I Need To A Good Comp. Program Ap.

Shadowlinex · January 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">Any nice ones.</div> Well, i just got into computer programing at my school and i would enjoy further my education at home on the topic. I have already used google to search around for some softerware. I tried Java, but i won't work on my computer for some odd reason, at school i'm using low tech QuickBasic. I was wonder if the community could give me some good software webpages where i can get a nice Computer Programing AP.

(Wow, never knew you can make Madlibs like that <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'> )

Shadowlinex · January 2004

Ok i just looked at my topic title again so sorry. (you know me and my bad spelling)

Over what i'm looking for is some kind of Programing Software <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

RPG_Jssmfulhud · January 2004

If you want a tough start... Microsoft Visual C++? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Aea · January 2004

As I remember About.com had great c++ tutorials not too long ago <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Zaphod · January 2004

They're teaching you QB? That's hilarious. That's what I used to program on when I was in middle school. If you're gunna start programming and are comfortable w/ computers (I assume you are), grab a C++ programmer and compiler from somewhere (just search for it on google or a general downloading site) and there are plenty of tutorials online. Also grabbing a "Learn <u>BLAH</u> in 21 Days" book always works. C# is a new language that is kinda like C/C++ and looks to be pretty useful (though I don't know personally). If you can get your hands on a MS Visual C++ or Visual Basic (my personal pref), that would be excellent, but they are expensive to get.
These guys look like they have a nice (free) C++ programmer and compiler application:
<a href='http://www.bloodshed.net/' target='_blank'>Bloodshed Dev</a>

Have fun!

OttoDestruct · January 2004

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zaphod @ Jan 13 2004, 07:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> They're teaching you QB? That's hilarious. That's what I used to program on when I was in middle school. If you're gunna start programming and are comfortable w/ computers (I assume you are), grab a C++ programmer and compiler from somewhere (just search for it on google or a general downloading site) and there are plenty of tutorials online. Also grabbing a "Learn <u>BLAH</u> in 21 Days" book always works. C# is a new language that is kinda like C/C++ and looks to be pretty useful (though I don't know personally). If you can get your hands on a MS Visual C++ or Visual Basic (my personal pref), that would be excellent, but they are expensive to get.
These guys look like they have a nice (free) C++ programmer and compiler application:
<a href='http://www.bloodshed.net/' target='_blank'>Bloodshed Dev</a>

Have fun!  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
For Dummies > 21 Days. And yes bloodshed pwns.

Shadowlinex · January 2004

Thank you all i'll get on that.

kinda sad, i'm in high school, but they said its only to see if we like it and i do, next we move to Java SUNONE studio witch i think is C++.

Nuketheplace · January 2004

I use to program in Qbasic. Oh man was that fun, the best program I ever did was 1000 lines of pset commands. Needless to say our teacher wasn't that good and about the only thing i remember now is what ? means.

pardzh · January 2004

Netbeans didn't work?

SoulSkorpion · January 2004

NO. Do not start on C++, unless you like pain. C++ was not made for programming newbies. Java is de-fanged C++, but a pain to set up. Nothing wrong with Qbasic; nice language to learn on.

What you're looking for, by the way, is a program that will take your code and in some way allow you to run it. In the case of Qbasic, that program is called an "interpreter", because it reads through your code and interprets it, running it line by line. In the case of C++, that program is called a "compiler", because it takes your code and compiles it into binary, so that it can run all by itself.

Couldn't say where to get an interpreter from, sorry. I can't remember where I got mine. There are some nice open source (ie, free) C++ compilers out there (well, to be more technical they're what we call Integrated Developer Environments. Kinda like notepad with fancy syntax colouring mixed with a compiler and a few other nice tools), but I still don't think you try c++ without any prior experience.

Oh, one last thing. Qbasic allows you to get away with all kinds of things, some of which are bad programming practice. Now, some people are really anal about good programming practice, and your teachers will be varying degrees of anal about it. Yeah, some of it's annoying and stupid and honestly quite un-neccessary. However, there is one thing I beseech you, for your own sake, <i>not to do</i>: do NOT use <span style='font-family:Courier'>goto</span>s. Please, if you value your sanity, do NOT use them. Just trust me on that.

Grillkohle · January 2004

For C++, I like Microsoft Visual C++ best.
Try <a href='http://www.jcreator.com/download.htm' target='_blank'>JCreator</a> if you are going to learn Java, its freeware, too.

Thansal · January 2004

I like Java as a starting language simply b/c of the massive amounts of resources out there for it
<a href='http://java.sun.com/' target='_blank'>http://java.sun.com/</a>
<a href='http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/' target='_blank'>http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/</a> how every command in java works <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

it is also free and farily simple.

My suggestion is to go get a book to learn from (it is honestly not that hard)

another suggestion is to find a college classes website that has all of their projects up there and practice doing those <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Shadowlinex · January 2004

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Duff-Man @ Jan 13 2004, 08:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Netbeans didn't work?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
No it didn't it happens in installer, it stops at 8% and stays there i was thinking because i have old windows ME.

NumbersNotFound · January 2004

I started on Turbo Pascal and i'm full-on into C++ now.

Turbo was a good beginner... the concepts of it were only partial, though, and they only really "clicked" when i started in C++.

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