The Passion Of The Christ
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<div class="IPBDescription">My...(spoilers, much talking)</div> The Movie...its....its good. I mean, good, but...it makes you so sad...even though you see him again...it just....see it. If you have, talk here.
Only thing I noticed that wasn't correct(I was surprised they even put in the Lance of Longinus...I thought they'd leave it out) was the nails in the hands...it was in fact in the wrist, because before, all the way to your elbow was the hands(before it became the forearm). Not to mention, the hands couldn't hold someone up.
Other than that, just the fact that he died incorrectly...he was supposed to die of suffocation(which is how they died on the cross). Being you can't breathe when hanging from your arms, it messes up your lungs, so you gotta pull up. If you can't, get to tired, you eventually suffocate.
But it was...incredible for me...you guys?
Only thing I noticed that wasn't correct(I was surprised they even put in the Lance of Longinus...I thought they'd leave it out) was the nails in the hands...it was in fact in the wrist, because before, all the way to your elbow was the hands(before it became the forearm). Not to mention, the hands couldn't hold someone up.
Other than that, just the fact that he died incorrectly...he was supposed to die of suffocation(which is how they died on the cross). Being you can't breathe when hanging from your arms, it messes up your lungs, so you gotta pull up. If you can't, get to tired, you eventually suffocate.
But it was...incredible for me...you guys?
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My friend said the movie was "speachless". I had a sense a lot of people are afraid of dieing even my friend said so. For past years I was too afraid of it but I thought and thought and came up with my own little things. But I stand strong with one quote.
"Death is not sad; the sad thing is that most people don't really live at all." -Socrates (Not the one you know)
Some people were even crying or atleast tearing, I honestly saw nothing to be sad about. I dunno if this man is real why be sad supposivly thanks to him all your sins are forgiving cause of his death. I just dont get people sometimes :/
That's supposedly what they do to every person who is crucified. Correct me if im wrong.
My friend said the movie was "speachless". I had a sense a lot of people are afraid of dieing even my friend said so. For past years I was too afraid of it but I thought and thought and came up with my own little things. But I stand strong with one quote.
"Death is not sad; the sad thing is that most people don't really live at all." -Socrates (Not the one you know)
Some people were even crying or atleast tearing, I honestly saw nothing to be sad about. I dunno if this man is real why be sad supposivly thanks to him all your sins are forgiving cause of his death. I just dont get people sometimes :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
... I didn't cry but it was very emotional for me... perhaps because I am a christian. ... Yeah, it was fantastic... very moving for me... brought words to life... anyway... *refuses to start religious post, because those only end in flame wars <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> *
However, my personal opinion is if you aren't open to the idea of Christ dying for your sins or already a Christian, you might as well not see it, since it doesn't explain anything but his suffering and a quick shot of his return to life.
~ DarkATi
That's supposedly what they do to every person who is crucified. Correct me if im wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
To make sure they're dead, not to kill them. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
~ DarkATi
My friend said the movie was "speachless". I had a sense a lot of people are afraid of dieing even my friend said so. For past years I was too afraid of it but I thought and thought and came up with my own little things. But I stand strong with one quote.
"Death is not sad; the sad thing is that most people don't really live at all." -Socrates (Not the one you know)
Some people were even crying or atleast tearing, I honestly saw nothing to be sad about. I dunno if this man is real why be sad supposivly thanks to him all your sins are forgiving cause of his death. I just dont get people sometimes :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because he died because of our sins, so his blood will always be on our hands. Kind of like a relative of yours die because of something you did. I almost cried twice, something I haven't done since that russian roulette scene in The Deer Hunter.
It was a brutal movie, its easy to read the Bible and think this couldnt have been as painful as it seemed, but to see pieces of flesh ripped off and watch as the nails are hammered into his hands it gives you a new respect for what he went through. It also didn't spoonfeed you the story, you had to pay attention, and there were little tidbits that you will catch if you've read the Biblical account.
Only issue I have:
The critics panning it for being too violent. The exact same critics who raved about Kill Bill. It dosen't matter if you think its too violent or not, this is a very close depiction of what actually happened, the level of violence wasnt a choice of Gibsons as it was Tarentino's. The script had already been written in the Bible, Gibson just translated it into visual form.
You're probably thinking of this passage in John 19, 32-34 : "The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other. But when they game to Jesus and found that he was already dead, they did not break his legs. Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water". (NIV)
Some details about crucifiction (Roman historical context) to help that passage make sense:
Death by crucifiction usually meant asphixiation as the weight of the body pulls the torso down, moving the arms up and back and putting pressure on the diaphram; this makes it difficult to pull air into the lungs. Eventually the criminal wouldn't be able to keep up the extra effort required to breathe. It was a really nasty way to go.
By breaking each man's legs, the soldiers would have been speeding up their deaths -- the men wouldn't be able to push upward with their legs to make it temporarily easier to breathe.
According to Roman law, it was the soldiers' duty to make sure crucified criminals were dead--if somebody survived a crucifiction, the Roman guards who was supposed to watch over their execution were held responsible and punishments were severe. Like DarkATi said, the spear through the side was a way to make sure he was dead.
The "water" that came from the wound might have been pericardial fluid, which is a clear liquid contained in a sack surrounding the heart.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I can never understand why in every book/movie, Jesus is portrayed by a clean looking white man....If you think realisticly, wouldn't he be muslim and pretty much the exact opposite of what we "see" him as today?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Arab/Jewish in appearance, definitely-- but Islam wasn't founded until long after he died. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
See, as said, Jesus died for you and me, blah blah blah.
Thing is, Duo, or anyone else- COULD you ever go through that? Even those who weren't christian that saw it thought they could never go through it, and understood the...monumental pain and suffering he went through. I worship him myself because I have seen what God can do to/for people. It...makes me happy.
For one, Jesus had no religion. Jesus is said to be the son of God/ God himself. Who would he worship?
Second, Islam was founded a couple hundred years after the life and death of Jesus, so there wouldn't even be any Muslims at all when he was alive.
Given the region where he was born, raised, and preached, many historians think Jesus would have had an olive complexion. The fact that he's portrayed so often as a white man is most likely because we (caucasians) held ourselves superior to others back when the first paintings and whatnot were made, and we couldn't bear to think that the Lord could possibly be something other than white. I guess it just stuck.
For one, Jesus had no religion. Jesus is said to be the son of God/ God himself. Who would he worship?
Second, Islam was founded a couple hundred years after the life and death of Jesus, so there wouldn't even be any Muslims at all when he was alive.
Given the region where he was born, raised, and preached, many historians think Jesus would have had an olive complexion. The fact that he's portrayed so often as a white man is most likely because we (caucasians) held ourselves superior to others back when the first paintings and whatnot were made, and we couldn't bear to think that the Lord could possibly be something other than white. I guess it just stuck. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, there were no muslims during Jesus' time. Islam didn't begin until Muhammad saw God, and founded the religion.
I'm also pretty sure Jesus was Jewish (although lots of Christians dispute it, and like to think he had no religion, because...of a couple reasons). Jesus wasn't Chrisitan...if for some reason someone thinks that.
He would have worshipped God...as he tried to get others to believe.
He would have worshipped God...as he tried to get others to believe. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
There are a few passages where Jesus actually places himself below god, thus suggesting that.
He would have worshipped God...as he tried to get others to believe. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There are a few passages where Jesus actually places himself below god, thus suggesting that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wait, it just dawned on me that AllUrHiveRBelong2Us said something that was not off the wall wacky and actually had some structure to it.....
<-- checks to see if the Apocolypse is happening outside
Jesus wasn't black, or white, he was likely arabic with short curley hair and a rounder face. The white long haired, tall, thin version of Jesus is an image likely conceived in the dark ages.
Now Moses, being that he was born in Africa, was most likely black.
Jesus wasn't black, or white, he was likely arabic with short curley hair and a rounder face. The white long haired, tall, thin version of Jesus is an image likely conceived in the dark ages.
Now Moses, being that he was born in Africa, was most likely black. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Correct me if I'm wrong, but was moses concieved by a pair of jews living in Egypt? How does that make him "most likely black"?
<span style='color:orange'><span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>edited to use more politically correct racial term</span></span>
Jesus wasn't black, or white, he was likely arabic with short curley hair and a rounder face. The white long haired, tall, thin version of Jesus is an image likely conceived in the dark ages.
Now Moses, being that he was born in Africa, was most likely black. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Moses was born in Egypt (...which, yes, is in Africa), but last time I checked they looked more middle eastern than black. Jesus was also probably middle eastern; although, there were also lots of romans and stuff there, and we all know they're not based in Mesopotamia.
I still vote everyone from the bible is middle eastern though.
Jesus wasn't black, or white, he was likely arabic with short curley hair and a rounder face. The white long haired, tall, thin version of Jesus is an image likely conceived in the dark ages.
Now Moses, being that he was born in Africa, was most likely black. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Moses was born in Egypt (...which, yes, is in Africa), but last time I checked they looked more middle eastern than black. Jesus was also probably middle eastern; although, there were also lots of romans and stuff there, and we all know they're not based in Mesopotamia.
I still vote everyone from the bible is middle eastern though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Judas was definatly Canadian though.
The Roman who stabbed him was named Longinus, thus 'Lance of Longinus'
Spoiler: Jesus dies.
The actor who played Jesus Christ his initials are J.C
On the set he got struck by lightning twice and survived.
He is also 33.
6months before shooting the film, a random man walked up to him on the street and said he would be playing the role of Jesus soon.
Scared yet?