Outlook Express

2of12B0RG2of12B0RG Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11285Members
<div class="IPBDescription">What's the friggin deal?</div> Ok, check this out, let me explain what's going on with my email crap.

I'll open outlook express to check my email, and everything is fine. But about every 5th or 6th time of doing so, my account information switches itself.

See, what I have circled in red should of course be up where the arrow is pointing to. But for some great unsolved mystery, it moves itself to my account box, precedes itself with a backslash, and replaces my pop server information with localhost. My account name stays there before it as well.

WTH? Anybody ever have this happen to them? Any ideas why this is happening or how to make it stop. It really isn't a big problem, just an annoyance.
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  • chis1chis1 Join Date: 2004-01-13 Member: 25281Members
    usually incoming mail consists of <i>pop.blahblah</i>

    maybe the one word, it is not liking it O_o
  • 2of12B0RG2of12B0RG Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11285Members
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I've never seen that before, nor is there any mention at the MS knowledgebase. Was your SMTP/POP info configured manually or did your ISP give you one of those auto-config apps to do it for you? And have you spoken to their support yet about it?
  • chis1chis1 Join Date: 2004-01-13 Member: 25281Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--2of12[B0RG]+Jan 14 2004, 03:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2of12[B0RG] @ Jan 14 2004, 03:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol... what? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you see how you have smpt.teleclipse.net beside "SMTP"

    you should have in the pop3 part something like pop.teleclipse.net or somehting, i think it has to be pop.blah.blah if you get me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • EmseeEmsee Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16644Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    Are you using any kind of external anti-spam / mail filtering software in conjuction with OE? PC-cillin Pop3scan for example is the most likely cause.
    They often change the server address to localhost because of the way they work.
    However some isp's mail servers aren't compatible with this.
    So you will need to disable the e-mail scanning of pc-cillin and any other mail filtering software then try it.

    Edit: cHIs- the problem is that OE keeps changing it to localhost.
  • 2of12B0RG2of12B0RG Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11285Members
    edited January 2004
    [QUOTE=cHIs-]you should have in the pop3 part something like pop.teleclipse.net or somehting, i think it has to be pop.blah.blah if you get me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->[/QUOTE]

    I know this... have you even read my question or what is happening?

    [QUOTE=MonsieurEvil] I've never seen that before, nor is there any mention at the MS knowledgebase. Was your SMTP/POP info configured manually or did your ISP give you one of those auto-config apps to do it for you? And have you spoken to their support yet about it?[/QUOTE]

    Heh, I know there is nothing at the MS base, that's why I came here. Maybe somebody has seen this before. As for configuration, I did that all myself. My ISP/town is so backwoods and redneck-y that they probably don't even know how to do it. Which is why I am reluctant to call support, because there have been times when they couldn't even answer simple networking configuration questions that my roommate asked them.


    lol how did I mess up the quote?
  • 2of12B0RG2of12B0RG Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11285Members
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--Emsee+Jan 14 2004, 10:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Emsee @ Jan 14 2004, 10:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are you using any kind of external anti-spam /  mail filtering software in conjuction with OE? PC-cillin Pop3scan for example is the most likely cause.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Aha! Thank you, that might very well be the cause, since that is exactly what I use.

    Any way around this?
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited January 2004
    Well, if you turn it off or uninstall it, does the issue go away? And as a side note, does your account continue to work even with the localhost setting? If your filter is acting as a mini-POP server and routing your mail, the localhost setting would make sense.
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--2of12[B0RG]+Jan 14 2004, 03:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2of12[B0RG] @ Jan 14 2004, 03:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->lol how did I mess up the quote?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You need to put the names in quotation marks i.e.
    <!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->[quote="Joe Bloggs"]This is how you use quotes[/quote]<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
    like so...<!--QuoteBegin--"Joe Bloggs"+--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ("Joe Bloggs")</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This is how you use quotes<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Or you could just switch to using an actual mail client, rather than something so full of security holes, it puts cheesecloth to shame. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    I would use something instead of Outlook Express but I'm not the only person that uses this comp.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Uh? Installing a client does not overwrite the old one. :b
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Talesin+Jan 14 2004, 01:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Jan 14 2004, 01:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Or you could just switch to using an actual mail client, rather than something so full of security holes, it puts cheesecloth to shame. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Something like <a href='http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/release-notes.html' target='_blank'>Thunderbird</a>, which is pathetically easy to switch to... install it, and literally about 3 clicks later you can have everything set up.

    It's got a junk mail filter too, if you have problems with that.
  • 2of12B0RG2of12B0RG Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11285Members
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--Talesin+Jan 14 2004, 01:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Jan 14 2004, 01:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Or you could just switch to using an actual mail client, rather than something so full of security holes, it puts cheesecloth to shame. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, it comes pre-installed with OS, and my virus program keeps everything at bay. It's simple and effective to use. Why bother switching?

    When everybody and their mother were getting those stupid viruses in their mail last year, everyone of them was caught on my end. Warnings flashed and outlook express in conjunction with my virus scanner would not even allow me to view the mail.

    And why the **** did you delete my sig, it's been up for god knows how long. You live to lock, delete, and belittle, don't you?
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited January 2004
    The pat response around here is, when you don't have a technical solution, tell the user he's stupid for using the product and insist he gets a different one. This is, of course, ridiculous and unacceptable - if he wants advice on a replacement client, he'll ask. Until then, offer real solutions, go post at crapholes like Slashdot, or shut your pieholes.

    That is all.

    To repeat my question of you, Borg:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, if you turn it off or uninstall it, does the issue go away? And as a side note, does your account continue to work even with the localhost setting? If your filter is acting as a mini-POP server and routing your mail, the localhost setting would make sense. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • 2of12B0RG2of12B0RG Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11285Members
    I don't feel the need to uninstall or turn off my virus scanner just to fix this problem. It is, like I said, a minor annoyance, not something that is computer threatening. When I feel like taking the time I guess I'll root around in PC-Cillin settings and see if I can change this.

    And no, the localhost setting will not let me retrieve mail at all. Actually, to be honest, I haven't even tried to delete my pop.teleclipse.net from the account line and leave localhost up top to see if it would retrieve the mail. Maybe I'll try that later.

    Thanks monse and everybody else for the help.
  • gorge_princessgorge_princess Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18467Members
    outlook express is evil. period.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    All I know is if Monse has never seen the problem, you're possessed by the devil or quite possibly SCO.
  • ConfuzorConfuzor Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2412Awaiting Authorization
    On an unrelated note, this kept happening to my desktop icons after a Windows update; kept friggin switching back from the sexy Noia Bogart icons into Windows default. Heck, I even got the StarDock IconPackager, but after each computer start up, it would always switch back.

    If I can't have my icons, NO ONE CAN! - I used TweakUI from Powertools to rid them from my desktop, and it's not too much of an inconvenience, since the MS keyboard my sister got me to replace the crappy Fujitsu one has such amazing keys... like "My Computer", and "Mail", and, holy crap... "Web/Home"!

    Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!
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