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1333Members
    *drags post back on topic*

    I use kazaalite, too... it's great, no spyware or anything, just no-bs file sharing.

    <a href="http://www.kazaalite.com" target="_blank">Kazaa Lite</a>

    Snag it!
  • loofboteloofbote Join Date: 2002-07-15 Member: 948Members
    Yea I use kazaalite too, it is better (make sure to get ad-aware too to get rid of the nasties that kazaa puts on your pc, ill post a link when I find its site again.) heh the if the U.S. government tries to monitor our pcs, people will make stuff to block it (heh free internet with banners you can now get rid of dem pesky banners&#33<!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->(ad-aware gets rid of all the spy-ware put on your pc)Anyone remeber the prohibition for the U.S. way back when making alcoholic drink illegal? Thank god for the mob! But yes they probably will try and do something like this and it would be a disaster(my damn government likes to screw up and not admit it like lots of other governments) And lots of people would say its against our rights and against the constitution... Heh thank god we dont have Al Gore as our president here "I invented the internet" god what a crackhead. I like our president bush, hes a normal guy (cant even say subliminal he says subliminable) Heh anyone else like to make fun of their own government? (eeeek whos that guy) *gulp* the U.S.A. is the best in the world. We our the strongest and smartest *gulp* We made everything good and we make the world a better place *whew*....... hes gone...................................................oww................................
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