Can Wireless Disrupt Gameplay?

MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
edited February 2004 in Tech Support
<div class="IPBDescription">Severe and regular latency spikes</div> - Ai ~2.5GHZ Pentium 4 w/ HT tech
- ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Sound Blaster-made Sound card
- ~512 MB RAM
- Win XP
- OpenGL 1024x768 32 Bit mode
- EAX is off
- Using Half-Life client
- Using Steam
- NS V3.X Beta 3

- Severe latency spikes occuring at seemingly random times causing either one of the following:
1: Skip-back to a previous location -- IE: Run forward ~4 meters and end up ~2 meters from where i was when i skipped-back
2: Freeze-game-in-place seeming to be link-dead, and then "revive" itself, often with me dead from a marine that turned the corner, shot me, and thus killed me while i was "link-dead". It's as if my screen has frozen the image onto the screen, and then refreshes that image normally after ~4 seconds.

I am on my second computer in a wireless network of 2 computers. There is a wireless connection between the computer i am on now (Comp2, lets call it) and the computer connected to the internet (Comp1) Obviously, to play NS or even be here to ask this question there <b>is</b> a shared wireless connection between Comp1 and Comp2. I have a DSL connection from Telus. If you were to look at a top-down flow-chart of my network you would see:

1 ISP
(>Direct Connection Here<)
2 DSL Modem
(>Direct Connection Here<)
3 Wireless Network ( -> Wireless Connection Here -> ) 5 Comp2
(>Direct Connection Here<)
4 Comp1

The Wireless Network (Router?) is made by Mirco$oft, FYI, too. (As well, a Mirco$oft Wireless Keyboard and Micro$oft Wireless Mouse)


Can anyone help me?

Comments

  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    Well I'd have to say I doubt the wireless signals intefere with your gameplay, but just the other day I found out my wireless mouse was causing backgroung noise in my headphone... so i don't know what to think! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    edited February 2004
    Everyone's mouse causes noise in their headphones. My regualr PS/2 ball corded mouse did, as did my new wired optical. Anywho, the one with the direct connection should be connected through the router, not directly to the modem, just so you know. If you get lag, the computer with the direct connection may be using all the bandwidth. If you're the only one online and it keeps happening, I don't know what to say... :\
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    edited February 2004
    turning off comp1 for fear that it consumes bandwidth is not the cause. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    i'll try reversing some cables between the router and the DSL modem... and hope i dont fry anything in the process.

    [edit - looks like nothing happened to increase performance. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> ]
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    I read that once someone got a satellite broadband connection because they lived in a remote place. It was very fast but poor for gaming because it sent the data in large packets and not a constant stream. The same thing <i>might</i> be happening with your wireless router.
  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    Wow... so i'm not alone... any guesses why this happens (mouse & headphones)?
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BigMadSteve+Feb 28 2004, 04:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigMadSteve @ Feb 28 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I read that once someone got a satellite broadband connection because they lived in a remote place. It was very fast but poor for gaming because it sent the data in large packets and not a constant stream. The same thing <i>might</i> be happening with your wireless router. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If this is true (which it probably is) how can i reduce packet size or flow to a continual stream?

    I'm on Comp1 when i'm posting this, and i seem to have no problem in opening sites quickly. (Comp2 is currently defragmenting. 33% fragmentation is NOT good... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Would anyone be making a call when these spikes happen? At my home, my parents have a 54 MBps wireless router that I can use in my room. My connection kept getting cut off however, whenever anyone made a call. Could that be your problem?
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    no one called or received a call while i play my games.

    afew more variables laid down:
    - There is (obviously) a wall inbetween my wireless connection on comp2 and the router. In fact, i would say ~3 walls, because im in a lower room against a wall.

    - The transmit/receive device for comp2 is sitting ontop of the location of the power supply (comp2 is a tower. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) Is this a bad thing?

    - There is a wireless GameCube controler sometimes used by my brother.

    - The router and DSL modem are next to eachother

    - The router (and thus the modem as well) are near a window. Could it be picking up background interferance? Possibly picking up other nearby wireless transmissions? Aliens? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+Feb 29 2004, 02:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Feb 29 2004, 02:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> afew more variables laid down:
    - There is (obviously) a wall inbetween my wireless connection on comp2 and the router. In fact, i would say ~3 walls, because im in a lower room against a wall.

    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Bingo. I think that would be it. Just get a 'regular' router and run a wire from it to your computer. You can staple it to the wall like any other wire (eg telephone). The router I use is two rooms away and the cable goes under the carpet next to the wall for most of its length. It's a pretty quick job tbh.
  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    Hey steve, you're Hitman? How's the [On|E] Server coming along, I can't seem to find it on Steam. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BigMadSteve+Feb 29 2004, 04:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigMadSteve @ Feb 29 2004, 04:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just get a 'regular' router and run a wire from it to your computer. You can staple it to the wall like any other wire (eg telephone). The router I use is two rooms away and the cable goes under the carpet next to the wall for most of its length. It's a pretty quick job tbh. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    (Me ->) <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo--> (<- Dude at store who said wireless is good for gaming)
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+Feb 29 2004, 11:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Feb 29 2004, 11:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BigMadSteve+Feb 29 2004, 04:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigMadSteve @ Feb 29 2004, 04:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just get a 'regular' router and run a wire from it to your computer. You can staple it to the wall like any other wire (eg telephone). The router I use is two rooms away and the cable goes under the carpet next to the wall for most of its length. It's a pretty quick job tbh. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    (Me ->) <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo--> (<- Dude at store who said wireless is good for gaming) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Saying that I could be wrong. Just theory. My mobile phone, for example, gets absolutely zero reception in here but if I go outside the window I get full reception.


    @nthony, I can find our server without any problems. Here is the IP address anyway:

    216.58.238.189:27050
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    Wireless b? a? g? (g is better for gaming)

    Is there a microwave in use nearby? Baby monitor? Cordless Phone?
  • DoctaBuDoctaBu Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27072Members
    Ugh you guys. If you have a good connection (or very good) where it says your signal strength, that should be fine. I'm actually getting random lag spikes (where the game just stops for like a few seconds).

    I don't know what it is, but wireless is designed to cover a whole house. I have it at my house, and we have 5 laptops flying around the house, and even in the very back of the backyard we could play a game, especially if you have 802.11g.

    Try having someone else host it...
  • Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
    wired connections are better for games.
    They ping faster than wireless. I used to use a wireless mouse for CS. and i notice it had like a 100...lag when I clicked.
    if its like that. I could only asume wireless is similar.
    so yes, go back to the store and <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    when you want to know about gaming stuff, ask your local gaming lan center.
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