Oscars

Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Anyone watch movies?</div> Yeah Lord of the Rings cleaned up. Even if you like the films you have to admit that they didn't deserve that many oscars. I hate it when the academy goes and picks one movie to dominate the year and gives out the 'small' oscars to the big winner to pad the stats. That DVD cover looks so much better with "Winner of 48 academy awards" instead of just "Academy Awards picture of the year 2003". Best quote from foreign film winner from Canada - "I'm so glad that Lord of the Rings didn't qualify for this category". Also humorous was when they announced that this was Canada's first Oscar, third nomination. I don't want to do the research but I'm pretty sure a ton of Canadians have won Oscars. I know they were talking about the foreign film award in particular, but it sounded funny none the less.
On the up side, Will Farrell and Jack Black performed, and were predictably hilarious. Same for Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara performing their nominated song from A Mighty Wind.
Bill Murray lost to Sean Penn for best actor which hurt (although I hear Penn was very good in Mystic River), but at least Sophia won for screenplay (I love Lost in Translation).
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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    edited March 2004
    bill murray should have won; sean penn was good in mystic river but the movie was kinda plain and straightforward, while lost in translation was nice and dynamic and required more acting skill...

    I'm very glad charlize theron won -- I just saw that movie and I'm absolutely enamored with it...
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dr_Shaggy+Mar 1 2004, 03:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Mar 1 2004, 03:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lord of the Rings... didn't deserve that many oscars. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Congratulations, you now totally suck, in every possible way.
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    I wanted Bill Murray to win just so I could here his speech lol. Good man.


    I'm happy that LOTR got 11 awards, they really did deserve it. Jack black and will farrel's song was hillarious....along with some of billie crystals coments .

    I liked this years acadamy awards <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • the_t00lethe_t00le Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10466Members
    This years was great, as opposed to the 2002 Oscars where Gangs Of New York was given the royal stiff (10 Nominations and not one win, damn you to hell Chicago [Though "Mr. Celafame" {sp?} was a great song]).

    /rant
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-the_t00le!+Mar 1 2004, 01:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the_t00le! @ Mar 1 2004, 01:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This years was great, as opposed to the 2002 Oscars where Gangs Of New York was given the royal stiff (10 Nominations and not one win, damn you to hell Chicago [Though "Mr. Celafame" {sp?} was a great song]).

    /rant <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Couldn't agree more.
  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    they arent on uk tv till tonight i think <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    LoTR deserved those Oscars. End of story.
  • JHunzJHunz Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8815Members, Constellation
    If <i>Titanic</i> can get 11 Oscars, Return of the King certainly deserved to tie that.
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    <a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/2879857.stm' target='_blank'>Best Acceptance Speech Evar!</a>
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    edited March 2004
    wow, thats great venmoch, michael moore is full of ****. [edit no offense venmoch, its not a personal thing, i just dislike MM]

    <a href='http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html' target='_blank'>http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html</a> heres one

    also, the best acceptance speech is actually gollem's

    hahaah
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    Billy Crystal is humanity's scourge.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Mar 1 2004, 06:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Mar 1 2004, 06:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/2879857.stm' target='_blank'>Best Acceptance Speech Evar!</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry... but stupid heads don't qualify for best acceptance speeches <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    I swear I've never seen anyone antagonise people so much as Michael Moore. If you don't like him, no-one is forcing you to listen to him. Personally I love the bloke, which will only serve to highten the hatred many of you already feel for me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • JragonJragon Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26820Members
    oscars is so phony i bet they just give the prize to the girl witht he biggest......teeth.....
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    I personally find Mr Moore one of the best political writers.

    Bear in mind I am from the Satire Capital of the World.


    <a href='http://www.2dtv.co.uk/sounds/Bush_Blow_Up_Whitehouse.wav' target='_blank'>A good example being this......</a>
    (Props to 2DTV)
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I swear I've never seen anyone antagonise people so much as Michael Moore. If you don't like him, no-one is forcing you to listen to him. Personally I love the bloke, which will only serve to highten the hatred many of you already feel for me<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I have no idea what you were trying to say there. I think I understand what you mean, but I have no idea what you said. Most people hate Michael Moore because he likes to pose a bunch of questions and then jump on to another topic while everyone else is trying to come up with answers. That and the fact that he seems to have never actually bathed in his lifetime. Seriously though, bowling for columbine was just childish, I think you would get very similar results if Bill O'Reilly were to do jackass. It's just an arrogant guy running around making fun of stupid people and pulling politically correct left wing pranks for an hour, can't you see the entertainment value is stunning?
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Hah, Moore. Moore is such a crybaby. Didn't you hear, the whole "boo"ing thing was a consipracy! You see, people clapped, he claims, but someone made it sound like booing!
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Mar 1 2004, 08:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Mar 1 2004, 08:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dr_Shaggy+Mar 1 2004, 03:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Mar 1 2004, 03:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lord of the Rings... didn't deserve that many oscars. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Congratulations, you now totally suck, in every possible way. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Whats that supposed to mean? They gave the damn editor an Oscar! The movie was like 3 and a half hours long, almost everyone I know that saw it thought it was too long. The editor didn't do anything! I'm not saying that the trilogy wasn't an impressive undertaking, I do think that they deserved to win Oscars, just not that many. Did you even watch any of the other nominated movies?
  • Impy_The_LerkImpy_The_Lerk Join Date: 2003-05-24 Member: 16652Banned
  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    My complaint is that the Oscars were way too predictable this year. Here's my rundown.

    <b>Best Visual Effects:</b> LotR won. I totally agree with this. There were some spectacular effects in that movie.

    <b>Original Song:</b> "Into The West" from LotR won. I didn't think it should have won. "You Will Be My Ain True Love" was superior.

    <b>Best Original Score:</b> LotR won, but Cold Mountain should have taken it.

    <b>Best Animated Feature Film:</b> Finding Nemo won. Duh, it's not like Brother Bear was going to win. It was pretty much the Disney pity nomination.

    <b>Best Original Screenplay:</b> "Lost in Translation" won. I think this was sort of the consolation prize for Sofia Coppola. She was nominated for Best Director, but everybody knew that was going to Peter Jackson.

    <b>Best Supporting Actress:</b> Renee Zellweger for Cold Mountain. She deserved the Oscar. Shohreh Aghdashloo was great in House of Sand and Fog, but Renee was just slightly better.

    <b>Best Actress:</b> Charlize Theron for Monster. I was disappointed. This was way too predictable and not really deserved in my opinion. I thought that it should have gone to Keisha Castle-Hughes for Whale Rider. Somebody who's that young giving that great of a performance really deserves the Oscar.

    <b>Best Supporting Actor:</b> Tim Robbins for Mystic River. I think that Mystic River got more props than it had really earned. It was a good movie, but not the greatest. I really, really, really thought that Ken Watanabe should have gotten it for The Last Samurai. He really stole the show from Tom Cruise.

    <b>Best Actor:</b> Sean Penn for Mystic River. It wasn't much of a stretch for him. A middle-aged, socially maladjusted man? It's kind of like giving a tree a medal for producing oxygen. Johnny Depp was a better choice, but Bill Murray surpassed both of them for Lost in Translation.

    <b>Best Director:</b> Peter Jackson for LotR. We all knew he was going to win, since he didn't get anything for Fellowship or Two Towers. I kinda wanted Sofia Coppola to win.

    <b>Best Picture:</b> LotR. I think that LotR was awarded the Oscars for the trilogy, rather than RotK specifically. We all saw it coming, although Lost in Translation would have been a good choice also.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    Meh, perhaps it was because I had read the book but I found The King returns more of the same as I have seen in the TT. They shoouldnt have won all those prices I agree...
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    The only award for LotR that I really disagree with strongly enough to mention was original song. IMO Peter Jackson worked amazingly hard for these movies.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    Finch put it all almost perfectly... :>
  • xioutlawixxioutlawix Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7118Members, Constellation
    The only oscar awarded return of the king I can disagree with is the song nomination. Other than that, heh, if you disagree with the nominations for best art direction, best costume, best visual effects, makeup, sound mixing, original score, editing, and adapted screenplay, you are a fool.

    I see a lot of people on here mentioning as well, "Oh, ____ didn't deserve the acting oscar because the movie wasn't that great." Or things to that effect. One thing doesn't relate to the other, just because you don't like the movie doesn't reflect on that person's ability to act in the movie.
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    Yeah great post Finch. I knew I'd get the LorR zealots by posting this but I was hoping for a post like yours. I holeheartedly agree with your take on best actor, although I haven't seen Mystic River, regardless of how good Penn was, I've seen him play that role before. I also agree on Depp, since I saw Pirates I've been thinking of a way they could've changed it to completely remove the other male lead (dude from LotR) because he was just so outshined by Depp. Again, I loved Murray's performance in Lost, and many others hes done lately. His work in the Wes Anderson flicks is great, I've heard he could've been nominated for his work in Rushmore and I wouldn't argue with that. In Lost, he's not that joking funnyman, somehow he's funny without having to make the gags.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    i disagree.

    LoTR: RoTK deserved every award it got. those people worked hard, <i>DAMN</i> hard, to get where they are today. they deserved every credit.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    Having not yet seen half of the nominated movies, I won't start making definite statements, but I'd like to point out that Lost in Translation is - in my opinion, of course - simply overhyped. Yes, it's a nice flick with a few charming scenes, but in the anals of moviemaking, there's dozens of those, often with better dialogue and deeper characters (see 'Being Earnest', for example).
    I can accept the 'Best Screenplay' award on the basis that Mrs. Coppola dared reviving a genre that hasn't really had a big hit since 'Pretty Woman' came and required all romances to be big and noisy, but further awards would just not have been appropriate.

    I for mine stand tightly behind RotK. This is doubtlessly influenced by my unbroken love to Tolkiens novels that lasts half my life by now, but I think Mr. Kurtz summed it all up rather eloquently:
    <img src='http://www.pvponline.com/archive/2003/pvp20031227.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    As for the ongoing Michael Moore debate, feel free to open a thread in Disc. I'm waiting over here, taking my gloves off.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Mar 1 2004, 02:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Mar 1 2004, 02:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Having not yet seen half of the nominated movies, I won't start making definite statements, but I'd like to point out that Lost in Translation is - in my opinion, of course - simply overhyped. Yes, it's a nice flick with a few charming scenes, but in the anals of moviemaking, there's dozens of those, often with better dialogue and deeper characters (see 'Being Earnest', for example).
    I can accept the 'Best Screenplay' award on the basis that Mrs. Coppola dared reviving a genre that hasn't really had a big hit since 'Pretty Woman' came and required all romances to be big and noisy, but further awards would just not have been appropriate.

    I for mine stand tightly behind RotK. This is doubtlessly influenced by my unbroken love to Tolkiens novels that lasts half my life by now, but I think Mr. Kurtz summed it all up rather eloquently:
    <img src='http://www.pvponline.com/archive/2003/pvp20031227.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    As for the ongoing Michael Moore debate, feel free to open a thread in Disc. I'm waiting over here, taking my gloves off. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Personally I hate method actors, I don't know why something about playing a prewritten character with emotional problems and extreme mood swings just doesn't seem that much of a challenge. Why you ask? Well from the average viewers standpoint seeing someone breakdown in tears on screen is moving, you say "Wow that's some good acting" but to someone who studies film (working on a film minor) the bluntness of method acting falls short of oscar worth imo.

    It is multiple times more difficult to give a convincing performance playing someone "normal". Why you ask again? Because we see normal people everyday, we know exactly how they act how they talk, how they move, and how they would react in certain situations. It is incredibly easy to forgot that actors play by script, and to portray a true essence of humanity and spotanaity on screen isn't something that should be overlooked.

    /rant

    As for Michael Moore there are already discussions floating around about the second amendment, his name pops up pretty often there.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Yeah, as poorly discussed example. I'd like to see what arguments aside from 'he doesn't bathe' are held against him <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    The only problem I've ever had with him is his unrealistic stance on gun control, and the only movie I've had a problem with that he's made is Bowling for Columbine, so I can't really take it outside of those realms.
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