First Album?
Cereal_KillR
Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Who made it?</div> Well, I just bought an iPod (yes I did <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->) and I've been looking around, and showed it to my dad. My dad loves to listen to classical music, and I said that an iPod could be nice for him since he travels a lot. So I showed the iPod to him, and showed how easy it was to filter through album, artist, composer, etc.
He made the remark there's no "lead instrument" or "orchestra size" filters (I didn't notice)
Which made me think, well why did we change from classical music to the type of music we have today? Composers used to make a few numbers of music pieces, now groups get out albums every year or so, each having a dozen tracks of 4 or so minutes There used to be full symphonys lasting dozens of minutes, and operas lasting whole hours (closer to a concert actually, but still an unique work) What made the change of form? Sure, there's change of taste that changed the style, but why the form? We could be having metal, rock or pop symphonies or operas, with full orchestras of electrical guitars and such (not knowing how good that would sound, of course)
So, basically, who invented the album form and single songs?
He made the remark there's no "lead instrument" or "orchestra size" filters (I didn't notice)
Which made me think, well why did we change from classical music to the type of music we have today? Composers used to make a few numbers of music pieces, now groups get out albums every year or so, each having a dozen tracks of 4 or so minutes There used to be full symphonys lasting dozens of minutes, and operas lasting whole hours (closer to a concert actually, but still an unique work) What made the change of form? Sure, there's change of taste that changed the style, but why the form? We could be having metal, rock or pop symphonies or operas, with full orchestras of electrical guitars and such (not knowing how good that would sound, of course)
So, basically, who invented the album form and single songs?
Comments
"Clasical" is still being composed (There is a new name, but it is in a similar styles to what we refer to as clasical)
Rock operas DO Exist (Tommy, "Josef and the Amasing Technicolour Dreamcoat") and they ARE cool.
As for when did 'albums' come into play....
I don't know WHEN but I can help you with contributing factors:
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IF I am wrong, or if any one can correct me please do
1) Radio: With the previlance of Radio came the avaliability of music. No longer did you have to go to a concert hall to listen to what ever you wanted. Now that peopel could listen to music in their own homes the opera became not so viable (you can't boradcast an opera every night simply b/c that wont get you themost # of listeners b/c people wont stay tuned for all of that). Instead of Operas and long pieces things started shifting over to shorter pieces, untill today where a song must be under 3 mins (or sometihng) To be played on almost any sation.
2) Jazz/Rock:
Music progresses and changes over time. With the popularity of Jazz (and then rock, wich is truly the chilid of Jazz) we again see movement away from long symphony style things. Also with Jazz (and even more so with rock) we now have a format that fits the short song that can be played on the radio (ofcourse Jazz can be much longer, and many poeple prefer it that way).
Ther are ALOT of other facotrs, and all of these things are of course blended to gether and each one caused all the others in some way sahape and form (thats the way history is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
Oh and they're a brilliant rock band to boot.
cos ... + justice for all is 9 mins, but i think we're talking on a different scale here
[EDIT:] iPods rock, and so do firewire cables, they need to replace USB now, you'll never accept slow transfer ever again
edit: that's why they make shortened radio versions sometimes