<!--QuoteBegin-Fatalflaw+Feb 19 2004, 01:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatalflaw @ Feb 19 2004, 01:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Hawkeye+Feb 19 2004, 01:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hawkeye @ Feb 19 2004, 01:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> WHATEVER YOU DO! DO NOT PUT HAIRDRYERS IN THE BATH TUB WITH YOU!!!
I work for Shell and Unical 76 and I can tell you that this is a load of crap, the only place it was actually reported to have happened was Australia, and there were other factors like a super hot day and such. I did not get a memo or any kind of press release about this from Shell, and even if they did say it, its only to cover their arses in case of a law suit (dr.d)
Think about how many people jiggle the nozzle to make sure that nothing drips on the car, thats metal to metal contact, if there was a chance for a fire that would be it.
Now filling up your gas container while on the back of your trucked will definitely expose you to a higher risk of burmination, because of the static build up in the plastic.
<!--QuoteBegin-GreyPaws+Feb 19 2004, 02:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GreyPaws @ Feb 19 2004, 02:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Think about how many people jiggle the nozzle to make sure that nothing drips on the car, thats metal to metal contact, if there was a chance for a fire that would be it.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> From what I understand, most of the pumps in the U.S. (cant speak for other countries except Sweden and Korea cause I've been 2 both places) have nozzels made out of a special kind of metal that is specifically designed not to throw sparks. You could strike the nozel on metal or even a granite stone all day and it wont spark, dare I say even a flint stone. Engineers have already forseen possible sparking from that scenario and have already prevented against.
Secondly another reason the cellphone theory is complete bs is the size of cellphones now, it would be completely asanine to think that cellphones throw sparks even in the slightest. All the electrical components are secured inside insulated, magnetically shielded circuit paths on the boards and lets say a spark does fly, kiss the phone goodbye because that sensitive of equipment couldnt handle a spark of any kind. It'd fry itself.
You can look up anything here on the internet if you want to cross-check these facts.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now filling up your gas container while on the back of your trucked will definitely expose you to a higher risk of burmination, because of the static build up in the plastic.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now I do definatly agree with this, plastic especially during dry days has a huge chance of building up a static discharge.
Another thing that everyone quite possibly knows, and if you dont, this is for you lol. The gasoline itself isnt all that dangerous, still dangerous but not that much, as say fumes of the gas are. I've put out a ciggerette in a bucket of gas and it extinguished it just fine. But hold it above the pale where the fumes are really dense for a bit, hope you and your hand have already said your goodbyes. =P
Well I have to say I've never heard of anyone causing a fire with a cell phone... but my dad used to be in the fire department, and they got a call of a gas leak at storage tankers out on some maint road or some crap. It was early in the morning so the fire chief went to check it out, he gets there, confirms the leak, opens his truck door, keys the mic on his CB, and BOOM. Bye bye chief D:. Don't know if it was the radio waves or a spark in the radio or what. But I imagine it the same type of thing. Or not <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
<!--QuoteBegin-Fatalflaw+Feb 19 2004, 08:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatalflaw @ Feb 19 2004, 08:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->From what I understand, most of the pumps in the U.S. (cant speak for other countries except Sweden and Korea cause I've been 2 both places) have nozzels made out of a special kind of metal that is specifically designed not to throw sparks. You could strike the nozel on metal or even a granite stone all day and it wont spark, dare I say even a flint stone. Engineers have already forseen possible sparking from that scenario and have already prevented against.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->There are also sparkless tools for working in explosive environments, for example grain mills, petro-chemical plants and the like.
<!--QuoteBegin-Fatalflaw+Feb 19 2004, 08:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatalflaw @ Feb 19 2004, 08:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Another thing that everyone quite possibly knows, and if you dont, this is for you lol. The gasoline itself isnt all that dangerous, still dangerous but not that much, as say fumes of the gas are. I've put out a ciggerette in a bucket of gas and it extinguished it just fine. But hold it above the pale where the fumes are really dense for a bit, hope you and your hand have already said your goodbyes. =P<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->Another example is, IIRC, during the Falklands War, a British ship was hit by an exocet missle and started to burn. The missle ruptured the diesel tanks though and the fire was smothered by a huge amount of diesel fuel.
Still, I wouldn't recomend trying the extinguishing a flame in petrol/gas, just incase the vapour ignites whilst you move the flame through the vapour.
<!--QuoteBegin-dr.d+Feb 19 2004, 12:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Feb 19 2004, 12:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes and we all know scalding hot coffee will burn you if you spill it yet she won the case against McDonalds.
Verizion issues no such warnings with their phones, no such warnings in the instructions, and no such warnings anywhere in their tech support papers. So if this was true you could sue them even before anything happened for emotional trauma after finding out it was true because you had used your cell phone at a gas pump with no forward knowledge that it was dangerous.
In case you can't tell I'm studying civil torts in school : P <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If I recall correctly, she won the case soley because at the time there was no warning label on the cup.
And check your cell phone's user manual. Odds are it says something about obeying signs such as the ones on the gas pumps, hospitals, and airplanes.
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Feb 19 2004, 06:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Feb 19 2004, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-dr.d+Feb 19 2004, 12:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Feb 19 2004, 12:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes and we all know scalding hot coffee will burn you if you spill it yet she won the case against McDonalds.
Verizion issues no such warnings with their phones, no such warnings in the instructions, and no such warnings anywhere in their tech support papers. So if this was true you could sue them even before anything happened for emotional trauma after finding out it was true because you had used your cell phone at a gas pump with no forward knowledge that it was dangerous.
In case you can't tell I'm studying civil torts in school : P <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If I recall correctly, she won the case soley because at the time there was no warning label on the cup.
And check your cell phone's user manual. Odds are it says something about obeying signs such as the ones on the gas pumps, hospitals, and airplanes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It doesn't doom, and that's my point, even if the manual did there would have to be a sign on the phone because if it happened in a gas station with no sign and the phone had no sign and the terms of use on the phone service didn't require the user to read the manual you could still sue and win.
This kinda stuff is what I have come to call "Assisted Natural Selection". People that eliminate themselves through pure stupidity, darwin awards anybody?
Kinda Off-topic, but I was at the gas station the other day and a girl that must have been only just 16 was driving around what was evidently her parents nice explorer. She pulled into the gas station to fill up her car, well she obviously had no idea how to do this. She started to put the nossile into the gas tank except she pulled the lever before it was all the way in. So gas starts spraying on the side of the car, by the look of her, she couldn't care less. She just jams the nossile into the gas opening and waits while it fills up. It finishes filling up and she drives away, not even taking second thought of what is going to happen to the paint on the side of the car or tire. She dosen't even stop to try and whipe it off. Don't they teach anybody anything?
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'nuff said. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ONLY TOASTERS!!
This concludes the public service announcment.
*sings* the moooorree yooouuu knnnnoooowwwww..... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Make sure they're plugged in first, too.
It's like lamenating DvDs..........
Think about how many people jiggle the nozzle to make sure that nothing drips on the car, thats metal to metal contact, if there was a chance for a fire that would be it.
Now filling up your gas container while on the back of your trucked will definitely expose you to a higher risk of burmination, because of the static build up in the plastic.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
From what I understand, most of the pumps in the U.S. (cant speak for other countries except Sweden and Korea cause I've been 2 both places) have nozzels made out of a special kind of metal that is specifically designed not to throw sparks. You could strike the nozel on metal or even a granite stone all day and it wont spark, dare I say even a flint stone. Engineers have already forseen possible sparking from that scenario and have already prevented against.
Secondly another reason the cellphone theory is complete bs is the size of cellphones now, it would be completely asanine to think that cellphones throw sparks even in the slightest. All the electrical components are secured inside insulated, magnetically shielded circuit paths on the boards and lets say a spark does fly, kiss the phone goodbye because that sensitive of equipment couldnt handle a spark of any kind. It'd fry itself.
You can look up anything here on the internet if you want to cross-check these facts.
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Now filling up your gas container while on the back of your trucked will definitely expose you to a higher risk of burmination, because of the static build up in the plastic.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now I do definatly agree with this, plastic especially during dry days has a huge chance of building up a static discharge.
Another thing that everyone quite possibly knows, and if you dont, this is for you lol. The gasoline itself isnt all that dangerous, still dangerous but not that much, as say fumes of the gas are. I've put out a ciggerette in a bucket of gas and it extinguished it just fine. But hold it above the pale where the fumes are really dense for a bit, hope you and your hand have already said your goodbyes. =P
<!--QuoteBegin-Fatalflaw+Feb 19 2004, 08:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatalflaw @ Feb 19 2004, 08:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Another thing that everyone quite possibly knows, and if you dont, this is for you lol. The gasoline itself isnt all that dangerous, still dangerous but not that much, as say fumes of the gas are. I've put out a ciggerette in a bucket of gas and it extinguished it just fine. But hold it above the pale where the fumes are really dense for a bit, hope you and your hand have already said your goodbyes. =P<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->Another example is, IIRC, during the Falklands War, a British ship was hit by an exocet missle and started to burn. The missle ruptured the diesel tanks though and the fire was smothered by a huge amount of diesel fuel.
Still, I wouldn't recomend trying the extinguishing a flame in petrol/gas, just incase the vapour ignites whilst you move the flame through the vapour.
Verizion issues no such warnings with their phones, no such warnings in the instructions, and no such warnings anywhere in their tech support papers. So if this was true you could sue them even before anything happened for emotional trauma after finding out it was true because you had used your cell phone at a gas pump with no forward knowledge that it was dangerous.
In case you can't tell I'm studying civil torts in school : P <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If I recall correctly, she won the case soley because at the time there was no warning label on the cup.
And check your cell phone's user manual. Odds are it says something about obeying signs such as the ones on the gas pumps, hospitals, and airplanes.
Verizion issues no such warnings with their phones, no such warnings in the instructions, and no such warnings anywhere in their tech support papers. So if this was true you could sue them even before anything happened for emotional trauma after finding out it was true because you had used your cell phone at a gas pump with no forward knowledge that it was dangerous.
In case you can't tell I'm studying civil torts in school : P <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If I recall correctly, she won the case soley because at the time there was no warning label on the cup.
And check your cell phone's user manual. Odds are it says something about obeying signs such as the ones on the gas pumps, hospitals, and airplanes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It doesn't doom, and that's my point, even if the manual did there would have to be a sign on the phone because if it happened in a gas station with no sign and the phone had no sign and the terms of use on the phone service didn't require the user to read the manual you could still sue and win.
Kinda Off-topic, but I was at the gas station the other day and a girl that must have been only just 16 was driving around what was evidently her parents nice explorer. She pulled into the gas station to fill up her car, well she obviously had no idea how to do this. She started to put the nossile into the gas tank except she pulled the lever before it was all the way in. So gas starts spraying on the side of the car, by the look of her, she couldn't care less. She just jams the nossile into the gas opening and waits while it fills up. It finishes filling up and she drives away, not even taking second thought of what is going to happen to the paint on the side of the car or tire. She dosen't even stop to try and whipe it off. Don't they teach anybody anything?