<!--QuoteBegin-Bijiy+Mar 1 2004, 08:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Mar 1 2004, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They're actually quite easy to hold, takes a little getting used to but it works out in the long run. Plus a 50 round mag makes it all the better... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> just get a 40 round mp7 PDW
I like it. Looks like something that would go nice in the Spec Ops pack <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But the AWP-Style P90 is just <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-|Owen|+Mar 1 2004, 07:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Mar 1 2004, 07:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->give that a silencer, 10x scope with nv... put a rail sys on it, silver 5-7 bullets, lam, and a monkey grip in the butt... now that would be a gun<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> uh... no... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> I like it like it already is <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> (just had to think of that "knife of dewm" w/ silencer, LAM, and stuff <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
BadKarmaThe Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7Join Date: 2002-11-12Member: 8260Members
<!--QuoteBegin-Bijiy+Mar 1 2004, 03:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Mar 1 2004, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They're actually quite easy to hold, takes a little getting used to but it works out in the long run. Plus a 50 round mag makes it all the better... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> y'all sound experienced, i dont see how the magazine works either. forgive my ignorance, i havnt handled anything more modern than my enfeild.
The bullets are indeed stacked sidewards, or if you held the gun up on it's stock, with the barrel pointing up, the bullets are laying on their sides inside teh mag. At the back of the mag where it's round though, they rotate the right way to feed down. I'm sure Sheeny Yeeny can post a nice pic of a P-90 mag, Airsoft or Real. My friend has a vanilla P-90, so I know a bit about it's basic resembalance. Of course, Sheeny blows me out of the water... Oh, and just incase you didn't know Karma, since you said all you've worked with is your Enfield (Bolt-Action for Life!!!) the P-90 ejects bullets downwards too. The ejector port is on the bottom of the stock, directly below where the back circle end of teh mag is.
P-90's are actually very very comfratable to hold, with all the erogramaticness (sp?) and all. It tends to mold in your hands. But if your a big person, the shortness may throw you off as you have to hunch over. But my friend with the Airsoft one is a tall mofo and he manages. I actually like the first one in the second batch of pics Sheeny posted, with that free floating barrel comp thingy. *sniff* reminds me of the WA2000. And now I'm thinking it might have been Sheena who I got the site from a while back. A site with insane Japanese people doing what they do best. Modding anything to hell and back.
They took stuff like basic Airsoft M-4s, MP-5s and P-90s and added uber amounts of scopes, tac-lights, aimpoints, silencers, extended/dual/triple mags and what not. The best one I think... a P-90 was it? With the 1500 round M-16 High-Cap box mag, duals even I think, with a silencer, Nitro rail and like literally three scopes/aimpoints stacked one behind another. And a pistol attached on the nitro up front. It was HILARIOUS cause the couldn't would NOT be able to fire in that condition. All for show...
<img src='http://remtek.com/arms/fn/p90/mag/magazine.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> at the end of the magazine"tube" is a spiral that twists the round 90 degrees... its so easy...
in fact theres only 1 part that really moves... the <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=magazine&v=55">magazine</a> got no <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=moving&v=55">moving</a> parts... ( ok there are 2 or 3 more.. but they are not involved in the firing process) this are the main components of the p90... almost as easy as the steyr aug 77..
when there are some links apearing in my post dont click on them.. something on my system is changing all words in my browser into a link on some of this stupid crap search engines.. and i dont know how to remove this damn crap.. ive scanned my puter over and over again and cant find anything that causes this.. so dont klick on linked words or you get it too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
what means fangled? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
<!--QuoteBegin-Rover+Mar 2 2004, 03:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rover @ Mar 2 2004, 03:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The OICW will own you ALL, released in a few years...
<a href='http://world.guns.ru/assault/as40-e.htm' target='_blank'>Objective Individual Combat Weapon</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yea if they iron out all 100+ different issues with it.
That weapon breaks almost every requirment the US army has for better designs. its more expensive, its heavier, has additional logistics requirements (batteries), blablabla the army had a huge hiccup over its design last year when one of its engineers asked a weapons specialist what he thought of it.
He replied.. "How you you shoot it in the prone position?"
oops you cant, the desingers actualy stated that it was ment to be fired from the kneeling or standing position.
That debate is still going on.
This weapon for all its coolness may end up like the V22 Opsrey project desaster. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And its soo cool too. The German X series assault rifles are probably going to do alot better.
<!--QuoteBegin-|Owen|+Mar 1 2004, 02:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Mar 1 2004, 02:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bijiy+Mar 1 2004, 08:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Mar 1 2004, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They're actually quite easy to hold, takes a little getting used to but it works out in the long run. Plus a 50 round mag makes it all the better... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> just get a 40 round mp7 PDW <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But p90's look cooler...
<!--QuoteBegin-Rover+Mar 2 2004, 08:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rover @ Mar 2 2004, 08:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The OICW will own you ALL, released in a few years...
<a href='http://world.guns.ru/assault/as40-e.htm' target='_blank'>Objective Individual Combat Weapon</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> OICW is a nub weapon. xm-8 forever... wait, DAMMIT!
<!--QuoteBegin-Bijiy+Mar 2 2004, 09:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Mar 2 2004, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-|Owen|+Mar 1 2004, 02:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Mar 1 2004, 02:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bijiy+Mar 1 2004, 08:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Mar 1 2004, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They're actually quite easy to hold, takes a little getting used to but it works out in the long run. Plus a 50 round mag makes it all the better... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> just get a 40 round mp7 PDW <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> But p90's look cooler... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> you just sayin that cuz you dont own akimbo 6mm battery powed mp7's <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-|Owen|+Mar 2 2004, 02:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Mar 2 2004, 02:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bijiy+Mar 2 2004, 09:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Mar 2 2004, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-|Owen|+Mar 1 2004, 02:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Mar 1 2004, 02:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bijiy+Mar 1 2004, 08:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Mar 1 2004, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They're actually quite easy to hold, takes a little getting used to but it works out in the long run. Plus a 50 round mag makes it all the better... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> just get a 40 round mp7 PDW <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> But p90's look cooler... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> you just sayin that cuz you dont own akimbo 6mm battery powed mp7's <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, I'm saying that cause my cousin owns the TM p90, and I own their m-16a2...
BadKarmaThe Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7Join Date: 2002-11-12Member: 8260Members
Right, im wary of automatic weapons, I think having a flippin computer in your weapon is just asking for disaster. And fangled donst mean anything, its a slang type thing.
It's true that you can't fire the OICW's main weapon from the prone position (the grenades are in the big part <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> ), but you CAN fire the rifle underneath, ieven if you can't, you can just take it out and fire it anyway <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
THE OICW IS NOT A NOOB WEAPON BTW: it's just gonna be fun: You know a guy is behind a corner, you want him 2 die ( <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> ), you calculate the distance to the corner, set the nade to 1 meter more, and fire next 2 the wall:
Sad thing about P90 is that if you drop the gun, the ammo in the magazine shifts and you can't use the magazine anymore untill you take the bullets out and put them in order again.... This only happens if the magazine isn't full <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The P90 has always been my favourite modern gun. Someone should make a futuristic TSA P90 sometime <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--=[Drake]=-+Mar 3 2004, 02:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-=[Drake]=- @ Mar 3 2004, 02:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i woulnt mind seeing 1 of those P90s modeled
i really like the green 1 but remove the big rectangled silenicer (i think) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I like the P90 used in Stargate and CS most..
Knock off the Holosight, and I'd use it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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just get a 40 round mp7 PDW
Looks like something that would go nice in the Spec Ops pack <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But the AWP-Style P90 is just <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
uh... no... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> I like it like it already is <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
(just had to think of that "knife of dewm" w/ silencer, LAM, and stuff <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
y'all sound experienced, i dont see how the magazine works either. forgive my ignorance, i havnt handled anything more modern than my enfeild.
P-90's are actually very very comfratable to hold, with all the erogramaticness (sp?) and all. It tends to mold in your hands. But if your a big person, the shortness may throw you off as you have to hunch over. But my friend with the Airsoft one is a tall mofo and he manages. I actually like the first one in the second batch of pics Sheeny posted, with that free floating barrel comp thingy. *sniff* reminds me of the WA2000. And now I'm thinking it might have been Sheena who I got the site from a while back. A site with insane Japanese people doing what they do best. Modding anything to hell and back.
They took stuff like basic Airsoft M-4s, MP-5s and P-90s and added uber amounts of scopes, tac-lights, aimpoints, silencers, extended/dual/triple mags and what not. The best one I think... a P-90 was it? With the 1500 round M-16 High-Cap box mag, duals even I think, with a silencer, Nitro rail and like literally three scopes/aimpoints stacked one behind another. And a pistol attached on the nitro up front. It was HILARIOUS cause the couldn't would NOT be able to fire in that condition. All for show...
at the end of the magazine"tube" is a spiral that twists the round 90 degrees... its so easy...
in fact theres only 1 part that really moves... the <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=magazine&v=55">magazine</a> got no <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=moving&v=55">moving</a> parts... ( ok there are 2 or 3 more.. but they are not involved in the firing process) this are the main components of the p90... almost as easy as the steyr aug 77..
when there are some links apearing in my post dont click on them.. something on my system is changing all words in my browser into a link on some of this stupid crap search engines.. and i dont know how to remove this damn crap.. ive scanned my puter over and over again and cant find anything that causes this..
so dont klick on linked words or you get it too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i am a bad person >.<
Btw
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>MAKE</span></span>
<a href='http://world.guns.ru/assault/as40-e.htm' target='_blank'>Objective Individual Combat Weapon</a>
<a href='http://world.guns.ru/assault/as40-e.htm' target='_blank'>Objective Individual Combat Weapon</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
yea if they iron out all 100+ different issues with it.
That weapon breaks almost every requirment the US army has for better designs.
its more expensive, its heavier, has additional logistics requirements (batteries), blablabla the army had a huge hiccup over its design last year when one of its engineers asked a weapons specialist what he thought of it.
He replied.. "How you you shoot it in the prone position?"
oops you cant, the desingers actualy stated that it was ment to be fired from the kneeling or standing position.
That debate is still going on.
This weapon for all its coolness may end up like the V22 Opsrey project desaster.
<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And its soo cool too.
The German X series assault rifles are probably going to do alot better.
just get a 40 round mp7 PDW <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
But p90's look cooler...
<a href='http://world.guns.ru/assault/as40-e.htm' target='_blank'>Objective Individual Combat Weapon</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
OICW is a nub weapon. xm-8 forever... wait, DAMMIT!
just get a 40 round mp7 PDW <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But p90's look cooler... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
you just sayin that cuz you dont own akimbo 6mm battery powed mp7's <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
just get a 40 round mp7 PDW <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But p90's look cooler... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you just sayin that cuz you dont own akimbo 6mm battery powed mp7's <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, I'm saying that cause my cousin owns the TM p90, and I own their m-16a2...
THE OICW IS NOT A NOOB WEAPON BTW: it's just gonna be fun:
You know a guy is behind a corner, you want him 2 die ( <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> ), you calculate the distance to the corner, set the nade to 1 meter more, and fire next 2 the wall:
..............................|
..............................|
..............................|
............................X|
..................../\.....X|
....................#____|
....................#........
....................#........
....................?........
--> . = nothing, XX is enemy, /\ = the nade that explodes where is is _| is wall, ### is nade trail, ? = you
so what's noob outta advanced weaponry, you can also say rockets are noobish....if ya start like that, everything is.....
This only happens if the magazine isn't full <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i really like the green 1 but remove the big rectangled silenicer (i think)
i really like the green 1 but remove the big rectangled silenicer (i think) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I like the P90 used in Stargate and CS most..
Knock off the Holosight, and I'd use it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Best one so far...