My Idea For A Knife Replacement

Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
edited February 2004 in Artwork Forum
<div class="IPBDescription">This is a MULTI-STEP THING</div> Ok, here is my idea for a knife replacement:

ROUGH DRAFT ONE (I got bored and colored it 0o")

The second draft is done... I just need to go over the lines to let the scanner pick em up (stupid thing... ><")
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  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members
    Handle needs to go on a diet, the serrated section is too long, and that is one wierd curve at the end you got there, man. O.o
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  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Revolver+Feb 27 2004, 11:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Revolver @ Feb 27 2004, 11:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Handle needs to go on a diet, the serrated section is too long, and that is one wierd curve at the end you got there, man. O.o <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Secinded. Especialy that handle....looks VERY WEIRD.
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  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-RaVe+Feb 28 2004, 02:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Feb 28 2004, 02:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Revolver+Feb 27 2004, 11:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Revolver @ Feb 27 2004, 11:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Handle needs to go on a diet, the serrated section is too long, and that is one wierd curve at the end you got there, man. O.o <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Secinded. Especialy that handle....looks VERY WEIRD. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Holy s***. Someone agreed with <i>me</i>? I'm putting that on a plaque man. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> The second model has a better handle

    Beta Two!
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  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    I thought that first one, save for the ghetto-bootehed handle, looked pretty cool. Hope somone models this.
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  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members
    Noo much of a serrated blade. That' doesn't make sense, even fora utility knife.
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    K then, should I shorten the serrations, or simply remove em?

    In case you didn't know, the gap and crossmembers in the middle of the knife is supposed to be just that, a gap and crossbeams.

    This is to help make it lighter, as, would this particular knife be solid, it'd weigh ~12 pounds.

    My main concern for model #2 is the shape of the handle... does a Pistol Grip handle work on a knife?
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  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jean Luc Picard+Feb 29 2004, 03:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jean Luc Picard @ Feb 29 2004, 03:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> K then, should I shorten the serrations, or simply remove em?

    In case you didn't know, the gap and crossmembers in the middle of the knife is supposed to be just that, a gap and crossbeams.

    This is to help make it lighter, as, would this particular knife be solid, it'd weigh ~12 pounds.

    My main concern for model #2 is the shape of the handle... does a Pistol Grip handle work on a knife? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just half it. That'd make it look right imho. And a pistol grip...hm...I bet it's been done before, although I can't honestly say whether it'd work or not.
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    The reason I made the serations so long is because this is meant to be a silent kill knife:

    The marine would sneak up behind his opponent, and *SHINK* slice through his trachea/neck with the serrated blade <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> Course... this IS NS and you can't really sneak up on anything as a marine XD
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  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    afaik, serrated blades doesn't do much save for making the knife 'act' sharper since it grabs onto the meat and rips it a little. if you wanted to slit a persons throat you should just have a good sharp knife - also a nonserrated blade symbolises more precision imho...
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    Harry, that is a common misconception believe it or not.

    A serated blade has a MUCH greater chance of penetrating the tough sinew, muscell, and tendons in the neck, THEN also penetrating the Trachea the whole way through, also cutting the (vascular???) artery on the way through, causing the person to "drown" in their own blood as well as aphyxinate.

    True, a VERY sharp blade can do it, but it takes a LOT more force pulling backwards to penetrate the tough stuff first. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    where do you people get this information <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <span style='color:gray'>*hides*</span>
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  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members
    Hm...I dunno...I say we do a few experiments to find out for ourselves.

    I volunteer Kouji as the guinea pig.
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> My family's got a Military history (per say)

    My dad was British SS

    My Grandfather was in WW2 as a B-17 gunner

    My Grandmother was a nurse in WW2, so she's seen some... odd... things


    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • MeanMrMustardMeanMrMustard Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23456Members
    My dad fought in WWF Royal Rumble, twice.

    My grandad Created the BIC pen.

    And my nana was really Little Richard.

    Sorry for my sillyness <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->







    (my nana)
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Dear god help us all! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Model # 3 is nearly done! I'll have it scanned in and everything tomorrow!
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    Redraw 3! Beta 3! WEWT! WEWT FOR SOME ACTUAL DETAIL!
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  • GolathGolath Join Date: 2003-05-20 Member: 16532Members
    Well i think if you are going for 'art' instead of a concept design, you should be less symetrical. Use alot more freehand and learn not to depend on the ruler and compass. Just making the lines straighter or making the dots evenly spaced out, does NOT make an artistic design. Art should come from the heart, not symetrey. I think if you want to use a ruler and a compass, you should be doing tech drawing. Which is basically building schematics and drawing objects exactly to scale.
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    edited March 2004
    Common misconception nothing. Almost no actual combat knife (note: <b>combat</b> knife, not survival knife) has serrations. They 'catch' as you noted, which makes the cut much more difficult.

    Seriously, try it. Take some <b>raw</b> steak. First, try to cut through it with a wood saw, or even a bread or steak knife. Next, get a nice fresh Hibben.
    You'll notice that the sharp, nonserrated knife cuts through VERY easily, regardless of if you cut with or across the lay.
    The 'steak' knife just ends up dragging the meat along, making superficial cuts.

    And these are consumer-grade knives... a number of British commando blades can cut better than halfway through a melon under their own weight and a gentle underhand toss.
    (edit) Er... to be clear, that's with the edge of the blade, not the point, laying into the top of the melon and slicing downward. Knife stayed pretty much horizontal throughout. Very intimidating. Moreso when the demonstrator then took the knife and gently balanced it on its point, and it just 'fell'.. burying itself seemingly without effort into the melon to the hilt. (/edit)
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    0o" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> True it'll cut most things better

    You ever tried cutting a steak with a smooth-blade knife? That sinew is some tough **** to get through

    You need to know how to use it, but for quick, easy, silent kills, a serated knife cuts faster (some pressure and a swift *SHHLLLIIITT*
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