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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    not for long <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    anyway it should be easy for you to get a quick 20-30 points within the next few days, so i don't think it'll be a problem.
    i calculate myself to cross the 200 threshold by the wednesday update.
  • NScombatNScombat Join Date: 2003-11-17 Member: 23043Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Mar 22 2004, 05:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Mar 22 2004, 05:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ok, so basically we've been discussing who should and shouldn't join TSA in the irc channel, and here's who we have so far:

    Transmission (crisp)
    RAtPM (Salaman)
    Wheeee (Wheeee)
    Stakhanov (Boukharine? i think...i'm not 100% sure)
    comb@t (nscombat)
    Raydenuni (raydenuni) <- not registered on the forums
    Zigg (nsZigg)

    anyone else? We need high point-scorers and experienced players. Anyone know what siberian dingo is doing? 404notfound? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry but I'm already with an official alliance <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I can send some A$ to support you guys at some point.

    Next round - lets get organised.
  • SalamanSalaman Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9711Members
    Well, looks like I'm screwed. GG cheating paranoia

    I was flagged as a multi accounter and sent a message to the MultiAdmin explaining the situation:

    I wrote:
    Hi, I noticed I have been flagged with red status. The situation at my house is that we have a 3 computer LAN. Both my little brother(account:BuXe) and myself (Account:Salaman) play Astrowars(the third is our father's computer, who doesn't play),. We play fairly and do not play each others' accounts or even help each other out with transfers.

    Likely the fact we share the same IP has triggered the automatic tool used to detect cheaters. I hope you can clear up this mistake quickly, before I suffer an account lock/deletion.

    MultiAdmins response:
    Sorry, but you seem like an multi ti me.
    So you would stay banned.


    So it looks like I'm forced to deal with a semi-literate, presumptuous douche who happens to be in a position of power... I thought I left these kind of people behind when I stopped playing CS.

    I wrote back asking him to explain how he assumes such things and likely he will respond with something along the lines of "Because that's the same story everyone else gives". Well duh, looks like your anti-cheating solution is severely flawed. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, looks like I'm screwed. GG cheating paranoia

    I was flagged as a multi accounter and sent a message to the MultiAdmin explaining the situation:

    I wrote:
    Hi, I noticed I have been flagged with red status. The situation at my house is that we have a 3 computer LAN. Both my little brother(account:BuXe) and myself (Account:Salaman) play Astrowars(the third is our father's computer, who doesn't play),. We play fairly and do not play each others' accounts or even help each other out with transfers.

    Likely the fact we share the same IP has triggered the automatic tool used to detect cheaters. I hope you can clear up this mistake quickly, before I suffer an account lock/deletion.

    MultiAdmins response:
    Sorry, but you seem like an multi ti me.
    So you would stay banned.


    So it looks like I'm forced to deal with a semi-literate, presumptuous douche who happens to be in a position of power... I thought I left these kind of people behind when I stopped playing CS.

    I wrote back asking him to explain how he assumes such things and likely he will respond with something along the lines of "Because that's the same story everyone else gives". Well duh, looks like your anti-cheating solution is severely flawed.  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's whack. Read about the watz family who are in a similar situation, but they get away with it.

    <a href='http://www.astrowars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6202' target='_blank'>http://www.astrowars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6202</a>
  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    If people are willing to join, I'll be more then happy to start up NSA which will serve as another competetive alliance composed of the slower scorers (such as myself and others) that are in the great wastes (aka, AFK Regions). With two TSA alliances competing in the beta we have, not only a bigger chance of winning we also have more financial leverage and look somewhat more threatening (OMGZ! TEHY NEEDZORZ TWO ALLIANCZORZ TO COMPETEZORAZ?!).

    Also gives a chance for those that arent part of the TSA to compete on their level without "Dragging down" the TSA. Hence, the NSA will be formed as soon as I can gain enough levels to found it.
  • 2of12B0RG2of12B0RG Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11285Members
    edited March 2004
    Invite me. I have 157 points and some llama just sent another 30 destroyers at my planet where I previously owned 50 of his..
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Burncycle+Mar 23 2004, 03:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burncycle @ Mar 23 2004, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, looks like I'm screwed. GG cheating paranoia

    I was flagged as a multi accounter and sent a message to the MultiAdmin explaining the situation:

    I wrote:
    Hi, I noticed I have been flagged with red status. The situation at my house is that we have a 3 computer LAN. Both my little brother(account:BuXe) and myself (Account:Salaman) play Astrowars(the third is our father's computer, who doesn't play),. We play fairly and do not play each others' accounts or even help each other out with transfers.

    Likely the fact we share the same IP has triggered the automatic tool used to detect cheaters. I hope you can clear up this mistake quickly, before I suffer an account lock/deletion.

    MultiAdmins response:
    Sorry, but you seem like an multi ti me.
    So you would stay banned.


    So it looks like I'm forced to deal with a semi-literate, presumptuous douche who happens to be in a position of power... I thought I left these kind of people behind when I stopped playing CS.

    I wrote back asking him to explain how he assumes such things and likely he will respond with something along the lines of "Because that's the same story everyone else gives". Well duh, looks like your anti-cheating solution is severely flawed.  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's whack. Read about the watz family who are in a similar situation, but they get away with it.

    <a href='http://www.astrowars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6202' target='_blank'>http://www.astrowars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6202</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In fact, you can use that to prove that you're NOT multi-ing, or you can claim that he is discriminating against you against other players.

    Either way, the red multi has to go.
  • ParhelionParhelion Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16821Members, NS1 Playtester
    Had a probe about it on IRC (I use ParadoX on QuakeNet, btw):

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->[21:41] <ParadoX> hmm
    [21:41] <ParadoX> mate of mine and his brother play AW from the same computer, and were flagged for multi'ing
    [21:43] <ParadoX> apparently when he sent a message to a multiadmin (not sure who), he just got a reply saying "sorry, you seem like a multi to me, so you will stay banned"
    [21:45] <ParadoX> what should he do?
    [21:45] <[GA]Ravendark> i think thers nothing they can do
    [21:46] <ParadoX> that's not exactly fair
    [21:46] <ParadoX> all the time, they say on the forums: "oh just PM doozy and explain, you'll be fine"
    [21:46] <[GA]Ravendark> the multiadmin will have reasons to think he´s a multi
    [21:47] <[GA]Ravendark> same IP isn´t anything
    [21:47] <ParadoX> maybe
    [21:47] <ParadoX> mm...i'll talk to him again then
    [21:47] <[GA]Ravendark> identical login time, tranfering money etc.
    [21:48] <[GA]Ravendark> everything is watched if they´ll get a status
    [21:48] <ParadoX> hmm
    [21:48] <ParadoX> good point
    [21:48] <ParadoX> i'll ask
    [21:48] <[GA]Ravendark> they should try to explain if they´ve sent money to each other
    [21:48] <[GA]Ravendark> or log in the same time
    [21:48] <ParadoX> okay
    [21:49] <[GA]Ravendark> they both should do<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Well, try it...get your brother to send smallone a PM too. I guess Ravendark is right - you must have been transferring money between each other...still, explain it again to smallone and see what happens. Good luck.
  • TransmissionTransmission Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14456Members
    Send him the photos now, prehaps?
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    damn pepsi, thats weak

    well i should break 200 by wed-fri hopefully(depends on what time i take over this other guys planet), 5 of my populations are ready to boil over and i just got planet 10 and than me and my local allies will attack another system ( iwas supposed to attack this morning, but i for got to upgrade bio so its at level 3 right now) <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    beautiful aint it

    Planets at Alpha Albali (22/-45)
    ID Population Starbase Owner
    1 10 1 ns_Nuketheplace <----ns player
    2 8 0 NSPIRATE <-----me
    3 7 0 ns_Nuketheplace
    4 10 8 ns_Nuketheplace
    5 10 6 ns_Nuketheplace
    6 9 3 NSPIRATE
    7 10 4 NSPIRATE
    8 9 3 NSPIRATE
    9 9 0 NSPIRATE
    10 8 0 NSPIRATE
    11 8 6 NSPIRATE
    12 9 0 ns_Nuketheplace

    Planets at Alpha Praepes (20/-43)
    ID Population Starbase Owner
    1 10 14 LxX <----ally
    2 7 0 sylvain <----HIS ONLY PLANET, WITH LEVEL 7 POP, WTH
    3 6 4 NSPIRATE
    4 10 12 LxX <---ally
    5 7 7 NSPIRATE
    6 1 0 NSPIRATE
    7 10 12 LxX
    8 3 0 holi87 <---sieged
    9 5 0 holi87 <---sieged
    10 9 12 LxX <---ally
    11 7 3 LxX <---ally
    12 0 0 Free Planet
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    man thats such bs D: Also I have about a$4k of transfer to ditch asap please let me know if you can take it, wheeee suggested combat i dunno
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    u could dump to me =0, than we would be even nearly(you out of the hole, me almost back in)... or you could dump to mullet
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    oh, anyone want to get a trade agreement going in a few days

    and what do you need to spy on people, bio right?(intel reports)
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    Yeah I also could get a trade agreement up with someone....
  • NScombatNScombat Join Date: 2003-11-17 Member: 23043Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-ZiGGY^+Mar 23 2004, 10:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ Mar 23 2004, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> man thats such bs D: Also I have about a$4k of transfer to ditch asap please let me know if you can take it, wheeee suggested combat i dunno <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ziggy - that would be mighty nice but I cannot be a part of the new alliance. I already accepted an invite <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Truth be told I felt a bit pressured to join the other alliance - their members are all around me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    cheers
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    hey what ever happened tsakain, why is he not in our alliance, or is that comb@ts name
  • CabalCabal Join Date: 2003-01-24 Member: 12669Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    The MultiAdmin is biased in who they decide to ban. Anyone remember mattimax from last round? He said he had 10 accounts and thats how he ended up in first place. He wasnt banned ... they only closed the other accounts.

    <!--QuoteBegin-"Ziggy^"+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ("Ziggy^")</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Also I have about a$4k of transfer to ditch asap please let me know if you can take it, wheeee suggested combat i dunno<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Anyway - if you guys have money you dont know what to do with, send it to me so it'll gain interest. This way, my trade balance would be negative and also, it'll gain about a quater of its value in about a week. Also, if anyone needs extra funds for assistance, they could just PM me and I could get them some cash without the transfer fees (because of the negative trade balance). But of course, that'll only work if I'm receiving extra funds from many players. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I say this since I dont know of anyone else who went banker and I want to have a purpose! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    nscombat is right by me, hes not bad either
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    oh, didnt see previous post, hes in an alliance... he backed out on us ns guys, and we are right by him.. *crys* <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    yeah, we definitely could have used both of them. Rage, send multiadmin the pics that you took, and post on the forums. Also pm AR to see if he'll intervene.
  • NScombatNScombat Join Date: 2003-11-17 Member: 23043Members, Constellation
    <crys> I feel like I let you guys down <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> I never realised you could only join one alliance, I know for next time.

    I may not be able to join the official alliance but ISA will support both NS and TSA alliances.
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    combat just so you know i am only two systems away from you
  • SalamanSalaman Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9711Members
    Well, I still have no second reply from the guy. I explained to him in a second message to check the logs or whatever, as my brother never made any transfers, or recieved any, and the only transfer I've made was the 2,300 to ziggy to start up the alliance. As for logging in at the same time...We both get home at the same time and check our accounts, so perhaps that may have been something, though we may never know.

    I'll send pictures I suppose. The grammatical atrocity I recieved from him last time leads me to think MultiAdmin likely didn't comprehend half of my written defense and just arbitrarily decided to not bother investigating and assume I cheat.

    I'll definately start a forum post though. I knew Mattimax had cheated and openly admitted to it, but wasn't aware they actually let him keep playing. An extreme double standard if there ever was one. I don't think it will do much good though. The multiadmin also is forum admin and will likely use his repressive powers and lock/delete the post as soon as he sees it =\ .
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    =\

    HEY LETS ALL POST ON HIS BEHALF, GET ALL OF US NS GUYS, AND GIVE HIM A LINK TO OUR PAGE...

    THAT IS A HELL OF ALOT MORE PROOF THAN OTHER PEOPLE GIVE
  • SalamanSalaman Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9711Members
    If you guys have already posted in the past, that's fine. However if you don't have any posts then I'd ask you to refrain from doing so, as it would look suspicious for people with only 1 post to be coming on to support me.

    The AW site looks to have gone back down again...so I guess I'll have to hold off on relating this ugly issue to the AW community. Guess I'll take and upload those pictures.
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    LOL AW servers are going unstable....

    anyway, I have a question : Which science is most worth researching? I can't put my finger on it but it seems like almost everyone goes Physics and Social
  • SalamanSalaman Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9711Members
    I'd say Energy would be important too. A fast fleet can hit an enemy between logins, or let you defend your own planets quickly if you have an incoming force that was launched while you were asleep <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • StakhanovStakhanov Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14448Members
    Biology helps much when you have 6 levels higher than most people...

    Economy gives you a trade agreement bonus , if you have the highest level of all. Whenever I lose my bonus I switch back to this science.
  • NScombatNScombat Join Date: 2003-11-17 Member: 23043Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-dirtygabbsnevada+Mar 23 2004, 04:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dirtygabbsnevada @ Mar 23 2004, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> combat just so you know i am only two systems away from you <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I forget the name that you are playing under > what system is that?

    I recall you are a few clicks to my left. You should be able to see Arconius and Nukeshome who I am allied with. We are currently attacking JEDIDuck
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    im NSPIRATE, ill join ya

    im attacking a guy 4 systems away from you at alpha anich

    *edit*

    =\ server down, and jedi duck was in my area last beta i believe
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