Question: Is Powerstrip Cheating?

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  • titaniumtitanium Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22166Members
    the level of ignorance in this thread is absolutely incredible
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    Is powerstrip cheating?

    Short answer, yes with a but.
    Long answer no with a maybe.

    I can see the good it does, helping people with (To be honest, burned out monitors that should have been trashed years ago, get a job and buy a new one ya damned freaks) crap monitors and all.

    But for every one person who uses it to actually play the game, there's two billion trillion quadrillion others who use it to make everything SUPER ULTRA OMG MY EYES CHRIST OW bright.. either to spot a cloaking alien, or whatever.

    Either way, I keep hearing so much complaining about how the new maps are "so F@$)(ING DARK", yet I have played them since day one and not lost my way due to brightness problems.

    Of course, it helps that I have a monitor that was made <i>in the past five years,</i> and not in <i>Guatemala</i>, but you know.. whatever. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • 2of12B0RG2of12B0RG Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11285Members
    Sooo ....

    I am a l33t haxor because I use powerstrip?

    Whenever I alt-tab out of games, I return and it is too dark to see 2 ft in front of me. I use the hotkeys to return it to default gamma.

    Wow. Everyday I become so much more l33t3r in many different ways because of people opinions.
  • WarfareWarfare Join Date: 2002-10-29 Member: 1697Members
    There's a much simplier way to do it than powerstrip, but I find it stupid, and cheating.

    I used it to an extend, by reducing the darkness, since I broke my monitor as I slipped on the ice carrying it to the car for a LAN, making me unable to tune up the screen's gamma and brightness to the max.

    to put it simple: In bast, the Atmospheric room was COMPLETELY black, save the white spot under the dripping fan. I mean completely.
    With a new screen, the room was actually quite bright (without modifying the game's visibility).

    It's cheating to use it to your advantage, and I know that ALOT of people do it.
    For one, it detects cloaked players. You can easier see their shade move, and doesn't require you to glow like a Christian burned on the stake in the ancients (read: use your flashlight).

    My vote? Bannable offense.
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-2of12[B0RG]+Feb 6 2004, 07:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2of12[B0RG] @ Feb 6 2004, 07:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sooo ....

    I am a l33t haxor because I use powerstrip?

    Whenever I alt-tab out of games, I return and it is too dark to see 2 ft in front of me. I use the hotkeys to return it to default gamma.

    Wow. Everyday I become so much more l33t3r in many different ways because of people opinions. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The gamma and sound problems caused by alt tabbing out of HL are all fixed in STEAM afaik.

    Pizowned. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MintmanMintman Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16866Members
    Even if you were stupid enough to make using it a bannable offence, how the hell are you going to tell if some random person, maybe even from an entirely different continent, is using it? The could after all (heaven forbid) just be that good.
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mintman+Feb 6 2004, 11:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mintman @ Feb 6 2004, 11:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even if you were stupid enough to make using it a bannable offence, how the hell are you going to tell if some random person, maybe even from an entirely different continent, is using it? The could after all (heaven forbid) just be that good. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Simple.

    Get cloaking.

    Stand in a wide open spot with no direct spotlights on you, nowhere a lerk would gas, etc, but somewhere near high marine traffic areas.

    Stand there unmoving for up to a minute.

    If the gamma is high enough to spot you, he'll fire from a mile away EXACTLY at you, and it's admin_ban time.

    If you get bumped into, scanned.. then try again. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    The reason I say stay still for a minute is motion tracking. Damn them wallhax. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SillyGooseSillyGoose Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14572Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Delphi+Feb 6 2004, 11:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Feb 6 2004, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mintman+Feb 6 2004, 11:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mintman @ Feb 6 2004, 11:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even if you were stupid enough to make using it a bannable offence, how the hell are you going to tell if some random person, maybe even from an entirely different continent, is using it? The could after all (heaven forbid) just be that good. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Simple.

    Get cloaking.

    Stand in a wide open spot with no direct spotlights on you, nowhere a lerk would gas, etc, but somewhere near high marine traffic areas.

    Stand there unmoving for up to a minute.

    If the gamma is high enough to spot you, he'll fire from a mile away EXACTLY at you, and it's admin_ban time.

    If you get bumped into, scanned.. then try again. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    The reason I say stay still for a minute is motion tracking. Damn them wallhax. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    heh its funny because I spot cloaked skulks all the time and I dont have "h5xx0red gamma".
  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swift Idiot+Feb 5 2004, 08:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swift Idiot @ Feb 5 2004, 08:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eggmac+Feb 5 2004, 08:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eggmac @ Feb 5 2004, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->sad thread.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>
    I'd like to think that my post contributed at least <i>something</i>... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Can't I get extra credit for effort?</span>

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    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Actually it's in the mapping guidelines that areas should never be dark enough to hide a player. It should "FEEL dark without acvtual BEING dark" is I believe the actual quote. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>
    Can someone help me name that Combat map which was recently featured as having little spaces that marines can hide in where an onos can't reach, but where the marines can easily shoot out of on the tables or something, and some smacktard was calling it an exploit? The alien hive room is almost directly ripped off of ns_bast (RIP) Engine Room hive? It has an elevator near MS which leads down into this deeply shadowed vent room, which leads into a nearly pitch black subterranian cooling room or something? And there's that door which has one side just DEEP in darkness large enough to hide a Fade?

    ngga plz, WFT is the deal there? If a guideline for map making is that there be no areas large or dark enough to hide a player, that corner needs to go. As it is, I stay with my back pressed to the wall when I get into that room, and even as an alien I dash through there as fast as I can go.

    I believe that such areas of a map make the map more fun on the whole. You have nice, bright areas where the reaction-speed junkies can go fight it out, and you have dark and shadowy cargo rooms where you stalk around and play cat and mouse. In just the same way, really successful maps in any mod I've seen have a little something for everyone.

    Except maybe awp_map... but we won't go there.

    Regardless, I happen to enjoy the ambience of Natural Selection, and I'd like it if I could please hang from the deep, dank turbine shadows and watch your every move (FILTHY HYOO-MON) without you randomly swinging your POV around, spotting me in the complete darkness, and blasting me to goo in point five seconds.</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heh, your right. The dark rooms are the best. The even better ones are the long, wide hallways with the light only in the center, while the rest is almost pitch black...where did he go? ...you dont know.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Back on topic. If somone has to use it, let them use it for their monitor, but if somone has to use it just so they can "see better," then I think thats a total cheat. The map shouldnt be bright as heck just so you can see where the buggers are, there are dark places for a reason, weenie.
  • MrDDTMrDDT Join Date: 2004-02-06 Member: 26129Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Delphi+Feb 6 2004, 11:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Feb 6 2004, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mintman+Feb 6 2004, 11:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mintman @ Feb 6 2004, 11:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even if you were stupid enough to make using it a bannable offence, how the hell are you going to tell if some random person, maybe even from an entirely different continent, is using it? The could after all (heaven forbid) just be that good. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Simple.

    Get cloaking.

    Stand in a wide open spot with no direct spotlights on you, nowhere a lerk would gas, etc, but somewhere near high marine traffic areas.

    Stand there unmoving for up to a minute.

    If the gamma is high enough to spot you, he'll fire from a mile away EXACTLY at you, and it's admin_ban time.

    If you get bumped into, scanned.. then try again. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    The reason I say stay still for a minute is motion tracking. Damn them wallhax. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You can see cloaked even if you dont have PS or any kinda weird gamma settings.

    They leave a small shadow.
  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    i wouldnt know, by the time u see me youre dead <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    The problem here is that no one can decide the gamma level which NS should be set at, some people think there should be darker areas, but not pitch black shadows, others think that game is more about atmosphere, others care more about playing. In reality theres very little which can be done about this, so if everyone else is playing with ps or gamma 500 settings then if you don't you may give urself a disadvantage (dispite this logic I dont play with high gamma). However I never hide in the shadows any more unless im cloaked, cause it doesnt make much difference.
  • SuicideRusherSuicideRusher Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13893Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Delphi+Feb 7 2004, 03:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Feb 7 2004, 03:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mintman+Feb 6 2004, 11:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mintman @ Feb 6 2004, 11:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even if you were stupid enough to make using it a bannable offence, how the hell are you going to tell if some random person, maybe even from an entirely different continent, is using it? The could after all (heaven forbid) just be that good. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Simple.

    Get cloaking.

    Stand in a wide open spot with no direct spotlights on you, nowhere a lerk would gas, etc, but somewhere near high marine traffic areas.

    Stand there unmoving for up to a minute.

    If the gamma is high enough to spot you, he'll fire from a mile away EXACTLY at you, and it's admin_ban time.

    If you get bumped into, scanned.. then try again. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    The reason I say stay still for a minute is motion tracking. Damn them wallhax. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    if you ban for that, i hope no one ever joins your server again.
  • SlayerOfSkulksSlayerOfSkulks Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17634Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Delphi+Feb 6 2004, 11:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Feb 6 2004, 11:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But for every one person who uses it to actually play the game, there's two billion trillion quadrillion others who use it to make everything SUPER ULTRA OMG MY EYES CHRIST OW bright.. either to spot a cloaking alien, or whatever. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What are you basing that on? I'd guess it was the opposite; that there would be far more people using it legitimately than people using it to cheat... But unless you know something I don't, we don't have any figures to say for certain one way or the other.
  • ctverecekctverecek Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11821Members
    PowerStrip is ok...
  • VektuzVektuz Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2396Members
    I have a very BRIGHT monitor.

    This is odd though....

    For some reason, when NS runs, it adjusts my gamma even HIGHER than it usualy is... I don't run power strip or anything. The light areas are really light... the dark areas... well,, I can sorta see in them even if they are pitch black (but they are REALLY dark... but seeable). There is no 'dark room'.

    The funny part is, I didnt actually mess with any settings, thats how it came.

    The weirder part is, my brother has an identical monitor to me, the exact same model (Viewsonic A70), and on his, even with everything cranked up to the max, with his gamma cranked up to the max, with all his settings up to the max, he can hardly see anything in NS... like... he's at a SEVERE disadvantage in comparison. Maybe he should use powerstrip to even it out or something.

    The moral of the story: Don't use darkness to hide yourself, theres always someone with a brighter monitor. Use cloak ;p
  • anguishanguish Join Date: 2003-07-31 Member: 18623Members
    Uhhh
    I'd like to be able to SEE the game..
    if I don't adjust my colors appropriately it's impossible to see anything...

    It's not cheating.. It's being smart..


    Seems to be the problem with games these days.. everyone is stuck on the 'dark and murky' look.. I'm tired of trying to grope my way through a black **** game...
  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    edited February 2004
    Okay, here it is: PowerStrip isn't a hack, it's a tweaking utility. Some people need it in order to play a game normally. I used to use it, I had a 700 Mhz Intel chipset computer, 4MB graphics integrated (that had no OpenGL support), and a monitor older than me. I tweaked it so that I could actually see, but not enough to make out dark corners. Frankly, seeing dark corners probably wouldn't matter if you <b>need</b> a program like this, because you're probably getting 2 frames/sec anyway. Now I have a 2.8 Ghz. rig with a Radeon 9800 XT and a brand new monitor. I need no apps, use no tweaks, life is good. But some people need it, and it's not a hack. It can be used to gain an unfair advantage, but that's not the programs fault, it was created with good intentions. Even though it's been stated about twenty five thousand times over in this thread...


    <b><i><u>POWERSTRIP CAN'T BE BLAMED FOR PEOPLE THAT USE IT BEYOND IT'S PURPOSE. THAT'S LIKE SPEEDING AND SAYING IT'S THE CAR'S FAULT IT FOR BEEING ABLE TO GO THAT FAST. EVEN HACKS, HAX AREN'T TO BLAME, BUT RATHER THE PEOPLE THAT USE THEM.</u></i></b>Though they certainly don't help... And <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD</span>
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