Wtf?
Howling
Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 97Members
Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 97Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Someone is steeling something...?</div>Hey, I AM ACTUALLY POSTING SOMETHING AGAIN! WOOHOO!
Well anyway, that's mainly because I feel that maybe the integrity of Natural Selection has been tarnished:
<a href="http://www.conditionzero.com/" target="_blank">http://www.conditionzero.com/</a>
Dunno if it's old news, but what texture is that I see in the background of that logo? Is it me? Do I need new goggles, or is that - oh yes - a Natural Selection texture?
Damn CSers...
Well anyway, that's mainly because I feel that maybe the integrity of Natural Selection has been tarnished:
<a href="http://www.conditionzero.com/" target="_blank">http://www.conditionzero.com/</a>
Dunno if it's old news, but what texture is that I see in the background of that logo? Is it me? Do I need new goggles, or is that - oh yes - a Natural Selection texture?
Damn CSers...
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Thanks for mentioning this (Cory beat you to it though).
but it is always nice to ask if you could use it, or give a little bit credit to the people who original created it.
yeh, it usually is like compliment, but in situations of competition, THEY MIGHT GET ALL THE DAMN CREDIT FOR SOMETHING WE DID
NUKE THEM DAMN BASTARDINOS!
It does look suspiciously like a Natural Selection texture, yes - but I wasn't aware you had to spend money to own the copyright on your own work. To register a trademark, yes, but to own copyright? Nah...
And as for textures?
<a href="http://www.shaderlab.com/beta/?p=textures/sci-fi/majestic" target="_blank">http://www.shaderlab.com/beta/?p=textures/sci-fi/majestic</a>
<a href="http://www.shaderlab.com/beta/?p=textures/archived" target="_blank">http://www.shaderlab.com/beta/?p=textures/archived</a>
Look kind of familiar - and there's a copyright notice!
<!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
And the Shaderlab textures were used with explicit written permission of the owner.
NEXT!
Woah... you're really taking it serious! Thats good!
Those shaderlab textures only made their way into the NS wad through Relic's use of them in his Bast map. And he made sure to ask the shaderlab guy for permission to use his textures. And I believe he is going to be crediting him as well in the map documentaion.
There are no textures in the official NS wad that haven't been cleared through the proper channels to avoid copyright infringement issues.
As far as copyrighting goes, my understanding was that you can protect your work simply by stating that is copyrighted. But actually paying for a full copyright protection allows you to sue for much more damages then you would be able to get otherwise. Copyrighted or no, it's still just wrong to use someones work without their permission.
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<a href="http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#hsc" target="_blank">http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#hsc</a>
Ermm... It seems legally binding copyright <b>is</b> automatic, but...
<a href="http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#cr" target="_blank">http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#cr</a>
... To get any real benefit from it, you need to give plenty of cash money to lots of happy lawyers. Well, $30, but that isn't cheap. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
Plus, it appears that if you 'publish' your work, you have to send two copies of it to them.
I imagine you know far more about this than me, so I'd better leave it to the experts. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
And the textures? I assumed you'd got permission or whatever, but there wasn't any notice of this in the (slightly minimal) NSTR1 documentation.
Oh well... I think I'd better stick to mapping.
Also, here is the most pertinant part of that entire government document:
"A work that is created (fixed in tangible form for the first time) on or after January 1, 1978, is automatically protected from the moment of its creation and is ordinarily given a term enduring for the author's life plus an additional 70 years after the author's death."
The only reason to file a copyright is to protect the original documents in a sealed, dated envelope in the event that legal issues should arise later. It is equally effective to do a "poor man's" copyright registration by simply placing the documents in a sealed envelope and mailing them to <i>yourself</i> via registered mail. Once you receive it back in the mail, simply store it and never break the seal placed on the envelope by the post office. I've done this many times for my own past freelance work.
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Does that include on a computer hard-drive disk? It's definitely readable with the aid of a machine...
-Jacius
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For example, if someone got into the head office of some examination board, found the answers to his upcoming his text and wrote them down on a piece of paper, everything he has done is perfectly legal. He would only be breaking the law if he took the original piece of paper or had to break in to get there.