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only on disabled servers <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> (which is hardly none)
<!--QuoteBegin-crono^+Feb 10 2004, 09:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (crono^ @ Feb 10 2004, 09:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ok, that's not lame, but scripting in order to get an advantage in the game, ie. easier kills, quicker movemtn etc.. is. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No such thing, scripting is nothing more than customization.
i really dont understand how its possible to have a new script thread once a week, and how it throws the ns community into such an upheaval. scripts do not add any skill to any ppl, it is just customization as yumosis pointed out. they arent suddenly going to wall hack you, or be 1000x better. this is the only gaming community that takes a script to attack and switch weapons so seriously. it really is childish.
Lastinv and so on are pretty much ingame default's...it's not any kind of scripts which crams half a dozen actions onto one button, or fires off the gun for you ect...
I will always think scripts are lame (mostly becuase i havent tried or dont know how to do them <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
<!--QuoteBegin-_Creep_+Feb 10 2004, 08:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (_Creep_ @ Feb 10 2004, 08:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I thought scripts were disabled with the disabling of ';' ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> no, there is no anti-scripting unless you enable mp_blockscripts 1 that disables wait and _special
Question: How do you define a fair script? E.g. some people here believe that blink-swipe scripts are fair. How do you differentiate between these and pistol scripts?
Personally, I think there is nothing wrong with scripts as long as they do not make up for a lack of skill. I.e. if you are incapable of blink-swiping or bunny hopping and you need a script to do so, that is bad. If you use scripts to make communication easier, or as a utility (e.g. you have a script to team_say "Come here if you need welding!" and select your welder) then there is nothing wrong. I don't think I could come up with a way to differentiate code-wise though, so I'd prefer to ban all scripts rather than allow all (the communication stuff can be done by binding two keys instead of one, the skill stuff would require that you actually have the skills).
<!--QuoteBegin-Skyrage+Feb 10 2004, 02:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skyrage @ Feb 10 2004, 02:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> or fires off the gun for you ect... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I have a script for that. Check it out. bind "mouse1" "+attack" It's teh win.
you should know that you don't actually need that script <: just place your fingers to W, 1, 2 & mouse1 . Learn it, master it. Or rebind your keys q=slot1, e=slot2. aahhhhh.. its so easy its almost silly
yea with fade i just use...q..for last inv..works just as good...ive seen my self do kills looked like i blinked though him and he died but i really slashed to..i was like omg hax!!but then remembered it was me playing and i really suck except for a few l33t kills
There is a way to end this discussion forever, the developers could put approved scripts in the game. One for Blink/Swipe that could be used for Leap/Bite too, this would also even out the skill level needed to be an "1337" fade or skulk.
Also, when I am playing and there is a super Fade or Skulk I tend to assume they are using a script, not that I mind its just a game.
Makes me wonder why Flayra defaulted anti-scripting to OFF. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I think scripts are lame. Just like cHIs- said: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->AHH "RUN;JUMP;BITE;RUNBACKSTEPS;BACKFLIP;PARASITE;CLOAK;HOLDWALK;BITE;F4;FORWARD;LEFT;SHOOT"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In a game I played a few minutes ago, I took down JP:ers with my fade. I don't think I would be so happy if I just had to press one button and turn my mouse a little bit to kill all of them. Instead, after 20 tries I got first one of them down by blinking, switch to slash, hit, blink away. I actually fealt that... I could do something right!!
It was very rewarding feeling. If I had done it with a script... I'd think I'm lame <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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You missed the -attack
Generally when it ocmes to scripts where they have a + in front of them, there's always a counter-part to it, the -<i>x</i> comand
There's +<i>x</i> and -<i>x</i>, where x is your command which requires such a switch.
BE A REAL MAN AND USE YOUR MIDDLE MOUSE SCROLLER (if you have one )
RAWR!:)
No such thing, scripting is nothing more than customization.
The old saying comes to mind "To each his own"
it really is childish.
its like
AHH "RUN;JUMP;BITE;RUNBACKSTEPS;BACKFLIP;PARASITE;CLOAK;HOLDWALK;BITE;F4;FORWARD;LEFT;SHOOT"
yeah.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
no, there is no anti-scripting unless you enable mp_blockscripts 1 that disables wait and _special
Personally, I think there is nothing wrong with scripts as long as they do not make up for a lack of skill. I.e. if you are incapable of blink-swiping or bunny hopping and you need a script to do so, that is bad. If you use scripts to make communication easier, or as a utility (e.g. you have a script to team_say "Come here if you need welding!" and select your welder) then there is nothing wrong. I don't think I could come up with a way to differentiate code-wise though, so I'd prefer to ban all scripts rather than allow all (the communication stuff can be done by binding two keys instead of one, the skill stuff would require that you actually have the skills).
I have a script for that. Check it out.
bind "mouse1" "+attack"
It's teh win.
aahhhhh.. its so easy its almost silly
However, on topic, you need "wait;"s inbetween the commands, half life can't execute commands fast enough for the script to work.
bind mouse2 "+blink"
alias +blink "weapon_blink"
alias -blink "weapon_swipe"
this way whenever you hold down mouse2 and attack, you will blink, and when you release mouse2 and attack you will swipe
anyway i though it was just <b>wait </b>they took out
Also, when I am playing and there is a super Fade or Skulk I tend to assume they are using a script, not that I mind its just a game.
alias -lame "***!!!!"
bind all "+lame"
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In a game I played a few minutes ago, I took down JP:ers with my fade. I don't think I would be so happy if I just had to press one button and turn my mouse a little bit to kill all of them. Instead, after 20 tries I got first one of them down by blinking, switch to slash, hit, blink away. I actually fealt that... I could do something right!!
It was very rewarding feeling. If I had done it with a script... I'd think I'm lame <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->